LilaFowler

I would love to know what Paul Bernon's ex-wife thinks of Bethenny. I will be curious to see what their living arrangement turns out to be, since 'distance' was cited as the reason for their first breakup. Are Bethenny and Bryn moving to Boston? I would think Jason Hoppy would have a thing or two to say about that.

It's ugly and tacky. It suits her.

I can't wait for the Salem episodes. I love New England in the Autumn.

These moments are why they keep her around.

The first trashy reality show that Tinsley was on, High Society (2010), is on YouTube. I watched the first episode and had to laugh: one of her friends tells the camera that Tinsley is "self-absorbed and dresses like a teenager." She hasn't matured since her high school days and at 45, she looks ridiculous. I predict that she, Dabney and Dale are eventually going to languish in a dilapidated condo in Palm Beach, moaning about how they used to be elite-adjacent.

The ring Bill picked was ugly.

Welp. Who didn't see this coming? We all knew he'd never marry her. I don't want her back on NY unless she is really and truly finished talking to/about Scott. The whole thing has reached new lows of pathetic.

As will I. Someone disagreeing with your POV is not some sort of personal attack or something. It's not that serious. I was just stating my opinion. How some of these broke individuals get approved to do this will forever be a mystery to me.

As far as I'm concerned, Brandon's mother doesn't need to justify anything or explain why she wants them in separate bedrooms. It's her house. They don't like it? Leave. Brandon is a 27-year-old man, he should get off the parental tit and find his own place.

Is she going to make him get rid of Kitty also?

FIGURES. They're saving Natalie's reaction to Sequim for the very end. Can't wait to see Julia's reaction to the farm.

You're telling me that this beautiful French girl can't do any better than this American weirdo? Are things really that bleak out there?

Did Heather tell us if she and her ex-husband got unsealed when they got divorced?

Whitney's husband (Justin?) is a fat, ugly slob. Less of him, please. Will never get over him fucking a teenage employee and knocking her up, then leaving his family for her. Yeah, I'll bet his relationship with his kids is "strained." I'd want nothing to do with him if he were my father.

It's so strange that Jonathan put the hammer in the outdoor fireplace. Considering that the property was where he was hiding out, you'd think the police would have obtained a warrant to search it. You'd think Jonathan would have assumed that, too. Why did he hang onto it and leave it where someone would eventually find it? Very dumb and he's not supposed to be a dumb person. Was Haley unaware of the 911 call? That alone would have been a reason to keep her off the stand. I am not smart enough to comprehend why whatever Jonathan's mother said to Grace on a skype call didn't qualify as hearsay. The finale was okay, minus the extravagantly wealthy grandfather and his helicopter literally flying in to save the day. How ridiculous and melodramatic. I'd rate the whole series an A- or so. I would recommend it but wouldn't re-watch it or anything. Now I understand why the showrunner was throwing cold water on the idea of a second season. What would be the plot?

Two yields and a bad cab. The alliance really sucks and has killed the spirit of the show for me.

We haven't been told: where or how Jonathon spent those three months while he was pretending to be at work exactly what he spent $500k of Franklin's money on, even though he continued to drain his joint accounts with Grace what his plans were while he was pretending to be in Cleveland at a fake conference what he and Elena fought about the night of her murder If the police work is to be believed (which is questionable), then the killer would appear on a surveillance video: Grace or Jonathan. The killer would also have the right access to hide the murder weapon: Grace, Jonathan, Henry, or Franklin. The killer's DNA would be at the scene of the crime: Fernando (footprint) or Jonathan. The show is doing a lot to make us think it could be someone else but I think in the end it will be Jonathan. He is the one with means, motive, opportunity... maybe Elena wanted him to leave Grace and that's what they fought about. Maybe he refused and she informed him that she was going to reveal all his secrets, which would blow up his life. He kills her, the end. He didn't feel bad about his sister and he doesn't really feel bad about Elena either.

Shades of the OJ Simpson trial here, painting the NYPD as having an agenda and being incompetent. Then you have the lead detective lying under cross examination (why did he do that?). I'm unimpressed with the prosecutor's performance in this trial so far. Was she unaware of Grace's stroll through Harlem on the night of the murder? The whole thing is so bizarre. I've watched a lot of Law & Order: Jack McCoy would never. Grace pointedly ignoring Franklin's question about whether or not trauma like that would make someone more compassionate or more psychotic. Henry certainly looks the murderer now, hiding the murder weapon. Nothing has been straightforward in this series so I'm expecting something else to be revealed next week.

I think the whole dog thing was yet another lie in Jonathan's life. There probably was no dog, ever at any point. Perhaps Grace wanted one at some point and instead of just saying no, he concocted this traumatic story so she would never broach the issue again. Jonathan looked his kid in the eye and lied about an allergy. He pretended to go to work every day for months. He was having an affair and had a kid out of wedlock. He is a crazy, pathological liar, nothing more. When he told the lawyer that his family had neither the funds nor the inclination to help him with bail, I called BS on that, too. They are probably rich and wondering where the hell he is. I don't think he's ever told the truth and Grace barely knows who he really is.

More from the trailer:

There's another quick shot in the trailer

I think that Jonathan could still be the killer, even though I've written lengthy posts describing why I think it's someone else. To my recollection, the basic premise of the book was Grace coming to terms with the realities of her life and marriage. In the end, she gives a letter containing his general whereabouts to the authorities. (Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.) In the series, we still don't know where the murder weapon is. Could be that she finds it and that's the stand-in for the condemning letter here.

Fernando's behavior has never made sense to me, not at any point. He doesn't seem to be all that upset that his wife was murdered. He allows the man who is accused of the crime to come into his home and hold a helpless baby, when he should really be on the phone to 911. Does he ever ask him, 'hey, why'd you kill my wife?' Instead he just hands him the child and shares his true feelings. What is the explanation here? It seems like he knows for a fact that Jonathan didn't kill Elena.

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Also, where was Jonathan spending his days when he was pretending to be at work?