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'Off the rails' is accurate--I can see why this never made it into Tom Hanks's filmography.

Prepping to flee?

Oscar would take the fall for his own father (Mr. Torres, the super), I would think. Maybe his dad already had a criminal record and even if Zoe's death was an accident, he couldn't risk losing his job or going to jail. Do we know for a fact that Oscar went to prison for 10 years because of Zoe's death or something else? I may need to re-watch because it seems a bit vague. Do the residents still not know about the Hardy Boys robberies? It seems like some people know about these "bad news" kids (Oliver's son) but others seem to be totally clueless (Charles, Oliver). You'd think that a series of break-ins, robberies, and a young resident falling to her death in the building would be major news, news that Charles and Oliver wouldn't miss regardless of what they may have been going through at the time. Maybe the Hardy Boys shenanigans are still largely a secret? Zoe's parents owned the entire 11th floor, too. There is no way her death wouldn't be a huge deal in the Arconia. I posted this in the E04 thread, but Mabel's (current, dilapidated) apartment is 12E. This is the apartment that she claims her aunt (Salma Ramirez) owns and that she is renovating for her. However, in Mabel's own flashback to meeting Tim Kono, Tim says that he knows her aunt: she gives out full-sized candy bars at Halloween and lives in 12A. On Charles's Possible Suspects whiteboard, the current occupant of 12A is Bunny Folger. The diamond ring ended up in her apartment instead of Tim Kono's. When Charles and Mabel broke into Bunny's apartment to retrieve the ring, at no point did Mabel mention that she was familiar with the place because her aunt used to live there. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe Aunt Salma sold 12A and bought 12E. The show makes a point of telling or showing us who is in which apartments, though. It seems like it's a clue to ...something. We actually don't know very much at all about Mabel Mora. What does she do for money? What has she been doing for the last 10 years? She claims to be renovating 12E but what actual evidence is there of that? She seems to be squatting there more than anything. Where is her aunt and/or the rest of her family? Mabel is an unreliable narrator, not sure that I trust anything that she's said or shown us.

That photo in the first post says that Bunny Folger lives in Apartment 12A. That used to be Mabel's Aunt's apartment (in the Episode 2 flashback at the fountain, 10-year-old Tim Kono says that the Ramirez aunt lives in 12A). That is also where the package with the diamond ring ended up at first, instead of going to Tim.

I am really enjoying this show, especially Martin Short and Steve Martin. Steve Martin was especially hilarious in the cat lover's apartment scene. Gomez leaves a lot to be desired. Is there something wrong with her jaw? She barely opens her mouth when she speaks and it's distracting. Since we don't have a speculation thread, I'll put mine under a spoiler tag:

E10 is the new all-time low.

S13E09: 0.856 million viewers (0.25 18-19 demo) S13E10: 0.717 million viewers (0.19 18-49 demo)

I enjoyed the movies and I hope we get more. I saw a blurb that the director wants to make a movie about one of the old Shadyside serial killers from the 50s but I would like to move forward in the story, not back. Widow Mary had the Devil's book in 1666, was she using it herself? There's no way that the rest of the Goode family didn't know about the pact. Sarah Fier being a victim of a crime (who wants to show you the truth) felt like an homage to The Ring's Samara.

All I can say is, there is no one in this cast that I would bring back for another season. I was watching for Salem pr0n but I barely got any of that. I'm out again! (Thank God for Potomac)

Re the rhyme: yeah, I totally think that Sarah Fier Who moved Fier's body and put the stone there? Ziggy bled on the bones, was killed and then revived, but did not turn into a serial killer. Why is Sam a foaming-at-the-mouth killer when she had the same experience? I preferred the second movie to the first, even though it was not scary whatsoever. In fact, I even shed a few tears at the end . I can't wait for the third movie. I know it's not terribly important but

He has been charged with rape in California. https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/09/marry-millions-star-bill-hutchinson-charged-raping-unconscious-teen-orange-county/

Why are kids hanging out in his house? Perv.

S13E01: 0.959 million viewers (0.28 18-49 demo) S13E02: 0.871 million viewers (0.26 18-49 demo) S13E03: 0.822 million viewers (0.22 18-49 demo) S13E04: 0.836 million viewers (0.28 18-49 demo) S13E05: 0.881 million viewers (0.26 18-49 demo) S13E06: 0.878 million viewers (0.24 18-49 demo) S13E07: 0.866 million viewers (0.25 18-49 demo) S13E08: 0.764 million viewers (0.22 18-49 demo) Sinking and sinking fast... I remember the days when this show would easily clear 1 million+ every week. Soon it will have RHOD numbers.

After skipping the last few episodes (I know I didn't miss a damn thing), I decided to watch this for the possibility of some interesting New England travel porn. I should've known better. Of course they sat around and argued. Leah telling Ramona that she's what's wrong with the country was a real low point for her, and that's really saying something. Eboni demanding to know if the others were "aligned with white supremacy"... we all know she's not abandoning her Bravo paycheck, so what would she even do about it if someone were? This person worked for that network and took paychecks from that billionaire. Give me a f*cking break, get off the cross. She and Leah have managed to ruin this show. I like Bershaun so far. Leah, Eboni and Sonja need to exit stage left next season IMO.

The View has an opening. Eboni, that's your cue. I'm of the mind that she's using this show as a stepping stone anyway.

Curious as to why they haven't touched on who the father of Brooke's son is. Don't both biological parents have to relinquish parental rights in an adoption? Was the father simply not told about the baby? It seems like it was a legal adoption, not some black market thing.

Oh, so that's why Eboni has decided that she loves Sonja so much -- they're both shit-stirrers.

Heather's not a Karen.

Last season, it was the drinking that Leah blamed for her obnoxious behavior. This year, it's her grandma dying. I don't actually give a shit what is bothering her right now, she's ruining the show.

Eboni trying to make Sonja her pet. Can't wait until she realizes that Sonja is a loud, belligerent, delusional drunk.

I only want to watch this show for fun trips and luxury real estate. It's been one dumb fight after another.

This movie held my attention more than most of the recent Lifetime offerings but ended so abruptly. I guess they couldn't figure out how to end it but

I have no idea why they bothered to bring this show back just to be this terrible. It is truly god-awful.

Well, that was a boring episode.

Eboni's "ROLL THE TAPE BACK!!" was shades of Shannon Beador, Season 1! "YOU WILL ALL SEE THE TRUTH!!"