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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Paris at times would also just go down crazy down alley all of a sudden. Her locking herself in and thinking everyone was against her at the Yale Daily News when she was editor. Plus, her entire affair with Professor Fletcher and why she broke up with Jaime and not to mention her problems with her freshman roommates. Her major break down on TV when she found out she didn't get into Harvard. That was too much. -
I think they were just trying to show that Gigi had two parents who didn't know what to do and it made Lorelai come out looking like the better parent. I thought it was utterly ridiculous that Georgia didn't celebrate Christmas or anything. I could see how this went on: "Daddy, what's a birthday?" Christopher: "When kids get sick from eating too much cake and drinks." "Daddy, why are fireworks in the sky every 4th of July?" "Your grandmother just won her fundraiser for the DAR. Now, go back to playing outside and don't ask about pumpkins."
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Michel took a major turn after the fire to down right mean at times. Of course Sookie's behavior when from quirky to not only obsessive but a woman who look like she was on the verge of a nervious breakdown. Lorelai and Luke became morons and don't get me started with Emily. The writers really got to a point where they didn't know what to do with the characters or didn't believe in their talent of writing. "Oh no, if they get together, it will ruin the show." "Oh we have to keep it so the rift between Emily and Lorelai will never heal." "Of course maids would keep banging down the door to work for Emily. Her firing them from looking at her grand daughter wrong or being framed for theft wouldn't lead to agencies telling Emily to go to hell." -
Wes is also portrayed as an unprofessional moron too. I am having a hard time he would have his position if most of the government knows he is a cheating, lying, moron who has screwed up more jobs than succeeded. Plus, he agreed to name is daughter, Minx? Of course, I met a 10 year old where her name is pronounced: "Alien" it's spelled differently but everyone in the room looked at her going: "Why would your parents do that to you?" I also agree, with the strange plot changes, so Claire and Wes were having an affair way before her husband disappeared? That just throws the plot out the door with her so shocked and amazed he was alive and the motivation for the affair. Now its: "My son lost his hearing, my husband was too busy flying missions for the government, hey Wes let's hook up." None of the characters are likable and the kids are extremely stupid and of course Drill can change the law of physics with a thought. He's Q but boring.
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I agree, most of the actors are already looking elsewhere or have other small roles they have been cast in. Best bet with ABC, just let it die, run off the last episodes and then be done with it. They tried but bad writing and actors seeming to act like they don't want to be there and this huge of a drop in ratings, time to consider it over.
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Very true, they realized they are getting something out of it. However, they aren't seeing that Drill set them up too. Harper's mom wouldn't have anything wrong with her if Harper wouldn't have been stupid enough to have her fall out of the tree house. Henry gets his hearing and dad back but oh look, he is causing meltdowns and people to get killed in the process. Minx is just being evil and of course if you are stupid enough to name your kid Minx then I'm sorry, you are asking for it. I'm sure, there is something she is getting in the long run but its being dragged out as a plot point. In the long run, the kids are just being stupid and not thinking of what the consquences for their actions are or being manipulated. That's why Drill uses them, they are easy manipulated where an adult would go: "Excuse me, how is that giving me something by hurting or killing someone in the process." Even in the original Zero Hour, the kids weren't not written as bright there either, even if the aliens were controlling them. They did it because they are young and naive.
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Star Wars Rebels - General Discussion
readster replied to Meredith Quill's topic in Star Wars Rebels
That is how you kick things off and I know they have Vader and Ashoka face off. You know its going to happen. I think the one part that I have never understood in the Star Wars universe is how the secret of Anikan Skywalker being Darth Vader was such an unknown. As proven in Revenge of the Sith, many knew about Skywalker's betrayal. I can understand Luke an Leia, that was only known to a handful but still and if anything how everyone just reacted like no one knew who was Darth Vader except for the Empire. Even the movies established that Vader hunted down more surviving jedi after his final battle with Obi-wan. Still an awesome episode especially when Vader took out most of the Rebel fleet on his own. -
It also didn't help that the actor was also busy doing a show on broadway too and the only reason he showed up in season 7 was because he was available for a while between his next show. I can't fault that on the actor but I can on the writers who go: "Oh look, so and so is free, let's use him, because we love him not because the story will make sense."
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Not to mention a woman who didn't know what Google was when Richard made the comment or even wondering how Rory could carry such a big cellphone like the Sidekick II when they were popular at the time. The Rap line while funny was out of place with Emily saying it.
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How very true and since those times, many DAR groups have stepped away from that type of decision making. Like I have mentioned, we have several chapters around where I live and I have known friend who have family members in them. They were also GG watchers and said that the choice for the DAR for Emily made no sense since they don't do half the things she did on the show. If Emily would have been shown to do more music, arts and education movements and only her and her mini circle of friends were snobs, it would have made sense. However, on the show they acted like the DAR controlled Hartford. Richard could have cared less about the group and when Luke or others asked with the DAR did. Emily and the women would laugh at them like they were the biggest morons on the planet. I one time mentioned it to my nephews and they had no idea who they were and their mom did but she never saw the point of really explaining what they are or who they were.
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
That kept in the theme since season 1 on Christopher, it was never his fault, it was always someone else's. He didn't drop out of school because he hated it or was lost, not it was Lorelai and Rory's fault. He didn't knock someone else up seventeen years later, oh not that was his girlfriend's fault. Him failing to not be in Rory's life regularly growing up, oh no that was Lorelai's fault. You get the point, nothing was ever Christopher's fault and everyone constantly reminded him and the audience that was the point. He could do no wrong, everyone else did it to him. -
One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Followed by Anna saying: "I also asked him to take off his hat or at least stop wearing it backwards all the time." "He told me that was his thing and he wasn't going to change for me." "I knew it was over right there and then, I mean how could he be a father if he wouldn't turn his hat around?" I really would have loved to seen the court hearing on all of this. -
One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
readster replied to mstaken's topic in Gilmore Girls
Yeah, I also could see the judge going to Anna: "So, you never told him that you were pregnant because you thought he might be a bad parent?" Anna: "Yes, I mean the sex was great but he was never really 'open' about his life." Judge: "What do you mean open?" Anna: "Well, he said he sent money to his sister, had his own place after his dad died, loved his job, was well respected by the town but he never told me where the relationship was going." Judge: "I see. You're a moron madam." -
I completely agree. Reminds me of my relationship with my father. All the years and the things he has experienced and went through and he still doesn't get it. However, has me made progress or at least tried to do things to have a relationship with me and my children. Sure but sadly he fell back into: "What is easy to do instead of what is right."
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With what happened to Luke, I will talk about on another thread since we all know when Luke's character was thrown under the bus and never recovered. For Emily, it started with Mitchum but when she went out of her way to destroy Luke and Lorelai and that entire scene with Christopher is not only forced but that was Chris's assassination as a character too. I did look over the episode again and I'm sorry, if anyone person would have referred to my child as a "this" which is what Emily did and then the fact that not only did Chris listen to her but then in Wedding Bell Blues to pretty much say that no matter what, Luke's relationship was going to end and he was going to pick up the pieces because he should have married her since day 1. I'm sorry, that was too much. That wasn't the Christopher who realized he screwed up and was taking responsibility for his second child he had out of wedlock and then married his girlfriend. No, but as soon as Sherry left Chris turned back into: "Poor me, I can't do anything right." "Save me Lorelai!" What was even worst was Emily's referral to Georgia as "this" was the same as what Straube and Francine had said what Rory was over the years. They never saw her as their granddaughter and Richard and Emily hated them for that. They loved her even if Straube and Francine didn't and no one was going to call her a "this". Of course as mentioned, Emily never learned, it was her way or the high way, she lived in this world of: Wasps, Rich Folk, DAR get togethers, impressing people with more money than them, ect. They reacted in human ways when they were told they weren't good enough or if anyone really did insult members of their family. Yet they turned around and did just that and despite everything. I never believed that Mitchum, the rest of the Huntzburgers were trying to plan Rory's downfall or anything like that. They were like Emily and Richard, they had a way they believed things and no one was going to tell them otherwise even if they had no reason to crush or humiliate people. They just did it because that's what they believed. However for what Emily did with trying to destroy Luke and Lorelai, pretty much telling Christopher to obey her because she liked his "genes" and family status. Despite that fact that pretty much no one cared for Chris's family, especially after Straube died and not even Francine considered Georgia to her granddaughter either was too much. Then for Richard to backstab Jason because he dared to go out with his daughter because Jason's dad hated the fact that Jason didn't want to take over the family business was just as ridiculous and out of character for Richard. Those were moments that were not only out of character for them but any other human being would have not only stopped talking to them. They would have ran them over with their cars.
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I agree, considering her real name was: "Georgia" but at the same time, GiGi was never explained where that nickname came from outside ASP liked it.
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They also wanted to throw out excuses left and right about why they ran things like that. Constantly talking about: "The Moonlighting Curse." Saying it was similar to their relationships with their own parents, thinking it worked better with the formula of the show. However, it really backfired on them, even to the point the actors and now the Ps look back going: "Yeah, we really could have done that better couldn't we?" What really throw my hands up on Emily was both the way her and Richard thought that Rory being put down by Mitchum was a fabrication of Lorelai's imagination, the way she fired her maids the last two years but it all goes back how she really tried to end Lore and Luke's relationship because: *gasp* what will her friends and the DAR think if their only child married a diner owner from a small town she has lived in for 20 years! Plus, then how she acted that the fight was nothing and that Lorelai was just doing her spouting off again. After that, I could have cared less about Emily because her character was completely tarnished by then and no going back.
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Yeah, even Kelly Bishop said as the series was ending she felt that Emily backtracked instead of grew or moved forward as a character. She said one of her favorite episodes towards the end of the series was: "I am kayak, hear me roar." Saying that it seemed at that moment, Emily realized it was time to let go of the past but sadly swung right back to being Emily of season 1 all over again. It was like the writers gave up and thought about just trying to make Emily be either a complete moron oblivious to how the world worked outside her niche in life. I would go on more about it but I'll save that for another day. The biggest thing that drove me nuts was how much Emily hung out to Chris and Lore getting married and being one big happy family with Rory after over 20 years. As many people and critics said: "Time to get over it."
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Same with mine and the school I work for now, that's what we do too.
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Yet the game will go from $500 to $1,200 on ebay now. My cousin had two and were left at his old house after his dad sold it. He is kicking himself now. One was never opened.
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I agree on this even outside the show like with Gould. He is no where near Luke, he is already in college, having finished HS two years early. He is does crafts and loves sports, including basketball. On the show, he can't talk right, acts like a mini stupid version of Phil and is shown to be very oblivious to things where it's creepy, not funny. Same goes with Sara who is a very nice and intelligent person in real life. Yet, the show wants to trope on: Pretty=stupid, smart=nerd/can't function, Youngest kid=insert joke here. It's like with Cam and Mitchell, they went from trying to not be stereotypes to both of them being horribly written as stereotypes, especially Cam. With Phil and Claire it the classic: "one spouse is a moron and the other is uptight." That's been going on for years. There can't seem to be a balance with the characters. I mean look over at Last Man Standing, you have the oldest who screwed up in life and can't seem to do things right. The middle one is played dumb and the last one of course is a tomboy and nothing like the other two at all and comes across as mean half the time. Mean seems to flip flop between the oldest or youngest of three kids on shows. Or if there are two, one is the goof and the other is the serious one. Sad when you think about it, they want to talk about not being cliche on shows and then the showrunners just do that. Like now with Andy and Haley and Beth. They want to make a love triangle that is so forced and bad, everyone comes across like kids on a playground and none of them want to be adults and deal with it. Or the adults who do know about it, either want to keep their mouths shut or can't do something logical to help the situation. Like with Phil calling them from his iPhone.
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I know, Ariel Winter looks amazing outside the show. Similar to Eden Sher from The Middle. She is very un-Sue outside of the show. I get why they make them look like that for the characters but they have beaten it to death over the years. I thought Alex looked great in this episode, my wife even said: "Wow, they made her look like an 18 year old."
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Well the entire text things were the problem. Mitch should have replied: "Can you please stop, I'm at my niece's graduation and they don't know I lost my job." Of course the moron could have put it on vibrate but that's like Phil calling Andy or Haley on their cell phones at the end. Why would they do something logical?
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I enjoyed the episode and Phil with the iPad and Robot control was extremely funny but at the end. I mean come on, I get that Phil can get caught up in his hijinks but he has everyone's cell phone numbers. He could have called Andy or Haley or even Luke and put a stop to everything. While we are on that subject, UGGH! Why must we be still dragging out Andy/Haley/Beth triangle. Now, Beth is someone who enjoyed having the drama of breaking up, sex and getting back together to: "If I can't have Andy, no one can!" I find Beth such a plot device, sure she's tall, blonde, well built, is in the coast guard but now dropping hints of hurting Haley. Setting her up to have her hair burned and everything. It's like with Dillion popping in and out. They keep him stupid but one moment he is on the fast track to a pretty good career, the next he is crying about Haley getting married and him spinning signs for a living. Its the classic: "Make the characters stupid to make the plot work." TBTB really do think that Haley and Andy are a great thing but no one cares, in fact no one likes the actor who plays Andy. As said just send both Andy and Beth packing and let's move on. They don't want to try to give Haley a good boyfriend possible future husband that everyone can enjoy. The doctor would have been nice but once again, it has to be true luve! Also, does Gloria have any relatives who aren't trying to backstab her? Also, how are coming to California all the time? Is Jay flying them out? Its a tired joke but the ending was funny. Luke, just stop. Please just stop! As for Cam and Mitch and the condo. First of all getting my own house two years ago, it took almost 10 months for things to clear and that was a short sale. Some sales regular can take 3 to 5 months, so them finding out now or putting the money down when Mitch was still employed. That I can get but knowing that was pending and even he said he thought he be getting a new job soon. How was he paying for his gas and food? I get he was embarrassed and it hits someone hard when they lose their job. Trust me, been there twice due to cutbacks and it is hard but what did I do? Told my family, went to bed, got up the next morning and went out to find a new job and guess what? Even if you have your degree and experience, it is hard even if Mitchell is a lawyer. Cam and the braces, that was way too much. However, it was still a good episode but what a forced cliffhanger for the year.
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S01.E03: Beyond The Tank: Episode 103
readster replied to yeswedo's topic in Shark Tank: Beyond The Tank [V]
I'm waiting for the tiny rooster to show up saying: "You'll love them!"