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Milestone Moments: All The Celebrity Vitals
CountryGirl replied to OtterMommy's topic in Everything Else TV
RIP, Richard. He was, indeed, the King of the Miniseries, in the all the very best ways where his presence alone made it worth the watch. My pre-teen heart (I saw him first in The Thorn Birds) is broken. My mom's is as well as she watched him from his Dr. Kildare days on. I despised Father Ralph de Bricassart in the book but Richard changed my mind. It likely had something to do with this scene: It's a scene that will be forever seared in my memory and remains my standard for finding a partner: find the one who looks at you like Ralph looks at Meggie coming down the stairs in her Ashes of Roses gown.- 4.2k replies
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I tuned in and watched an entire episode for the first time in I cannot say how long and it was one for the ages and definitely recap-worthy. I will dispense with the Beige and Slattern love fest and celebration of once again, triumphing over the Logans. Toasting with root beer floats, in keeping with their lameness, and Stephanie Douglas Forrester would never. Enjoy your hollowest of victories because I know it will only be a matter of time before the karma bus driven by Luna comes to make tracks over both these basic bitches. There is a reason she is Finn's daughter and Sheila's granddaughter and there is no way show doesn't capitalize on that. We also know that Slattern's proclamation that her mother and Fridge "are back together...FOREVER..." just sounded the death knell because we the second Beige does something Fridge doesn't like (hard to fathom with her kissing his grubby toes) or, more likely, the second he senses another man breathing so much as the same air as Brooke, it will be "Beige who?" So enjoy that dance party, which is the epitome of fremdschämen. There's also a scene where Donna is pulled out of the mothballs where she's been hidden, apparently, to get an update on the latest happenings from Katie. Donna makes the comment that "Logan women stick together." Do they, though? I mean, what with Brooke getting involved with Eric, her mother's first love? Or Brooke sleeping with Deacon, daughter Bridget's then-husband? Or Katie sleeping with Nick, daughter Bridget's then-husband? Or Brooke sleeping with Bill, sister Katie's then-husband? Or Brooke putting her kids last where a man, especially Fridge, was/is concerned? About that... Hope has arrived at Brooke's and is livid, slamming the door behind her. As she should be. It is one thing for Carter to fuck her over. But her own mother? Oh, wait, this is Brooke (whom I've almost always defended but will call out over the years as I see fit) and this is one of the times when she needs all her shit laid bare. Hope: "How could you DO this to me? My own MOTHER?" Brooke does her patented squint, firing back: "How could I do this to YOU?" She whines that Hope should have never done what she did and AGAIN, for the people on a deserted island, IT WAS CARTER'S IDEA, ALL OF IT, THE PAPERS, THE PLAN, ALLLLLLLL OFFFF ITTTTT! Brooke makes me want to vomit when she cries, "I lost the love of my life because of it." That that slobby, grubby, thoughtless, faithless, worthless excuse for a man is the love of her life is so pathetic I could laugh. But she didn't lose Fridge because of Hope. She lost Fridge...because of Fridge. He had his feefees hurt, so he did what he always did, run straight to Beige. Hope: "All I ever tried to do was stand up for what is right and defend our family name." Hope, honey, Brooke could not care less about the Logan name. Brooke: "I never wanted you to take over the company!" Hope reminds her: "We were successful and we made YOU CEO because I thought YOU were on board with it." Ms. Liar Liar Panties On Fire screeches: "I did it for Ridge! I took the CEO position to get the company back for Ridge!" I would have slapped her right then but Hope has more restraint than I do. Hope is disgusted, saying "I can't believe that you took the CEO position for Ridge and were never on my side." She reminds her mother of the names Slattern and her cronies called her, "bitch" and "slut" come to mind, and that once again, her mother chose these terrible, terrible people over her own daughter. Even if I can concede that Carter was wrong in how he went about what he did and Hope should have known better than to egg him on, she's not wrong here. Brooke: "I just wanted to get the company back for Ridge!" We know so STFU about Fridge already. Hope: "You sold out your OWN daughter. You cannot DEFEND that to ME!" Tell her, Hope! This has been a long time coming. Brooke resumes her squint: "You can't defend what you did either. Ridge left me because of it, Hope. I lost him!" You lost about 260lbs of worthless garbage, Brooke. No big loss. Hope mocks her mother here, snarking: "That's the only thing that matters to you, isn't it? Ridge." Yup. Hope: "Not that your daughter lost her career, her love, and her family. The changes we implemented, they were working, but none of that matters..." and Annika, who has been on simmer this entire episode, explodes into a full-boil as she sneers: "Because you lost your Ridge." Hope falters for a moment, hating this, hating attacking the mother she loves so much, the mother she's always defended, but again, this moment has been years in the making. Hope: "Why are you never there when I need you most?" Her voice breaks here as she admits: "For once, I just wanted you to pick...me." But Hope isn't a man with a certain male appendage so she's Brooke's priority almost never. Same with Rick. Same with Bridget. Brooke is indignant: "I've been supporting you. You're my daughter and I love you." She has a real funny way of showing said love and support. Hope snaps at this: "Just not as much as YOU love RIDGE!" She shakes her head, "That's it! You just continue to demean yourself over that man." She glares at her mother, the mocking tone that Brooke sorely deserves back in her voice, asking "So where is he? Oh...that's right...he's with Taylor." She gives her mother a long look, the barb finding impact. "How many times are you going to allow THAT man to make a fool of you?" At least one hundred more, Hope. You know it, she knows it, Fridge knows it. Of course, Gladys, ahem, Katie, has to enter the house and goes into insta-protect mode with Brooke and why? Brooke has fucked you over, too. She warns Hope: "Don't you dare talk to your mother like that!" The door gets slammed again but seriously, Katie, Brooke has gotten off pretty scot-free where Hope is concerned. Rick and Bridget, too. Katie: "I won't let you berate my sister. She did what she thought was right." Um, Katie, you should have stopped by sooner when you could have heard Brooke say she did it all for Fridge and she didn't give a bluedilly fuck whether it was right or not. The truth that Katie has been in on Brooke's fake CEO plot dawns on Hope as she exclaims: “My own family made a fool of me. Well, I really have lost everything, haven’t I? Even my own mother.” Sad to say, I'm not sure she ever really had Brooke to begin with. How many times did Brooke let her children down to go after her "destiny?" Again, too many to count. Hope shakes her head, saying: "There’s no one I can trust." True statement, that. Katie: "We're Logan women" and forgive Hope and me, Katie, but it doesn't feel like Logans Against The World right now. Hope: "I don't want to hear about it. I'm not really a Logan anyway. I only have that last name because my mother was too ashamed to give me my father's name." Brooke is unmoved at this and how you can turn a blind eye to your own child who is pain and much of that of your making is beyond me. She doesn't even flinch. Hope steps closer to Brooke: “Isn’t that right, mom? Your little mistake?” Katie: "You need to stop before you say something you'll regret and can’t take back." Why should Hope have to regret anything? Her mother certainly forgets her transgressions even though I won't go so far as to say Brooke hasn't paid for those. She has, in spades, unlike a certain lame root-beer drinking duo. But she clearly has learned nothing. Katie continues to defend Brooke and again, why? This is why Bridget needs to be on canvas. She, better than anyone, knows the mess that is her and Hope's mother and would, I wager, defend her sister. Katie: "Your mother has always been there for you." When? When she had a free moment from kissing Fridge's greasy behind? When she was dumped and lonely and remember her kids do exist? Hope: "She wasn’t there for me today… she was standing beside my supposed love and champion, Carter, while Steffy humiliated me again. She didn’t walk out with me in solidarity. She would rather watch Steffy win because she wants to try and get back with Ridge." Brooke should feel ashamed of herself, but I'm sure she'll sleep soundly tonight. Hope, pure fire now, spits: “You abandoned me when I needed you the most. I wonder if you begged, cried, and groveled at Ridge's feet this time?" Why would it be any different this time, Hope? She reminds her mother of all of the times she literally picked her mother up off the floor, something no child should ever have to do, all so she could chase her destiny...and fail. She erupts in hurt and frustration: “I hope it was worth it!” Brooke, sounding oh-so-superior for someone who has rarely held the moral high ground: "Hope, you’ll never understand what me and Ridge have." Hope can't resist, sneering: "Had." She lets that dig sink in. "He doesn’t want you anymore. When are you going to get that?” Hope shakes her head again: "My mother would rather betray her own daughter for a man that drops her at the slightest inconvenience. How is that love?!” It's not. It's sick. But that's Brooke and Fridge in a nutshell. Katie: "Stop." Butt out, Katie. Brooke mews that "I told him I love him and want him back. But he wouldn’t listen to me and said he wanted to stay with Taylor." DUH!!!! She throws the tiniest sliver of bones to Hope, saying: “And you know what? Steffy could have done things differently." Ya think? "She was wrong. But you were wrong, too, Hope. You never should have taken over the company with Carter. And until you take responsibility for your actions, I have no sympathy for you whatsoever!” Wow. Just wow. Brooke is on her high horse now, insisting that "I won’t be spoken to this way. You will not attack me in my house." I wouldn't call truth-telling an attack, but whatevs, Brooke. "Do you understand that? Not in my home!” Hope pales, asking, “What are you saying, Mom? Are you kicking me out?” This, right here, reeks of manipulation and abuse, and it's awful to watch. Hope is gutted as she says: “I’m no longer welcome in your home. Is that what you’re saying?” Katie, trying to intervene as things have gone too far, but again, all of this (waves hands) has been in the making for years, says" I'm sure that's not what she means." Hope fire backs: "It's EXACTLY what she means." She surmises that Brooke will probably run and tell Ridge she got rid of her to try and get him back. Brooke tries to defend her pitiful actions, reminding her that she told Ridge to leave because of her (Hope) before. Hope is having none of this: "He called me a whore and a bitch and YOU took HIS side!" Any man who calls his partner's child such names or treats them like trash should have a boot in their ass and be out the door. Katie tries again to intervene. “Stop! This is going to end!” Hope asks, angrily but also sadly, when this cycle will ever end. “Of her constantly choosing the Forresters and their disrespect over her own family’s love.” Katie, ridiculously, says "I know you had a bad day." A bad day, Katie? A bad day? My goodness, she is delusional. Not as delusional as her eldest sister but pretty close. She adds, unhelpfully, “But you did something wrong, and you have to own it! Carter sees it!” Carter is a spineless wimp who doesn't know what to do with himself unless he's kowtowing to bestie Ridge (what a joke) with his tail between his legs. But seriously, time and place, Katie. Time and place. Hope screams out that she doesn’t want to hear about Carter, shouting: “I sacrificed EVERYTHING for HIS vision, and I took the fall... for HIM!” Brooke whines that Carter couldn’t even live with himself. Well-boo-fucking-hoo for Carter. She doesn't understand how Hope can't see that. Hope: "He turned his back on me....just like my mother." Brooke is all "I told you so" and Hope could have been 100% in the right, but if it impacted Brooke's relationship with her man-child, Brooke would still take his side. In fact, her previous nasty comments were just a prelude as now she starts blathering on how "I won’t allow you to blame me for your mistakes. This was your choice, and you messed up. Just like you’ve messed up so many times in your life." My jaw is on the FLOOR, people. For Brooke, of all people, to say THIS, to her own flesh and blood? The daughter who has always stood by her, no matter what? Brooke, whom I seriously want to kick in the crotch right now, continues: "Your marriage to Liam. Your relationship with Thomas, with Douglas. And now this, are you serious, Hope?! This coup with Carter?!” Is she for freaking real here? Liam cheated with Slattern (the woman he always cheated with when Hope breathed the wrong way), resulting in WTD #2 for Slattern. And since when does Brooke GAF about Thomas? He was pushing marriage when Hope had just broken free from her marriage to Liam and was enjoying herself for the first time in years. And to bring up Douglas? The child she adopted and loves as her own? She has found every weapon in her arsenal and has fired it at her daughter and it is truly devastating and terrible to watch. No mother who loves her child could be capable of such rage and hatred. She's far from finished as she spits, red-faced: "You say you lost everything in your life, well, I lost something, too. I lost Ridge, and it’s all because of you! I blame you! Who are you? You are not my daughter! Get out! Get out of my house!” Mark today down, folks. Brooke is dead to me. Dead. I will never root for Beige and Slattern against her but I am done with caring about her. She's gone too far this time, visibly breaking her daughter's heart, crushing her spirit, and all for worthless Fridge. I don't know how she comes back from this. Hope pulls back her arm to slap Brooke and I know what it cost her to do that. To go against every instinct to raise her hand to her mother, whom she loves, no matter that she treats her like trash. Katie stops her: "No, don't! Don't Hope, don't!" Hope, realizing what she almost did, literally breaks apart in front of my eyes and is full-on sobbing as Katie says, gently, "This is not who you are, honey." Those words register, penetrate, in a way nothing else can, and Hope is wrecked to her core. When it should be Brooke sobbing and begging forgiveness, it's Hope and guys, this was painful to watch and I'm tearing up even now, just thinking about it. Hope: "“I’m sorry, Mom. I’m sorry, I love you. I’ve lost everything. I’m sorry. I’m sorry, Mommy. I love you.” Mommy...I'm a puddle, all. Brooke, finally remembering that Hope is her daughter, pulls Hope into her arms. Or maybe it's because Hope is being the good, obedient, remorseful daughter. It's as chilling to watch as it is heartbreaking as this is Abuse 101. Hope, clinging and crying, at the hands of the one person who is supposed to love her and protect her above all others... It's an episode for the ages even if it was so very hard to watch...and recap. Annika, you deserve that long-overdue Emmy. Katherine and Heather were masterful as well. Bravo!
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If ever a character has been in need of a comeuppance, it's Principessa Stuffy. That handful of days of being A Bitch In A Box weren't nearly enough. Dare we hope the diabolical dynamic due of Sheiluna have some plans for the most entitled character I have ever seen in all of my years of watching soaps.
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It was quite a rollercoaster but far more entertaining than Carter handing his balls over to Stuffy (how she has room for them in her handbag with Finn's and Liam's and likely Bill's (since he insta-threw Luna out when Stuffy pitched a fit) jiggling around in there, I'll never know. Although that kiss? Wow. But the creepy music as they embraced was chef's kiss. Luna didn't know what to think. I'm guessing Sheila is going to offer up Casa Sharpe to her little grandmoster.
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Steffy acting like she is in the right when she killed Ally - some might call it self-defense or justifiable homicide (I don't) but she still killed her own cousin. She almost killed another cousin, Ivy, by electrocution and all so Ivy wouldn't out her very significant part in Ally's death and the cover up that followed. She also shot an unarmed Sheila back in 2017 when Sheila was comforting Eric, who had learned of the Quidge affair. Eric, Liam, and Sheila, of all people, covered for her that time. So she killed one person and attempted to kill two others. Yet we're supposed to believe she is afraid of Luna? Taylor killed Darla, Ally's mother, because she couldn't have cared less about the risk she posed to human life when she chose to get behind the wheel of a car and drive drunk. And I can never forget that this was not the first time Taylor drove drunk, putting who knows how many lives in danger. This was just the first time she ended the life of a beloved wife and mother who was helping her niece, Taylor's own daughter. She also nearly killed Bill by shooting him in the back in cold blood with her golden gun. And threatened to shoot him AGAIN. All because she thought he raped or somehow compromised her precious slattern of a daughter when instead, Steffy rode that Stallion like it was her last night on earth. I am not, in anyway, justifying what Luna did to Tom and Hollis. But (and stating the obvious), it's a show. Reel life, not real life. Second, given how absolutely vile Steffy and Taylor are, especially the stench of hypocrisy and entitlement that just emanates from them, I'm Team Luna. Lastly, and most importantly, when Steffy and Taylor pay for their crimes, then I'll entertain Luna paying for hers. Both of them can touch grass as neither of them have a leg to stand on when it comes to the body count department. I'm actually looking forward to Sheila swooping in to protect her granddaughter, the Sinn marriage imploding, and the slightest possibility of a Brooke/Deacon reunion (and yes, Deacon needs to worry about how his daughter is being treated vs the Poppy/Luna nonsense).
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Don't forget about her banging Ridge's stepbrother aka Ridge's dad's other son, Rick. She also slept Rick's uncle, Storm, and grandaddy, Stephen Steffy slept with Rick, too, who was her stepbrother and stepuncle. Sooo... You know TPTB lurk here between the hot dog and letting Liam get called out as being a waffle.
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Whelp, they've managed to make the twist of Finn being Luna's father, something I, along with many others saw coming months ago, into a dud. What does it say when my only comment when filing watching Finn tell Luna he was her dad, was wow, Finn's channeling Captain Kirk in the wardrobe department today. Yes, Finn's shirt is more beige (hey, maybe he's been raiding Beige's closet), but close enough. And goodness knows, we need someone, anyone to beam us up from this wretched show.
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We can only hope.
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I actually love the new commercial with Tanner being in on the joke.
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Little House On The Prairie - General Discussion
CountryGirl replied to spidermiss2426's topic in Little House On The Prairie
Sweet Sixteen is also troublesome for Ma telling Pa that she just couldn't wait to call him Grandpa. And he replies, "Same to you...Grandma!" and they laugh hysterically. When Adam Holbrook Barbecue Kendall Jr had literally perished in episode 19 and Sweet Sixteen was episode 22. Three episodes prior, folks.