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Party of 3.

I have to say, Mrs. Readster and I are looking forward to seeing this too. I have to agree, everyone has aged well, and I'm happy Danny actually finally remarried since Jeff Franklin didn't want that happening during the run of the series. Because it would "Destroy the foundation of the series", of course later on he admitted that they made a mistake in doing that. Since Vickie was a fan favorite and everyone loved her interaction with the characters and how they missed tons of stories with having Vickie as the girls stepmother and even Jesse's reactions to having her as a sister-in-law. Hopefully, they won't make that mistake twice. I see this how they have done Girl Meets World. There is going to be cheese and things that make you go "OK", but in a good way.

I know what you mean, its like the man doesn't age, like Dean Cane. Not that Bob Saget and Dave Coulie don't still look good for the ages, but really, Stamos remains unchanged by time. They even made a joke about it during Disney Land's 60th last night.

What if Lorelai has another daughter now. She is busying being the sole owner of the Dragonfly. Balancing the death of her father, her new little girl he demands her attention and her daughter back on her doorstep. That would be an upheaval for sure. Lorelai might have Luke, but he is busy running the dinner all the time and then comes home from work tired and she gets no breaks. I don't know, could be interesting.

I don't see, even with the flashbacks and various history visits and what we saw with Lorelai as an adult if she would have been like Logan. Probably having fun, using the Gilmore name and money to party up and enjoy. However, I don't see Lorelai stealing. Playing tricks sure, but not the extent of getting maids fired or people in tizzies over missing items. Lorelai has done some stupid stuff, but she did know the different between right and wrong and going to far. Of course, that never seem to come into play when it was to messing with Emily. I mean, a wedding planner fired because she had to mess with the seating plan. Because she wanted to annoy her. The testimony she did when the one maid sued Emily. Plus, getting herself with giving the property check to Emily so she wouldn't feel obligated to Friday Night dinners anymore. Lorelai didn't think of consequences of her actions. While Logan did, he had sone enough to the point where he knew what the results would be or would get bailed out as a result. Lorelai wouldn't have done LADB. She would have messed with Emily's fundraiser, but would have stopped when she saw good people getting fired because she has to annoy her mother. Logan, it took almost dying and his relationship with Rory to finally get his act together.

How very true, and from what I understood from Honor, she probably enjoyed some partying herself, but unlike Logan, she didn't go to the extremes he did. She probably enjoyed the occasional kegger and was aware of the family business. However, she wanted her own goals and ambitions and not that she probably didn't hear she needed to keep the Hutzburger name. However, I did hate she didn't even try to defend Rory after being belittled both both his mother and grandfather. To where Honor went: "You should talk mom?" or: "I'm glad there is no pressure on me (sarcastically). I'm to the point where AS-P's over view of how the rich or DAR worked and so far removed from reality. That when we wanted to see Rory get knocked down a peg that she wasn't perfect or that Emily and Richard needed a reality check on how the world was. It came off as so ridiculous or stupid we not only rolled our eyes but also went: "How stupid are you?" Followed by: "Yep, just keep living in your bubble, hey water is wet."

They also brought that up when Rory said that both Mitchum and his dad were part of the LADB. Followed by Logan saying: "Yeah, but then they grew up and went to do business and have a family." Yet, Logan acted like the life wasn't for him, when he would have to work for money eventually. Plus, how his mom and grandfather hated Rory from being from the "wrong type of family" which made no sense. Since his mom was a former dancer and apparently the grandmother wasn't ivy league either. Plus from what both Richard and Emily knew, they were both cheaters and liars. Hence they couldn't believe they would belittle Rory so much since they got where they were through marriage and being told they weren't good enough. So it came across that the entire Hutzburger family were hypocrites who just happen to fall up to success and then judged others when they came from not so amazing backgrounds like say Richard's family or even Emily's. Who lived in that life style since day one and took responsibilities and kept going through business and society practices.

Hey, Harry the Hardware guy owns a club now. Always enjoy seeing former HI cast members on LMS. I actually enjoyed this episode, but once again, Ryan over reacts to everything. Especially when Kyle made the comment about his friend and Ryan thought it was Jesus. The main problem with Ryan, his atheism is because his mom was apparently religions, yet she divorced his father after almost 20 years of marriage and doesn't even try to know her only grandchild. Yeah, it is so old and its what the writers think that a hippy type like Ryan is in real life. When it couldn't be farther from the truth. I do agree, Boyd needed to not pull that crap with his aunt and future uncle. Of course, I hate the kid that plays Boyd.

With the mother being the most impossible and wouldn't change her attitude and no one once told her: "Shut the hell up!" I've said it before, I hated when they had Mrs. Kim yelling at people to either buy something or get out. Or yelling at them and she had the perfect plan for her daughter. Those were moments that made me cringe. Despite when they had her interacting with other characters about their parenting skills or town events. Those were scene I enjoyed with Mrs. Kim or when she finally started working with Hep Alien with their booking deals and other things. Plus, being supported of her daughter's marriage to Zach and being pregnant. I enjoyed the final few seasons of Mrs. Kim instead of the cliche super bitch Christian Business owner they had her in early seasons. I just wanted smack her though when it was revealed she had been hiding her life from her own mother. Who was a traditional Korean Buddhist. Lane and Zach saw it, but neither went: "She's a hypocrite!" Which would be another cliche on its own.

Then Chris married Lorelai and Emily and Richard cared about the one happy little family </sarcasm directed at the Gilmores>

Oh I know, but as we know that AS-P likes to exaggerate characters and Straub come across a someone most people would avoid.

Oh Luke, I love you still. I'm surprise he doesn't say: "No social media while eating." The MAN BUNS part just cracks me up. You the man Luke Danes! Never change.

Of course Straub would be dead a few months later, but for Francine, I wouldn't had a problem with her. When she was on screen, she either tittered to Straub's ideology had very poor opinions. I know that AS-P was trying to make her Emily without the weird showing of love, but really, that woman made me hate her every time she was on the screen. Straub was no prize either and his look at life put Emily and Trix's to shame all the time. I hated Chris's parents more than him and you then wonder why he ended up the way he was.

Same here. It was a good comeback and made sense for someone at his age and what he has been through.

I completely agree or if E/R would have done that once Christopher went to be with Sherry. Because in one small sense, Richard seem to give up then too. With him telling Emily that Chris was finally doing "the nobel" thing and then walk away. I think that was when Richard finally let the old plan die, only for it to return years later. When Emily told Chris to leave in the season 3 premiere. I was all on her side because I think Emily was putting it to bed too. Then of course Wedding Bell Blue happened and destroyed all of them with some very half ass philosophies that still don't make sense to this day.

Which has been Owen's philosophy on everything since the character first showed up. "What happened in Afganistan?" Owen: "We don't talk about it." "Why do you want kids so bad?" Owen: "We don't talk about it." "What happened with your sister?" Owen: "We don't talk about it! Wash, rinse, repeat, I would fire his sorry ass! Of course I could see him at a new hospital: "What happened at Grey Sloan?" Owen: "We don't talk about it."

As a collector, I completely agree. This is also up there with the juice box incident back in season 3, the expensive couch that Kirsten Johnson kept magically walking back to in her sleep along with ice cream and other junk food. Or with Mitch just happening to walk into a spider web and his comic falling out of its protective sleeve where the tape just magically broke into a puddle of water. Or how about the doctor this past season who had his car towed and then came back to the same park some how in a span of 2 hours. Or Haley originally getting kicked out of college because she tripped and fell on a cop who just happened to be walking by and it was called assault. There is comedy and then there is everyone taking their stupid pills to make the plot work.

That's exactly it, it makes Owen look like a complete moron. This isn't Derek and Mark 2.0 here. You understood why they had the falling out and over more legit reasons. Here it makes Owen come off as: "I have to hate someone for her death, so I will blame you, even if it wasn't your fault and we just magically end up working together." Something else about how everyone said that Grey Sloan isn't a place where miracles happen, but of death and destruction. I want to add its also the place where people who screwed you in life or you haven't talked to in years will magically show up at your door step because they need "healing".

I could so see that being the case that SF is Emily's protege and inheritor for the DAR and is basically Lorelai of that world. Of course, this is funny, my wife and mother-in-law recently became friends with a DAR for our chapter who is a GG fan. She ended up saying: "Too bad they will get the DAR completely wrong when the show comes back like they did before." I laughed hard at that one.

How true and also AS-P said in an interview that the best characters never learn and that she knew of children who had parents that weren't married because they had them in their late teens or early 20s and then finally got together or married ten or fifteen years later. Which, I could believe, my brother and one of my sisters had a friend who's parents had them mid way through college by accident and then got married when their kids were almost finished with high school. However, they said their grandparents dropped them getting married after about three years. Saying: "Well, some people can have babies, but that doesn't mean they wind up together." Yet, for most of the Gilmore Girls run it was: "Chris and Lorelai should be married even after their daughter was in their 20s and both of them had either serious relationships or had other children by then." Because: "They will be successful as a family that way." Oh shut up!

That lined always pissed me off and why I ended up really putting the hate on with Chris. He let Emily call him that, not to mention basically dismiss Georgia in the process. Plus, her line about how Lorelai would be "successful" with Chris. I wanted to go: "Excuse me?" "Do you even see what you daughter is doing?" I keep seeing that Emily in some half-assed view wanted Lorelai to be like her. Running DAR parties and fundraisers. Worrying about keeping everything check. Firing maids because they had a hair out of place, ect. I really mark that scene as when Gilmore Girls started going downhill because Emily became like Trix and never realized it. Plus, the entire plan that Chris wanted to follow that plan. Well, nothing stopped him for trying a few years later after Rory and Lorelai were out on their own. He could have tried then too, but he didn't. There comes a point, that life happens when you are busy making plans and you can't dwell on something two 17 year old kids did not thinking compared to 20 years later. One thing that AS-P seem to have with all her characters, they never let anything go and moved on. Except for many Jess.

I could see that for sure. From: "Don't let one person's critizism make you say: "To hell with it all." Or with Paris, "don't let one disappointment be because the universe is against you for doing one natural thing like sex or feeling everything needs to be perfect."

Phil on a hoverboard will comedy gold and they are actually having Claire admit, she has no experience running a company or how they all hate her. Yet, have to accept it since she's the boss and maybe has some good ideas. I also get Jay's reaction, but really, I have nothing to really say about this episode. It was funny, and Manny even saying: "This never turns out well." Funny how points out how things have never worked out for both Jay and his mother. Yet, no one tells him, that no one cares about his activities or anything and he still does it. Pot meet kettle.

Completely agree on all of that. E/R gave a lot more to Chris than his own parents did and never once did I see Chris go: "I wish you would have been my parents instead of Straube or Francine." No, Chris was constantly told by his father and even his mother that Lorelai and the Gilmores were his downfall from grace. Instead of them trying to be supportive or telling Chris to try to take a step back and get his life together. They took almost every chance to harp on the crap Chris was given and that it was never his fault, but they never gave him any sound advice or said: "It's your own damn fault, so either accept them and move on or not." However, while both Emily and Richard admitted that they wanted to kill Christopher several times from getting Lorelai pregnant to even him being absent from Rory's and Lorelai's life. They gave him so many oppurtunities or cheered him on and no once did Chis say: "Thank you for always believing in me." Instead it was: "Well that's great, but who cares what you think?" Yet he couldn't say something like that to his own parents. He told Lorelai and Rory and even Sherry many times he would have still dropped out of college or had his string of low paying jobs until he met with his friends and started their business together. I also loved how his grandfather gave his entire fortune to Chris becauase: A) His dad had died and the grandfather apparently didn't like Francine. B) Never did once tried to get to know his two great granddaughters, but hey, he loved Christopher his only grandchild. So, um... OK. C) Really, it was never Chris's fault, it was everyone else's and the only person who ever had the balls to let him see how much of a jerk he was, was Luke. Who both told him off and finally gave him a punch in the face that critics and fans said that was over due by over 20 years.

You know, that would make complete sense. The school I used to work for had alums who had amazing careers post graduation come speak to the current graduating class. In fact, they had been gone a good 8-20 years before coming to speak at the school. I could so see Chilton doing this with Rory and even trying to score some alum donations in the process. It also could be the headmaster retiring and Rory comes to party too along with Paris.