ShellsandCheese

Do you mean Sochi?

Truthfully. I would hope nothing is addressed until all the facts are out and that the focus is on the men competing; none of whom have anything to do with whatever is currently happening behind the scenes.

This story just doesn’t make sense. Did she test for something before the Olympics? During the team competition? And Eteri is a lot of things but not stupid; I find it hard to believe that she would be this sloppy…….also wouldn’t KV have been tested throughout the season? What are the odds that if she is taking something, the coaches would have just started giving it to her? Wouldn’t it have shown up before? I feel bad for KV though, she’s 15 so whatever is happening, it’s likely outside of her control. It will be interesting to see what happens; it would just mind boggling stupid for if Eteri just started giving KV a banned substance, especially at a time when Russian athletes are all under such intense scrutiny. Does anyone know, were there any positive tests for Russian athletes during the summer games last year? ETA: I heard this from a friend who lives in Russia, but is not Russian. I don’t know if it’s true. RE: KV “The sample in question had been taken two months ago, the drug trimetazidine was found in one single sample in December. A minuscule amount. Nothing in her samples before or since.”

Nah. They'll find a way. LOL. And once the American ladies catch up we will never hear about these concerns again. A lot of the sentiment around here is just clearly anti-Russian and not out of actual concern for any of the skaters.

I feel like this show would have worked better if it was just about the behind scenes intrigue. Board members and administrators jockeying for power and trying to get their guy or gal the position as chief. Like I just don’t buy Sam or Griff as Chief material, let alone doctor material - but I could buy them as hospital administrators who are battling each other to get big donors and whatnot.

I would imagine the same thing that happens in all sports, they either rise to the occasion are they get overtaken. The world is full of former (insert sport here) phenoms who were relegated to footnotes because someone faster, quicker, more athletic, etc etc etc came along. That’s not a phenomenon that is specific to Russia or reserved for young female skaters. Personally I think competition is great and I necessarily need to see the same person win and dominate for a decade to enjoy something….. And let’s be real outside of maybe Yuma Kim, Michelle Kwan, Carolina Kostner, and maybe Eugenia, women’s figure skating has been a revolving door for some time. There’s been a new OGM every Olympics since 1992! Sarah Hughes didn’t stick around very long, ditto Tara, Shizuka, Alina, Oksana….. Also, while there is a lot to critique and dislike about Eteri and her methods; rooting against someone like KV simply because Johnny and Tara are annoying is certainly a choice, lol. As if she has any control over two over enthusiastic and slavish American commentators.

I’m still pissed that Trusova is skating the long for the team event and not Anna. Anna is the reigning world champion and the three time Russia National champion and they go with Trusova? The hell? Anna’s long program at Euro’s was really good.

I loved Oksana’s free skate, it’s one of my faves. Nancy was the better technical skater but under the old scoring system artistry was given the upper hand over technical merit. Nancy didn’t just deserve gold because the media was hounding her. It’s fascinating reading stuff from the 1994 competition explaining how Baiul won: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1994-02-27-9402270251-story.html https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/27/sports/winter-olympics-the-judges-judge-says-baiul-deserves-the-gold.html

This so much. Also, the MAN in MANG are basically high school Karen's. LOL. Especially Max and Abby, the are going to be insufferable white women tear types, they are already pretty much well on their way if not already there. I hope season two explores Ginny's desperate need to be liked by and receive approval from white people...the friends she chose, the teacher, it's all too much.

Brianne Howey totally reminds me of a young Julia Roberts! She's great. I am also oddly enough really starting to like Paul, especially his scenes with Austin. Austin is in desperate need of someone to spend time with him and be a parent to him. Georgia is really dropping the ball when it comes to Austin, and I feel so bad for him.

Ginny is a very unlikeable character, and Antonia doesn't have the acting chops to go toe to toe with Georgia/Brianne. I also despise the tortured biracial (mulatto) plot points, especially since the show refuses to go deeper and examine why Ginny is having issues. It's partly her parents fault - people having children with people of different races and cultures and not equipping their children to navigate that and have pride in all of their heritage - and it's part Ginny's fault. She seems to be mostly disconnected from her black father, and completely disconnected from her black grandparents, and has made little to no effort to expand her friendship circle to include black people her age (and there's a few in town) nor does she seem to be trying to educate herself.

I don’t think the teens drinking and having lots of sex is an accurate representation of the current reality. Study after study the last decade or so highlights just how little teens are having sex, drinking, doing drugs, etc. This show and Euphoria are shows made by adults and this is what they think teens are like but reality is different.

Georgia is trash. Using her kids social security number to get a credit card. Nope. “Parents” who do that are gross, just slightly better than the ones who abuse or neglect their kids…..

Sadly enough, the relationship between Lex and Rob could be interesting because the actors have great chemistry. I just don’t buy Sophia Bush as Chief of anything and her performance/speech in that board meeting was absolutely laughable, unrealistic, and unprofessional.

Run the World is on STARZ but I think you can add as a channel and do a free trial. It’s really good, there’s also Vida on STARZ about two Latina sisters and it’s very good too. Vida was just three seasons and all three are available. Run the World aired their first season this past summer/fall and has been renewed for a second season.

It was good! I like that it was very different from Run the World - but I really like them both. Meagan Goode is beautiful but she really should have re- thought that eyebrow transplant.

Right! He should be banned from Australia for lying - he could also get 12 months jail time, which I would love to see.

RE: Gordeeva and Grinkov. They had already won Jr. Worlds, Soviet Nationals, Euros, and were two-time World Champions by the time they competed in Calgary. They turned Sr in 1986 - two full years before the 88 Olympics and ended up winning two more world titles and another OG. All this to say - I wouldn’t lump them in with the others on this list, lol. I hated Sale and Pelletier’s Love Story program. I hated it the first time around and even more when they brought it back for the Olympics.

I have an intense dislike for Jeremy O. Harris so my biggest gripe with the second season was his presence, lol. Season II was a definite improvement over season I and also a natural continuation. I hope season III explores more of Sylvie and Laurent’s dynamic as he is clearly still so in love with her - and she is in my opinion the most interesting character on the show. And the best dressed, lol. Side note, Emily is not interesting enough to have everyone fawning over her. I was cracking up when Luc was like she’s the best and Julian was like she’s alright, calm down. That’s I how I feel. Like she’s so basic but perhaps that’s the appeal. My prediction for season III, Emily follows Allie to London (and it obviously) does not work out and then she ends up back in Paris with Sylvie and gang. And Sylvie could have absolutely done what she did as long as there was no no compete clause.

LOL. George Lucas basically borrowed the plot from Dune to create Star Wars.

The finale was a bit underwhelming. So happy for Molly and Kelli though.

Sarah Snook does not have a big butt, nor is she fat. She’s a smaller than average bottom heavy pear shaped woman.

This show! BIG was still alive when Carrie found him and she did nothing. She didn’t call 911, didn’t get his pills, $20 says there was an AED in the building……in other words BIG didn’t have to die and the whole thing seems contrived. And I really hope Carrie doesn’t end up reconnecting with an ex (Aiden). I think I’m out.

Exactly. People don’t understand that the whole structure of sports in Russia is totally different. It’s not like in the US where so many talented skaters and skaters with potential don’t even get a shot because their parents can’t afford it. Honestly, I don’t find the current Russian domination of women’s figure skating all that shocking. The groundwork was laid in the late 90’s/early aughts; they’ll dominate for while and they’ll force everyone else to catch up - in the same way that people caught up with the US when it comes to mens and womens figure skating and in the same way folks caught up to USSR/Russia in Ice Dancing and Pairs. I said this in the Olympic thread and I’ll say it again here too, while I am American I don’t automatically root for Americans. And when it comes to international sports - I always want to see a great competition! I want to see the very best compete and hopefully then see the best win - I could care less if they are American, French, German, Japanese, Togolese, etc etc

I enjoyed this episode and I love that there was no assistant soccer coach - although I have a better understanding of Whitney's relationship with him; she clearly has daddy issues. Also, while I understand that Kimberly is not as well off as the other three (apparently); she isn't poor. And I hate that the show was making it seem as though she was. I would imagine that her family is probably solidly middle class; she lives in a relatively low cost or average cost city/state and her dad was a manager at a major pharmacy chain.