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Chrissy: "I'm the one who called...on the telephone" Man: "That's usually how it's done"

Who just loved Janet? I grew up a short brunette about 8 miles from Joyce DeWitt's hometown of Speedway, Indiana, so I was very familiar with her. My grandpa worked with her dad at the local factory. She was smart, professional and beautiful, exactly what I wanted to be, but, with my plain looks, was never convinced I would be. My favorite episodes were always the ones where Janet learns that she is valued, despite her not being tall or buxom. Did anyone not fall in love with Jack when he danced with Janet at the end of the episode where Michael Bell the dance instructor dumped her?

Young me found Lana completely useless; old me hasn't changed. Unfortunate because Ann Wedgeworth is not a bad actress at all. I loved her as Dan Conner's uncrazy mom on "Roseanne"

Unfortunately, a lot of reality show participants are aspiring actors or actresses. Back in the day, it was game shows that actors went on when they were trying to hit it big. Not to say that everyone who appears on a reality show, or even a game show, is trying to break into show businesses, but quite a few of them are.

I'm thinking the name is a British thing. In the US, Hank tends to be a nickname for Henry, not Harry or Hal. Harry and Hal tend to be nicknames for someone named Harold. Not that Harold is a very common name here anymore. That being said, I'm not a royal follower much myself, but I know Harry's birth name is Henry and that they just call him Harry. I don't like the premise. They are trying to deceive the women into thinking he's the Prince Harry. They are doing it, in part, based upon their likely ignorance of the details: not knowing that Tower Bridge is not London Bridge, not recognizing the differences in styles & titles, etc, dancing around Matt's identity by sticking photos with William in them around. For that, I feel sympathy for the women. There's a concerted effort to deceive them, playing on understandable ignorance. Plenty of people don't know the proper name for the bridge, for example. I only found out recently and I'm no history slouch. But my sympathy only goes so far. We've all discussed that the premise of the show should be a red flag for any contestant. There is no way even Prince Harry, with his reputation, would be allowed to choose his wife based on a reality show contest. Even those of us who don't keep up with his comings and goings know that. So, there's some kind of suspension of disbelief going on here. More of the women must know he's not the real prince and are keeping their suspicions to themselves, because, in the end, it's about the notoriety, the money, the fame of being on television, than it is about who gets married. As stated in above posts, they must be eliminating the women who don't play their cards close to their sleeves.

BollywoodLover, there are gay people who don't believe in gay marriage. There are black people who don't support Affirmative Action. There are women who don't support the ERA. The great thing about this country is that there are lots of different kinds of people, each with their own beliefs that are allowed to be independent of everyone else's...even people who share their race or gender identification. This means that the Duggar aunt could very well be gay and personally believe that getting married is wrong. Joshua may not have been making that up.

The girls don't know any other way. All the families they've been allowed to associate with do it the same way. To them, it's normal. Remember that episode of "The Simpsons" where Apu is trying to look patriotic so he changes the octuplets' names to Lincoln, Freedom, Condoleezza, Coke, Pepsi, Manifest Destiny, Apple Pie, and Superman? That's what popped in my head with all these name posts!

I remember Helena Bonham Carter in "The King's Speech" as Elizabeth Bowles-Lyon explaining to Logue's wife how she's addressed by title the first time, then "ma'am" after that. But, then again, it's a movie...

Fans of "Little House on the Prairie" will recognize Kevin Hagen (Doctor Baker) in season 1's "Elegy" and in season 5's "You Drive". Dabbs Greer, also known as Reverend Alden, played in season 3's "Hocus Pocus and Frisby" and season four's "Valley of the Shadow".

"The Sixteen-Millimeter Shrine" has a great opening narration. Only Serling could write, "struck down by hit-and-run years, lying on the pavement, trying desperately to get the license number of fleeting fame"

To prove to my family that getting my hair caught in a mixer when I was 12 years old does not mean that they should avoid every single thing I cook.

I agree there. It's unfair to expect people to know all of your personal tastes and cater to them. If you're judging a cooking show, you should expect that you might get something with an ingredient you happen to dislike. On the other hand, I've little patience for those appearing on "Chopped" now who fail to prepare ahead of time. Common sense would prompt a would-be contestant to watch enough previous episodes to get an idea of what the judges do and do not like. Scott is pretty consistent with not liking raw red onions, as well as being particularly critical of poorly-done pasta. Aaron likes his heat. Amanda likes her boldness. Alex likes her acid. Geoffrey's gotten better about spice...a little bit. Marc Murphy likes his meat n' potatoes. Marcus Samuelsson...doesn't like anything, from what I can gather.

Chef Kent was wonderful. If I wasn't already married, his purty wife, Shannon, would have some serious competition. I finally caught the Tryg episode....ugh! Oh, and Cara winning her redemption episode was sad, sad, sad. I was seriously yelling at her competitor, "Don't you DARE fall for the grits bait!" and she did it, anyway. I was so unhappy to see Lauren back so soon after she dissed her competitor on her original appearance that I laughed when she started chopping raw red onions with Scott Conant on the panel. Thankfully, I was able to see a marathon with Madison in it and I just loved him so much. I can finally see why his fans like him so much.

Thank you! It is so confusing the way they air episodes that I never know if the episode I'm watching is from the current season or a new episode I've not seen.

Caught the rerun of the first episode and got about 20 minutes into it before changing the channel to something more credible... I agree that there has to be some really deep suspension of disbelief here or those girls know exactly what's going on. I cannot imagine finding a bunch of women who would believe that the royal family would allow the real Prince Harry to choose his bride based on a reality show contest. And, I may have missed this, but, do they have access to news and television over there? Because, even if only one of those women believe he is really Harry, it would only take her seeing a newspaper article about Harry heading overseas or a television blurb about him being completely someplace else the day Matt was wooing her and the charade would be over.

You know, you make an interesting point here. I read an article on...some...website that I can no longer find now recently about husbands who felt pressure by their wives to be a part of the patriarchy movement. They weren't comfortable with the gender role assignment, but, it was as if their wives were the ones who were sold on it. Some of what's been said about Jim Bob makes me wonder if a bunch of this is just Michelle or stemming from her own anxiety about her growing up years. I'm not saying all of it is her, but could she be the driving force behind it?

In many ways, it's not Jessa's decision either, unfortunately. If they want to hold off on sex before marriage, I'm all for that. But there's nothing wrong with a private conversation here or there.

I think it's too early to tell for sure, but, for now, I have to agree with wanderwoman here. Yes, it is true that young marriages can work, but they tend to be exceptions to the rule, not the rule itself. Ben & Jessa's marriage may be long and happy (and I hope it is), but it's also possible they may stay together unhappily since divorce isn't an option in their worldview. I kind of liken it to war marriages. For every person who has a story about how their grandparents met while grandpa was on shore leave in 1944 and were married for 60 years, there are tons of other stories about shore leave marriages that lasted only until the guy returned from war and they actually had to live together. Even sadder are the unhappy marriages like that which did last 60 years since divorce was frowned upon (especially for women) for two to three decades after WWII. So, while there can be quickie wartime marriages that work and work well, the general rule is that it's not a good idea to jump into marriage with someone you just met. For the same reason, it's not a good idea to marry someone who is only 18 years old. Since Jessa is a few years older, there is also an issue of maturity. Girls tend to mature earlier than boys anyway, so you have the added difference of Jessa spending much of her life working hard at home while it appears that Ben was somewhat of a indulged son/brother. On the other hand, Jessa's restrictive upbringing could make up the difference in maturity. Then again, it's possible that, at least, the financial struggles that young marrieds often face may not be an issue for them. With little to no higher education, we would expect Jessa & Ben to live a lifestyle far below what they are accustomed to. The patriarchal families are notorious for having low standards of living. The Duggars are a very notable exception. If Ben begins working with the Duggars, finances may not be a problem. I have no personal knowledge of what contracts have been signed or what the compensation is for anyone appearing on the show, but Ben (and Jessa, too, since she's an adult) may have contracts allowing for payment directly to them. Whether that's enough remains to be seen. But that doesn't eliminate other problems, such as whether or not they are compatible.

I must have then misunderstood the accusation of hypocrisy. To me, the claim was was that, since Michelle and/or Jim Bob had done things in their youth, they have no right to tell their own children not to do those things.

I remember reading an interview when someone on "Survivor" fell into the fire. The question was asked if a cameraman would stop filming and go help someone like that. The answer was, "If they did, I would fire them". These reality-type shows, for all the scripting and editing that are done, are surprisingly okay with watching disaster happen.

On the other hand, is it hypocritical for people who did drugs when they were young to tell their children it's not a good idea? Jim Bob and Michelle obviously believe their younger selves made mistakes when dating and want to make sure their kids don't make the same mistakes. We can agree or disagree with them, but I'm not convinced that makes them hypocrites.

Loved how JJ complained yesterday about how she hates cases about people that are put on cell phone plans...

If they say at the end of round three, "I've got this in the bag" or something like that, they tend to be chopped.

Today's second episode, second case, regarding the car accident on a dark & snowy night. Loved the hall interview where Mom is fixated on how the other driver had her kids come back to his place. That's NOT the point, for Heaven's sake!

It does have many cultish aspects to it. That's become controversial because IBLP really only has the amount of control over a person's life that a person lets it have. Of course that's true of many cults, but there's no communal living requirement in IBLP/ATI the way there is in the more recognizable cults. In those groups, the constant control of one's life is made possible through communal living. In IBLP, that surveillance is carried out by the family itself on the individual members, specifically husband over wife, parents over children. Naturally, the children have no say over how much control IBLP has over their life until they become adults and are able to get out of it. http://www.recoveringgrace.org/2012/06/i-just-want-to-be-normal/