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One of my friends said it's impossible to for single parents to date and do both well. What he meant was if you are a single parent and you focus more on your children your dating life will suffer and if you are a single parent and you focus more on your dating life your children will suffer. I was a single parent up until my son was 6. I didn't date much. I had to find a babysitter which wasn't always easy. When I became involved with the man who eventually became my husband I introduced him to my son before I normally would have because it was easier than to always keep my home life and dating life separate. We saw a little bit of what it was like for Miranda as a single mother dating. It isn't easy.

Miranda needs to ask herself if she would be leaving Steve if not for Che. I don't think she would be. This thought has crossed my mind. Maybe they will do a time jump at the end of the the final episode and we will see Miranda and Nya together.

They weren't thinking. That is the problem.

All true. A single man in his 50s has a wide dating pool. He can date women in his 20s if he wants. But single women in their 50s don't have a lot of choices. We can go older but like you said you run the risk of them having health problems. We can go younger but depending on how younger you go you run the risk of them wanting children eventually. Women in their 50s no longer look like the Golden Girls. We do look like the women on AJLT. We are still vibrant and fun and not quite ready for the assisted living facility and I'm disappointed this show didn't do us justice.

And selfish because usually the other person will still want that particular item for themselves.

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I had a male friend tell me his long term girlfriend refused to give him a blow job anymore. He said her excuse was she didn't have to. I guess she really did consider it a job.

Yes I wanted dating and not a relationship. I think in my age group (45-60) there is difference between what women want and what men want. Where I live (in a small town in a rural state) single women my age who are single don't want to be single. I was the only single woman in my circle of friends and family. And I was only single because my husband died. The women here are looking to find someone to settle down with again. Men on the other hand are not. They are looking to sow whatever wild oats they have left. I do think there needs to be a show about people in their 50s and how different things are now.

I watched Three's Company when it originally aired. I was barely a tween and didn't get a lot of the jokes. When I have seen episodes as an adult I cringe because I get the jokes now and they aren't that funny. Soap on the other hand I still find funny. I like to watch them because it takes me back to different time when I was younger and life was easier.

I found it baffling too. But I guess I can understand there are some people who so badly want to be part of couple they will try to hasten things along. Back in the day that used to be called dating someone. Or going even farther back going steady. Sadly I think nowadays it's either people hooking up or people living together/married. I'm single and I like being single. I will never marry again but for awhile I was looking for someone to do things with. And men weren't interested in that. They were down for hooking up but hanging out and doing things like dinner or watching a movie were out of the question. Dating isn't what it used to be.

You are right. When Miranda commits to someone she expects the same commitment back. She wasn't open to that because she doesn't want to have anything to do with Steve. They share a child and probably one day grandchildren. Steve isn't going to just disappear but Miranda is acting like he is a bag garbage she can put by the curb and not have to deal with again.

I have a done rewatch (sometimes multiple times) of just about every show I watched from the late 70s/early 80s to now. And I have never done a rewatch of Seinfeld. I watched reruns of course before there were streaming services because what else was there to watch? A friend and I once discussed if we thought Seinfeld was well written and we both agreed we didn't think so. We thought Frasier was well written. But we thought Seinfeld was just built around jokes. It's a classic show for sure but I don't think it is one of the best sitcoms ever.

Miranda from SATC would never agree to that however Miranda from AJLT very well might. She is so gaga for Che I can see Che telling her look this is who I am and either you accept me as I am or this isn't going to work and Miranda might say yes of course whatever you want. Yes, if it wasn't Che I think it would have been someone else. And I might not have had a problem with that. If Miranda had met someone (like Nyla) and it started off as a friendship and feelings grew I would have said OK I can understand that. But I still would have expected Miranda to tell Steve before anything happened.

That pretty much describes Carrie and Charlotte on SATC. Charlotte was more open about that but Carrie was doing it too. I'm 53 and things started to change when I was in high school in the 80s. I had one friend who got married right out of high school but other than her looking for a husband didn't take precedence in most women's lives. I think with social media being such a huge thing now I think for a lot of people (especially women) being part of a couple is really important. Even if it's just so they can have their status as in a relationship. I have done online dating and I had different men tell me they have only talked and texted with women and the women believe that constitutes a relationship. It's things like that I thought AJLT would explore about women dating in their 50s. But instead we get vomit and Miranda losing her fucking mind.

So I guess she is perfectly fine with the character assassination of the character she has played for the better part of 25 years. I don't for one minute believe the writers would have written this story for Miranda if Cynthia Nixon hadn't come out and left her long time male partner for a woman. The writers just dreamt this up? Sure Jan. I agree with you but the writers think they are taking Miranda on this wonderful journey. In my view it's a journey to disaster but we shall see. I think Miranda does think she is being "woke" by leaving her white hetero husband for a non binary activist. I think for her this is less about being gay than being part of movement. But of course if you ask her she is going to say she is head over heels in love with Che. I can only speak for myself but my problem with this storyline is how selfish Miranda looks. She cheated on Steve without a second thought. And the hypocrisy. She was devastated when Steve cheated on her. But after she tells a devastated Steve she found someone else she runs off to be with that someone else. Just all around not a good look for Miranda. I said this earlier. I find both of them just so unlikable now.

My definition of an open relationship is both people in a relationship are allowed to have sex with other people. Couples can have their own rules regarding that though. Such as not having sex with people they know or not having sex in their house. I have a good friend who was what used to be called a swinger with her husband. Their rule was they could only have sex with other couples.

There is a reason soap opera children suffer from SORAS.

Me either. Although I disliked him slightly less. I liked the show but I was always hoping they got caught. I loved Stan and was rooting for him to catch them.

What she means is we don't know how to write Carrie as anything other than a woman being defined by having a man in her life.

It would be great if they had a pre nup and what was his and what was hers before they were married was still theirs. Which would mean Steve has the bar and Miranda has.......college tuition to pay? Their house would have to be sold or one would have to buy out the other. Knowing these writers Steve will be gracious and let Miranda keep the house and probably continue paying the bills.

Yes. Weiner knew not all the characters were going to be well liked. He even had the main characters do things that make them unlikable. But like you said we didn't question it because you understood why they did what they did. However with AJLT we get this I always thought of SATC as character driven. I would say AJLT is plot driven but what I'm seeing is barely plots. How about AJLT is woke issue driven?

Yes. They all had flaws. They all made mistakes. But we understood them and forgave them because they were true to their characters. What makes it so maddening is MPK and two of the writers (Eliza and Julie) wrote for SATC. They on some level have to realize they have written such awful stories. It seems the only actress MPK ever disagreed with was someone other than Cynthia Nixon. You know that might not have been a bad storyline. Big is arrested for some white collar crime, maybe insider trading or whatever, his assets are frozen and Carrie has to support herself.

It was just so unnecessary though. Would the show have been so casual with full frontal female nudity? I liked her too. They could have made her a bitch who looked down on Carrie for being older but I was pleasantly surprised they didn't do that. I am afraid of this too. Obviously this is what Cynthia Nixon wants. I have to say it really bothers me that they have utterly destroyed Miranda's character because the actress portraying her wanted to tell her story. If CN wanted her story told then she should wrote a book or made a Lifetime movie. If not for this truly awful story AJLT would have been so much better. It still would have a bunch of problems but it would have been tolerable.

But would Cynthia Nixon allow that? I mean we can all see what should be coming but if she had enough influence to insist they tell this storyline will she let it play out what would probably be the most realistic way? I agree Miranda shouldn't stay in a marriage she no longer wants to be in but she acted like Steve's feelings didn't matter at all. And let's not lose sight of the fact she only told Steve because Che insisted she do.

I got married in my early 30s. Became a widow in my early 40s and now I am happily single in my early 50s. Things that were important to you in your 30s aren't always what is important to you as you get older. Depending on how Carrie comes out of her widowhood we might see her grow and become a more independent secure woman. Charlotte seems to be the same. But Miranda has just regressed so much. As I said on a previous thread she isn't in love with Che. She is in lust with them. She was unhappy in her marriage and was looking for an escape hatch. If I was writing this show I would have her realize that and not return to Steve but tell Che she needs to find herself before she can be with someone else.