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I agree on this, unlike the main show creator of The Goldbergs who grew up during the decade. The constant jumping around with no set years gives them excuses for inconsistencies on Goldbergs. With FOTB, they try to keep it to those specific years. The show is now set to be 95 going into 96 and the show creators said they are doing the trends of the time. They are getting that with Shaq, certain wrap artists, lunchables and the like. But they really need to realize their locations where the stories are taking place. I was in Florida twice in the 90s both early and late and I knew they had Checkers there instead of Rallys which are the same company. Or how the terminate situation was just glossed over by Jess, when that was a huge thing in the mid nineties with older homes due to the climate. I get they play for laughs but still for a show that wants to be tighter nit due to the timeline of the show. They are missing the basics.

We wouldn't be watching LMS if we weren't fans or we didn't come in loving it. We are pointing out of what has really hurt the show the last few years or what are the weakest areas of it. If you look back, we do enjoy many episodes of it. I mean right now, one show I loved to death that has fallen is Castle and I can't even watch it and if it came to the point that LMS did what they have done with that show, I would stop watching. Jordan Masterson who plays Ryan last movie was: Bad Roomies. He was on the Family Channel series, Greek, which was great in. Of course, that was more drama than comedy. Joley Fisher has been in several TV and films in the last two years.

I really think that is why they did it, plus the various Canada jokes they made after the reveal. However, it was never established in season 1 when Nick Jonas was playing Ryan. In fact, Ryan apparently had started working for a theatre company and realized he had made a mistake running out in them. Then in season 2, he was a truck driver who found everything wrong in the world. That is so true, they aren't funny, they can't make it work either. In fact, Masterson is told to have the beard during the filming of the show because Ryan is suppose to be "a hippy". End of season 2, he was in the middle of filming a movie and couldn't have the beard, and other work he does, he doesn't have it. Fuller isn't funny at all, she tries and why she thought she could after being on various drama TV series is beyond me. As for Boyd, most likely they thought he was cute and would be a natural and yet their best stories are having him getting in trouble at school or having Ryan or Mike flip out about something because Boyd is "special". Completely agree, everything is thrown in and then never mentioned again. Same with Ed getting his girlfriend pregnant, they followed it up but after the reveal that she miscarried and then broke up a few episodes later. It was never head of again. Eve had some of the worst character development in seasons 2-3. She wanted to be a boy and do things boys do. She had these invisible boyfriends or guys who wanted to change her for 1 episode. Don't get me started on her picking and almost bullying Boyd is season 2. Holy, DCFS would have been all over the Baxter house. She was supposed to be 15 with a 7 year old nephew, not 10 and attacking her little brother. This season has been the best for Eve, she wants to have fun, doesn't have to always be "a boy" and has interesting stories. Of course it revolves around her wanting to go to the military and the shooting range which has been consistent since season 2. Carol and Chuck have really been all over the place. In season 2 when they brought them in and Vanessa felt they had to be friends and then BFFS. It was so heavy handed and if I would have been then, I would have put in a restraining order. Then you add in Chuck "retiring" from the military and being a bum but then created his own security company to have something to do again. Why did he get so upset then retiring and why did Carol just leave him alone to get an idea. Plus, they have a son, which we never knew about and then introduced last season as a possible interest for Eve, that went nowhere. So, then why did Chuck want to all of a sudden divorce Carol, if their son was still in high school and he could spend more time with him? Why did Carol just tell Vanessa to stop acting like its the 80s when talking to her and to just act like they are human and not separated by color? Their history has been as confusing as Ryan's. Vanessa's character has been an utter mess since season 2. Mostly because the writers had no idea what a geologist does for an energy company. Her going into the school world has now turned into her wanting to drink herself stupid because she can't handle the politics of the school system and its all Obama's fault according to Mike. However, I do feel for her, Mike wants to be a grumpy old man at home. He is never happy anymore, I keep thinking he is going to kill Kyle at times. He apparently doesn't care about his job anymore, he wants to constantly tell Ryan how badly he is raising Boyd, yet his ideas for raising Boyd right are sometimes worse. I'm waiting for Vanessa to turn into a drunk and Mike to be on his front porch with a shotgun threatening to shoot if anyone walks by. That's what really makes no sense. All in the Family, Sanford and Son and other "edgy" shows like them had their points in the 70s and early 80s. However, now that thought process doesn't work, shows try it but they try to fill a specific audience or an area that it works for material. LMS comes off as too one-sided and like a bad stand up show. In the last four years they have gone with this approach, the stories don't work and the ratings have reflected it. When they don't use Ryan, Kristin, Boyd and just do a quick joke on it, the episodes are more funny and enjoyable and show hints of the original premise of the show. When they go all political, people get tired of it and tune out. My wife who is raised in a very heavy republican family finds the jokes too one-sided and even when I have told her she says its the democrats fault. She later goes, sorry, I'm just too use to being like that because that's how I was raised. If anything LMS should address that we are instilled to hate a specific party or person from the get go and never look at the cold hard facts. Its like how Tim Allen doesn't want Trump as president even though he is republican but still goes: "But the republican party is the savor of the country." You can't have it both ways.

Right because remember, we don't know better. They do, its in all forms of media from TV to comics, where they do it because they see the amazement of their story telling until it falls flat on their faces.

Well thanks. After they recast the role of Kristin, Ryan and Boyd in season 2 and Tim Allen wanted to go more "All in the Family" as he put it and the time change from winning its slot on Tuesday to Friday nights. LMS was lucky it made it to season 3 and the ratings stabilized. However, they also got it into their heads that Kristin, Ryan and Boyd had to be this "big happy family". Getting them back together in season 2, and then engaged in season 3 and then the "non-wedding" we never saw in season 4. The problem also with the three they have to constantly rewrite the characters history to make their stories work. Ryan comes up with some extremely stupid thought process and Kristin supports him and Mike gets up in arms over how stupid it is. Then they reach some dumbass compromise and then wash, rinse, repeal for the last four years. The entire changing Ryan's family to make his dad a moron, his mom aloof and then some how magically being from Canada and living in Colorado long enough for Kristin to get knocked up, never made sense and still doesn't to this day. Can I see someone like Ryan getting scared and not supporting Kristin. Sure, but to magically backpack in South America on his dad's money (whom he apparently has hated for years). His Save the Earth mentality and other stupid atheist, liberal thought process. How did him and Kristin ever get together to begin with? They come off as more as two high school kids that got drunk at a party and hooked up once and got Boyd as result. Which then would make sense and not a school couple who weren't thinking and oops, baby. Plus, Boyd comes off as just being less intelligent than his parents. Calling his teacher boring constantly in the middle of class. ADHD that no one wants to get a handle on. Apparently never getting immunity shots (Ryan either, which made even less sense). Kristin constantly saying how special he is and wants to be a doctor and now has forgotten that career to run a restaurant for her dad after she said she wanted to have a "real career". Then again having Kristin being in pre-med but anti vaccine because of hearing stuff from celebrities? That made even less sense, especially when it was constantly shown that Mike and Vanessa were helping Kristin constantly with Boyd. Of course if they decided to write the trio out then the writers would have to think of better story lines with Vanessa. Which they rather her want to vote for a woman president because she's a woman. Keeps thinking she is stuck in the 70s/80s on how african-american people should be. Leaves an over 75K job to be a school teacher because her son-in-law convinced her only grandson that she was destroying the Earth that was influenced by Eve's classmate a season before. They rather have Vanessa drinking and complaining about things because its easy to write it. Meanwhile, hey look, Trump wants to be president, Tim Allen might be large republican but he doesn't want that but the jokes will be: "He doesn't represent our best interests." "What's the best interests, dad?" "Not his." (Insert laugh track). LMS is very straw-man political talk, it wants to constantly complain about what is wrong with the president, school system or America in general but because its being ran by democrats but never gives why republican is better only because its not "them". Making quick pot shot at a political figure, sure we get it. However, when you constantly blame one person for something, including the weather, it makes you come off as a moron but sadly many people believe that too, but never give a straight forward answer how to fix it. Just: "Its Obama's fault." or "Its the government's fault." "Or its that alderman's fault." Where you want to go: "Yes, because they were in office when it happen, but weren't but hey, they aren't fixing it now, so its all their fault."

What's even more funny is the show is having its highest ratings in two years and they have shown its the episodes that don't have Ryan and Boyd in it. In fact, the episodes that do focus on Boyd and Ryan are the lowest because people tune out for those episodes. If LMS continues with these ratings, it will get a six season most likely but we know that once you start passing 100 episodes (February). Salaries and expenses for the show go up. If Tim Allen and crew are smart, they should write Kristin, Ryan and Boyd out. Focus more on Chuck and Denise and their son because its pretty obvious the writers are realizing that when they "have to" write Kristin, Ryan and Boyd has the main story. No one wants to watch the show, plus you would think after four years of recasting all of the parts, that the cast would have better chemistry or stories together and they don't. Sorry, LMS, but if you want to last, I think you know what you have to do but if you get rid of K,R and B, then Tim Allen can't do his political stories.

I'm in full agreement, I mean these show runners are acting like they are making the most awesome story to tell and by that they are going over what hurts the show and alienates their audience. Not to mention bringing back plots that were disasters like the Castle Mythology or introducing plots that take almost 9 episodes before they are revisited again. They don't build, they are just *Bam* here they are. Now, we won't talk about them for even hint at them and then *Bam* here it is again, aren't we clever? No, its poor writing and then when ratings sink, critics and fans both agree that its bad story telling. They will turn face and go: "But we thought it would be awesome."

I completely agree. The show was not introduced to be anything about politics or raising Boyd. Yes, Kristin as a single mother was a plot point but the show was about a guy who dealt with life and his house full of women. Then they decided: "We are going to be like Archie Bunker and deal with politics" that's where it started going down hill. Plus, the recasting of Kristin, Amanda Fuller was not a good choice. She is fine in drama but not comedy same goes for the actor who plays Ryan. I've seen him in other shows and TV movies and he's fine there. Here as the wet blanket, hippy former deserting dad. It doesn't work. I would like to see a final end game for Mandy and Kyle though. They have been together for almost three years. Either promote Kyle, get them engage or move on. I've also liked the last two episodes with Eve actually having fun. Going to a concert, going to the gun range but then joining up with friends later. Like last season when she decided to throw a party while her parents were away. It was so much better than Eve: "I'm like my dad, wish I was secretly a boy and pick on all my sisters and my nephew and tell my mom I don't care."

This was probably the most funny episode they have done but likes. Ken's wife is a piece of work, I don't like that about the character at all. Also, if the skeleton fell apart in the car, why didn't she look for the shin bone in the car?

That was surprisingly a really enjoyable Halloween episode. I thought Kyle as Ed was the best, those scenes were great. No Ryan or Boyd and Kristin was in it for 5 minutes. At this point, they should just write them out, because they add nothing to the show and the episodes are better without them. I also liked Vanessa a lot in this episode, except for her still doing her entire: "Chuck should have rhythm because he's black" comment and Mike giving the Masters degree away, the rest was pretty funny. However, Mike and Chuck turning into the old guys who want to watch TV and forget everything else, that I we don't need. The Toy Story jokes were great though.

I really would like to know why there was no Halloween story this year. If it was because the writers couldn't think of a story, I say: "Boo" to them. I know you can't always find a story, but when its been on every year. Get cracking, its your job to do it. Of course since they have spent so much time making Claire look so incompetent the last few episodes. They probably didn't want to show her in her element with Halloween, but also missed opportunities with Joe and Lily and Luke being on the verge of not wanting to do it since he's driving now. I could have wrote the episode.

Nope, Modern Family is a repeat of last year with Claire's Home of Horrors where she turned all of Phil's "lovable" stuff into death.

Doesn't matter if they are 18, if they are an attending student and have a legal guardian they are living with. That guardian is to be notified of any truancy or other related skipping or failing of school. If Jess had been on his own, then that is one thing but in this case even at a place like SHHS, it wouldn't have happened. Like I said, it was written as a plot to get the spin off with Jess and his Dad when the WB/CW decided they weren't going to go through with.

I enjoyed the episode but I really wanted to see Jessica beat those punks. I know in the mid 90s you can teens that were vandalizing things left and right and the police or other people were like: "Oh, they're just being teens." Now, if they do it, they get beaten and chased down and then lawsuits happen and the defense is: "You don't screw with me!" I was a bit surprised Jessica ignored the termite possibility. If she had done her research, she should know homes like that, especially in warmer weather are known to be attacked by termites.

I completely agree, there are a lot of factors against her unlike Milo Jared, Kelly Bishop, Sean Gunn, ect. I could see them writing her character off due to business opportunities for Jackson or something. They would have to address it no matter what, Sookie was too long a major cast member to GG just like they have to address Richard being gone and sad to say, it is easy to address it with Richard dying.

Actually that is the basic formula right there.

See, that what made the episode go downhill right there. Bond Courts can't do that, in fact I remember a few seasons ago a judge just assigned Alicia a case when she was already in the middle of another one. Lawyers have multiple clients and work on several cases while one might be in court or deliberation. However, you can't just tell a lawyer: "They either plead guilty/innocent or you can't work." Or just say: "Hey, I tell you what to do and you will do it." TV has for years acted like judges are presidents but they have to follow rules with other court officers. Then you have to add in that this $800 fugly sweater was out in the open with no one in sight and the mother just shop lifted it for her daughter. No, sorry not working. Diane taking down Canning, that was the only highlight because guess what, in real life someone like him would have no clients or court cases at all because he's a joke.

I agree with that because as weird as SHHS apparently was, how they can speak more languages than in the city really was stretching things. Now, a teacher doing it in every language because they wanted to teach diversity, that makes plenty of sense. The problem is, the more you look at the first four seasons, the more SHHS comes across as a school that in this day and age would be shut down from not following common core, having students skip and never notifying parents/guardians. Having sports programs that do great one year but then fizzle out because their seniors graduate and the coaches never play anyone up from the younger grades. Plus, the principals waits until two weeks before the school year is over to tell you that you are failing and will have to repeat. Of course, this is where people like Taylor can control the entire town and everyone does it when he doesn't do anything close to what a Selectman really does. Not to mention Kirk's endless jobs and the nightmare of tax filing he would have to do.

The problem is Ken, is funny but the rest of the characters aren't. The boss is so set with cliches you have to wonder how he ever ended up running a health care company, let alone a hospital. The nursing and doctor staff are over acting beyond belief that its sad. The family is funny from the son to the wife and the daughter borders between teen queen or being pretty normal at 16. I don't see how this show got a full season order though but I guess they have nothing to replace it with. Its like with Last Man Standing, the ratings have gone down so much but ABC wants the 100 episode syndication and keep Tim Allen in their good graces but there really isn't much there. Fridays have become a wasteland for comedies and other shows these days. Hard to believe that twenty years ago it was when you did want to stay home and watch funny shows.

Jess returning actually works perfect in any story sense and of course as we know, Milo really doesn't have a lot on his plate right now. I love to see Jess has become a successful book writer and continues to run his book store. However, he's moved into eReader and kept up with the times and even holds classes for aspiring new writers or even teacher a GED class. Be a natural move for the character.

Wow, look what happens when you don't have any Ryan or Boyd, Kristin is only on TV for 5 minutes and you just keep the political jokes to a quick punch line. See, then you have a funny episode and no one looks like a moron. In fact, it was such a nice change of pace to see Eve having fun and being excited to go to the concert. Usually she is: "I hate everything, give me a gun, I'm going into the military and being a republican and everyone else is stupid." Here, she was being a normal teen girl. I also like how Vanessa revealed she was more like Mandy in the party sense and sees that she has grown up and realizes she might have been too strict. As for the garage pit, well here is the thing, they started being a problem because if they weren't open pits, people tended to... die. Those who built them before there were so many problems can still legally have them. They do need a permit for them, but I get it both Tim Allen and Jay Leno had to take a shot at the president because remember, Tim Allen hates him and all democrats. However, this was an actually enjoyable show but really, enough with stupider than dirt Kyle. Its not funny, he looks like he is one step away from being killed by an ant.

That's why the plot makes no sense, it shows that Claire is hated and really not thought of in any regard. That isn't funny that's both sad and painful. Like I said earlier when she said to get a mint chip cake and everyone acted like she ordered poison. You are trying to tell me that someone wouldn't like mint chip? You are trying to tell me that no one can get a cake on their own so they have to ask Jay all the time? That means these people might be able to build closets but can't make common sense decisions. That company is doomed when Jay retires. Everyone hates Claire and the employees can't use the bathroom without permission.

Phil said that Luke and the other boys needed it to graduate some day. Which is true, some schools require community service hours. I had to do 12 hours back in the 90s and I finished it up in two weekends and I was 16 at the time. Manny ended up saying he finished his a week ago but enjoyed cleaning up the community. As for Claire, yeah, they write her to whatever the story has to be. In this case, Claire is left is charged and screws everything up. Similar to last week with her trying to do the closet ideas and ends up looking like an idiot because she didn't do her research on her own company and the birdseed incident. Then go back to last season with Mitchell helping out and everyone hating Claire because they could. It isn't funny because other times she is shown very confident and doing a good job. Yet here, she ends up like Phil and gets put in a very stupid situation without even trying. I think Jay said it best: "I was gone for 30 seconds, how did you do this?"

I can see Chris coming for the funeral, despite the problems with Straube and Francine. Both families knew each other for years, so I see that as the excuse for Chris to show up. Georgia would be about 12-13 depending on how they would do the timeline. So, there is your teen angst! Michel would be around, he was the manager of the Dragonfly. If its still around (I'm sure it is), why wouldn't Michel be around too. Sookie and Jackson are the tricky things since both actors are doing a lot now, especially McCarthy. Outside of Jared due to Supernatural, I can see the three of them not being in the mini series despite how much AS-P would want them. I can see Marty being thrown in there just because he's in-between broadway and TV. AS-P would snatch him up. I see Paris showing up no problem but I don't expect to see Doyle (actor is pretty busy and an Emmy winner now). Same goes for Logan, even though The Good Wife is a sinking ship, CBS doesn't like to let go for their actors (see McCarthy). I think once we get closer to see who signs up and a possible air date, then we will have a better idea of the stories. Right now, too much up in the air due to the various actors that were in the. Outside the main 4 of Lauren, Alexis, Kelly and Scott, who knows what everyone else will decide.

I do see that happening, Mrs. Readster and I really enjoyed this show but we all agree on "Perfect Penny" is going to eat up screen time. Even by the previews, we get it, she isn't the best resident. Plus, she's been painted as an idiot since the beginning. "Let's skip the CT." Penny: "We shouldn't do that, we might see something in it." "It'll be a waste of time." Penny: "Ok." "I can't be bothered for some guy you found. I have more important things to do." Penny: "But your the attending neurologist." "Fix it yourself!" Penny: "Ok." Then you had the reveal who Derek was and everyone went ballistic on why they weren't trying to save him. Everyone screwed up at that medical center. They acted like their patient just hit their head, that he was a nobody that didn't need time. Then the medical center loses money and gets shut down. Hmmm.... I wonder why? Then Penny's excuse for not saying anything to Callie and applying to GS was because: "It was a big hospital." Apparently, Perfect Penny can't do a google search, read up on how long Derek was at the hospital, ect. Now, we will be subjected to her being yelled at as a little school girl who gets in trouble with the teacher. But then will magically became an amazing surgeon in a crisis and be redeemed. Sure!