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Exactly! The entire LADB, quitting school because of Mitchum telling her she didn't have it. The affair with Dean, living with her grandparents and neither thinking what it would be. This wasn't Rory getting a wake up call, it wasn't her growing as a character, it was her retreating because the world wasn't fair and everyone since then called her perfect and that the world was her oyster. However, they also did it that people are cruel and stupid and will ruin things for you because they can and no one will believe someone could ever think that way. That no one will pay for their consequences and that in the end, Rory and everyone else will go back to their simple sweet status quo because the writers and creators of the show don't know how to write it or live in their own fantasy world. It was like with my main problem with Christopher's character after over 20 years in real time, no one would move on from: "You should be married and be one big happy family and aren't because Lorelai ruined it because she didn't agree with the deal and ran away from home!"

I have no problem with character traits, because that's who the person is, just like someone is in real life. However, as reported and from early interviews and social media. It is sounding like a lot of these character are still stuck where they were when the series ended. I'm sure Kirk is still working his 1,000 jobs still, Lulu probably still a regular elementary teacher, hasn't gotten a masters to stay certified or become a principal. Luke has changed his sign to encompass the latest trends and smart devices that he still hates to this day (even though I still like that his character). I'm pretty sure Mrs. Kim is yelling at people to buy something or get out! If both Lane and Zach are still working on captured gigs instead of stabled careers by now, I'm probably going to flip. Characters can progress, just because the show ended and AS-P wasn't in charge doesn't mean that time didn't move forward, even if they are telling us it did with examples of Luke's sign, Ms. Patty possibly retiring, the twins aging, Richard dying, April in college, ect. Yet, after over 7 years, Luke and Lorelai aren't married, Kirk and Lulu are just getting married, the LADB are still being a bunch of Peter Pan assholes and Taylor is still running the town like a mini dictator.

How true and its a trap that TV series keep falling into, especially when they become hits. They have to try to go: "If the character is 15 now and we will probably on air for at least another 5 years with our ratings and rewards, better look a head." Of course with Haley, they had her get kicked out of school for the dumbest reasons, not to mention, she could have gone to another college or community college. Instead it became: "I want to do fashion and I work for some big shot and get ahead in life." She saw how that worked out, but the plan was then to cheat on an engaged man, who was engaged to a lying cheater himself, but hey Haley is the better choice." Same with Alex, they had to keep her in the: "Nerds don't get it." I mean even when she was competing with Sanjay for valedictorian, oh they just both happened to be bad at PE. Because, remember, smart kids can't be athletic either. Writers put themselves in these boxes and instead of trying to be better writers, they just go: "Its too hard, let's break them up or write out the characters. Waaaaa!" Oh grow up!

You know, I hate to say it, but I really wish Taylor wasn't still being the usual "I can do this, because I can." I would have liked it if the character had grown some and didn't realize he had to control everything because he gets jealous of another town or sees a popular trend and feels he has to do it no matter what. Of course, if Kirk and Lulu are getting married now when they were buying a house and engaged when the show ended. I really want a good explanation why it took 7 years. Just like people are saying if Lorelai and Luke haven't gotten it together by now, then AS-P really is living in a time loop.

I completely agree, and that's why everyone hated the story line because it was: "Are you brain dead?" Plus, as mentioned how Mitchum later praised her for getting it back together and what she did afterwards and she throws it all out the door. They were trying to paint it as: "Mitchum is a big bully, he hurt princess Rory and then he had the gull to praiser her after being an asshole." You can't have the story both ways and what was worst was how Emily and Richard believed that Mitchum said those things when there was constant talk he was a hardass. It was them trying to make a character look bad so you were on another characters side. They did this with: Nicole, Dean, Jess, Anna, Emily and Christopher, but fans, critics and viewers hated that. Much like how Kirk and Taylor did such half assed ideas, but hey, that's Kirk and Taylor, we should smile, take our stupid pills and move on. Instead of people wanting to punch them or kick them out of the building and say: "Stay out! or I'm getting a straining order." Or how Taylor didn't get several lawsuits for abusing his power as Selectman is beyond me. But remember, Emily was only sued by one maid and knew if a blueberry was moved from her perfect basket even if it fell down by gravity. It was someone else's fault.

I know and then you add in that Claire basically dragged them to "daughters at work day" when there were no other daughters, but them. Add in Phil wanting to do these way ward projects of his. No wonder the kids are so babied, they figure: "We have to drop everything for mom and dad, they can drop things for us!" "Oh no, I have to pee, I better text mom to see if I can use the bathroom."

Took Kirk and Lulu 7 years to officially get married. Yeah, sounds like AS-P. People drag on the obvious things or never let things go.

I had several friends during my undergraduate days where their roommates both in the dorms and later apartment went home almost every weekend or every other weekend. They lived from 30 to 45 minutes away and it was doing it for either laundry, seeing boyfriends/girlfriends, close relationships with family members, ect. I know this is TV and so forth, but it existed 40 years ago, it existed 20 years ago and it does today. Kids go home for various reasons even in college. Even if its just sleep in their own bed once a weekend and get their laundry done for free.

Yeah, I did some looking back. Yeah, they remember her and so forth, I'm thinking more along the lines that Luke was like 8 and Liz 5 or 6. Then of course their dad was dedicated to working and trying to be a great dad and Luke and him had more in common. Which happens with families like that and just at some point, Liz went her way and we know how her life turned out. I also get that Luke and his Dad were very similar in not only personality and being handy, but sadly were taken advantage of their good nature.

I think that is what pissed me off the most because it was horrible. I get why Ben was in trouble with what he was doing. What I can't get past is the entire Mental Health doctor and the set up for Grey Sloan. There would have been a locked cart with code in a part of the wing. There would have been a pull or tag button and as I said before. The doctor in the Mental Health unit acted like this happened on a regular basis and that they should just let the guy die. Forget Ben being held liable if anything happened (which he would) but the entire hospital would be sued over that kind of set up. Plus, not everyone in a Mental Health Ward looks like they should be locked up in Arkham Asylum. I know we saw a whopping 3 patients when Ben and his moron 1st year resident were in the ward, but you think these people were going to break out and eat people's faces when they passed by. As I've said too, people in Mental Health range from depressed to possibly hurting themselves. However, you will see those who are shooting pool or drawing pictures. The doctor there was: "No sharp object." Really, then what were you writing with on the clip board moron?

As someone who has worked in hospitals, the psych ward would have a ER call button that alerts of the area so the right team comes in to treat the patient if they are coding. Because you know, that does really happen, people under observation in hospitals can also have medical problems that cause them to have heart attacks, strokes, ect. The ward doctor acted like a complete idiot: "Oh you won't find a knife in here or anything." "What are you doing?" "Just let him die." I'm like what? I also agree, Ben has been a doctor for years and I get that he wasn't an attending, but the rule is, if you are a doctor and you do know what you are doing, you have to act not stand around waiting for mommy or daddy to show up. Remember kids, shut off your brains and take your stupid pills because that's how every plot worked tonight.

I have to agree there, when Marty brought up his parent thing at home I went: "That was so out of the blue, how does it even relate to anything?" Then you add in the Hutzbergers view and way of parenting and they made Emily and Richard look like saints almost. Its funny, while Luke's father was highly praised, we heard almost zero on his mother or even Anna's father. Almost nothing on Lulu's folks or where the hell Mr. Kim was. The writers either chose to ignore a said parent or thought it would work as a running gag to make Lorelai and Rory look like the best mother/daughter relationship EVER!

Didn't even think about the spelling, how true. I could see it being an in joke.

I agree with this, I mean he was such a minor throw away. Even though AS-P said it was her pre-Jess with the bad boy attitude. Sometimes I wonder if this revival isn't a way for AS-P to play out storylines she feels she missed out on in a very backwards sense. Now, if it a completely different Tristian and Rory goes: "Funny, I used to know a Tristian, wonder what happened to him?" That be a nod to CMM Tristian and then move on with it.

I have to agree, Agent Carter was done months ago and he had another movie coming out that was way done filming. I don't see why they couldn't get him if this actor is suppose to be "that" Tristian.

I called that product placement, because all the characters had new phones every few episodes. I even remember Kirk when he was a real estate agent having his bluetooth with a smart phone. Of course that is a nitpick, because the type he had would have light up if he had a call. He suddenly stops and goes: "Hello?" and then turns away. I know its acting, but at least try to make it look like he really is getting a call on his headset. Another time, Kirk had a flip phone and didn't open it because they had to show the side of it to see that it was a Motrolla phone and couldn't if it was open and he was talking into it. I remember one episode, Paris had a sidekick and a few episodes later, she had a Trello. Then the Trello was switched out with an early android phone. It was jarring, Luke and Sookie and Jackson at least kept similar phones during the series. Even when Luke broke down and finally got a cellphone when he hated them (and still does from the stills from the revival).

I agree. Someone who has been through a wedding and served in a few. Usually people dress before they come to a wedding. Usually, the main wedding party (unless pressed for time) only change at the church or place, but usually only the bride, maybe the groom and the bridesmaids. For my own, my brothers and I changed before we went to the church. Same goes for my two brother-in-laws, but my one friend changed at the church because he was coming from another location and didn't want to get the tux ruined or dirty. I served in one, where I dressed directly at the garden it was held in due to the weather that day, but I had my tux days before the wedding. So, for Emily an Richard to say that to Luke was not only odd, but also AS-P trying to telegraph more of: "Look out Luke, Emily is trying to break you and Lorelai up."

Yeah, just like with Tyson telling people: "You're evil, obey me!" Canon Fodder: "Yes, master and I'll magically make you be able to hack into government systems too." I'm so happy the show tried to fix a plot hole everyone wanted to forget from the previous show runner and made it even worst. Well done! Few people outside of Chuck Lorre or Brenda Hampton. So, great way to know the current show runners have them beat.

And as AS-P wrote with former members, once they got into their 30s and had jobs and families, they really stopped caring about their glory days int he LDB. Its like AS-P wants to show that these guys just can't grow up and move on.

Shona Rymes, David E. Kelly, Chuck Lorre, Brenda Hampton have been doing it for years or completely ruin their characters due to some BS reason. Sad to say, I don't see it ending in the TV world any time soon. Also, AS-P does hate it when her ego is bruised, but I do doubt even with MM she go that far.

Was she then rescued by the natives and raised in fighting process without knowledge of her past? Because that's what is sounds like and then one day goes: "Hey, I remember who I am. OWEN! NATHAN! I'm back, but I'm not who I was." Dun Dun Dunnnnnn!

I remember both on Black-ish and My Wife and Kids in episodes where the parents didn't tell them the usual spiel on the house rules while they were gone. They went: "They didn't tell us any rules, we can do shit since they didn't tell us any rules." Which is horrible, they didn't get that by their ages (16, 14) that they have to constantly remind you of the rules while they are out for a simple dinner or outing. I mean come on, my nieces and nephews are in their teens and they know the rules when their parents are out because you know, they can think for themselves and use the bathroom without permission. Unlike these kids and let's not get started on Manny the one time he was left alone, he didn't know what to do with himself. Which was really sad.

Same here and I wasn't the best at the laundry at that age, but guess what, I knew the basics. By the time I was 12 I could make my own grilled cheese sandwich and my stepfather came over and said: "Well done and now, I'm going to show you how to make a sub." Sadly, with Claire and Phil, they did everything from Haley, Alex and Luke and are just lost now. I remember a few seasons ago when Phil gave Alex the wrong allergy medicine, which was the drowsy type. My wife and mother-in-law shouted: "You can't do it yourself?"

I also thought it made Emily and Richard truly look like they were out of touch with reality. She was dating Logan Huntzberger, a boy known to have multiple girlfriends and a party life. I mean, really! I get they hated it happened under their own roof, but it was to just have it so Rory started realizing that living with her grandparents was really not what it was cracked up to be. Of course, completely dropping out of school over being told by said's boyfriends dad instead of you know, changing majors or just going to school part time made more sense than a full drop off: "I suck and I'm not good anymore" Rory we got. I completely understand a parent trying to hold a child's privacy if you think they are trying drugs or sneaking something they shouldn't. I hold that right if I come with it down to my own kid. My mother admitted once she worried about me back in high school and even looked at my room once, but didn't find anything except for a hidden playboy. Which she laughed at. She didn't tell me until a few years later, but I got her point. That was a dark time in my teenage life and one I don't look back fondly on due to the depression I had at the time. I completely got my mom's view then. Especially because she did it just once and later once with my brother years later and only discovered he was playing more M is for mature video games and that was the end of that worry. Emily came off to a point like she was looking for hard core drugs or something else. It painted her as more irksome and then the pastor who came in to talk to Rory about it. It was too much, like Emily and Richard were stuck in the 1940s.

I hate when TV or movies do that with technology. I have a degree, I'm a tech teacher and seeking a PhD in Instructional Tech. It was so beyond stupid and a troupe. They even could have forced power off on their device. Going to the Apple Store, oh come on! Do these writers live in 1997 or something?