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Tyler is doing a large amount of sponsored posts recently. He's definitely becoming an influencer. I was also a little surprised to see his recent interview where he talked about his erections during the Bachelorette.

I'm pretty sure she kept her daughter a secret from most. That's why the bad guys didn't go after her.

I forgot about both of those. I think Travis probably has had the longest lasting success. Did Jesse Palmer play pro football? I wonder if the Bachelor helped or hurt him when it came time for that job. I also forgot about Jojo's pick, Aaron Rodgers' brother? Jordan? He is a host on the SEC Network now, but he wasn't a lead, and he was the quarterback for Vandy, so that was probably inevitable.

I can't think of a single bachelor that is universally liked. If Tyler did the Bachelor, and made out with different women multiple times per show, people would hate him too. I haven't really seen it help the guy's long term brand the way it has the Bachelorettes. Several have had HGTV shows, Ali was on E!, etc. Has that happened for any of the bachelors?

Haley has said she followed spoiler accounts and that’s how she started to figure out something was wrong. Hannah has stated that she is not interested in being an IG influencer, which, honestly, I don’t get. I also think they were naive to think the paps weren’t going to catch them.

Hannah says in a People article that the relationship had already started to struggle when she found out about Haley, in part because she confessed that she was still struggling with letting Tyler go. He apparently needed lots of validation, which is interesting considering you could see he had absolutely no interest in convincing her that he loved her. He has been on social media liking posts that criticizer her and his friends posted a video of their watch party where they were bashing Hannah. He is the actual worst.

I agree, but I do see where she would panic since she'd already sent Tyler home. There are cameras everywhere. I really think it just goes back to a lack of maturity. Too bad. She missed her chance to make it actually dramatic.

She said in an interview today that she was still torn right up to, and including, the moment that Jed proposed. She said she had an an "oh no" second, but she had made her choice by that point and didn't know what to do. She said in her mind Jed was the safe choice and Tyler was the scary choice. That makes me think that it all goes back to her insecurity. She BEAMS whenever she's with him or talking about him, but I would be SHOCKED if anything ever comes of it.

Jedd didn't even look like he cared enough to argue with her during the "break-up." She was also way too calm. She had definitely already dumped him. There was no Hannah Beast. I agree that she should have said she made a mistake. I watched an interview with her today and they asked her if she considered choosing Jedd as a mistake. She said she didn't want to say that since she grew up as a person and it made her realize she wants a husband but doesn't need one. I get that, but she could say that she was grateful for that realization while also saying that she should have chosen Tyler to start with. He did not look like someone that is interested in her, to me. She definitely looks interested in him. She was all giggles and huge smiles on Kimmel and on GMA when talking about him. He does not look like that to me.

Peter has responded to his ex-girlfriend's claims. He basically says that he cared about her way more than she cared about him, and he broke up with her when he realized it, which does seem to fit with some of the stuff I've read about the screenshots of texts she released. https://www.realitytvworld.com/news/peter-weber-denies-ex-girlfriend-claims-he-dumped-her-go-on-the-bachelorette-26242.php

I don't disagree with any of this, but how much control does she have over the actual dates? I don't know the answer to this because I assume so much of it is budget driven.

I think what makes her stand out is her absolute lack of filter and awareness. She posts videos on IG of her dancing in hot pants in mismatched clothes and the apartment or house that she is in is an absolute disaster behind her. For many of them, they've never seen anything like her. She is hot, she's loud, and she's beyond goofy. She falls down. She snorts. It's probably fun for a while. Would it get old sooner or later? Probably. She definitely likes to have things her way, but that's not that different than most of the leads we've seen on this show. Don't forget Emily.

It's actually really gross to me. And sad.

I remember when Amanda (she's the one that dated Josh Murray, right?) was in court with her ex-husband because he was asking to reduce his child support payments. At the time, she was living with Josh Murray. They had to reveal their monthly income. She was making 30K a month. Josh was bringing in 10K a month. 40K a MONTH in combined total income because they were on this franchise. That's insane. Now, I don't know that either one of them are still relevant, but that blew my mind. If nothing else, it could create a nice nest egg. The really smart ones, like Ali, turn it into a career. How long ago was her season? Now, she's got a podcast supported and marketed by ABC. ETA: Woof. I just looked at Amanda's IG, and I wish that I had not.

Where did I read that you have to have 500,000 followers to be an IG influencer? Was it here? He only has 300K. So, that plan is not going to work out for him. Tyler has over a million. I suspect that Hannah, who has over a million followers as well, is about to make some IG bank. I could also see her getting her own reality show. She doesn't need a man to take care of her, and I liked that she said that. However, she also does not need Jed. It makes me sad that she likely chooses him because she is insecure and afraid that Tyler is too good for her, but in listening to her insecurities, and letting them guide her decisions, they lead her to the very thing she was afraid of in the first place. Whether I like her or not, that is sad to me. She posted a story of her in her green room eating cookies shaped like windmills.

I think this is the problem with Tyler. She has admitted that she's insecure. She sees Tyler and how amazing he is, and she really just can't accept that he is as really into her as he says that he is. She doesn't believe that she deserves him. So, she pushes him away in the fantasy suite and she's made up her mind that it's Jed. She may have even planned on taking Luke to the final two if not for her total meltdown. Can you even imagine his reaction if he'd made it that far and then lost? If she choose Jed, and then finds out about the girlfriend, I wonder if she'll ask Tyler for another chance. I also wonder what Peter was whispering in her ear. Twitter has been brutal and hilarious tonight. She's usually pretty active on social media on show nights, but she has not been tonight.

She picked that guy that was the doorman on The Real World, and they were broken up by the time of the ATFR. ETA: Jerry? Didn't she pick him at the final rose and then say on the ATFR that she wasn't into him anymore? Must research now.

Yeah, I realized that when I was searching online for information. I read today that Tyler is likely the next Bachelor. Supposedly, BIP will probably prevent Mike from being the bachelor. I wonder if she feels so stupid now picking Jed over Tyler.

I really hope she picks Tyler. I hope Reality Steve is wrong for once. I rarely care what they do, but he seems genuine. I hope maybe she picks him, or maybe they get back together? I don't know. All that stuff about GiGi Hadid and Demi Lovato following him and flirting with him on social media makes it unlikely, but still. I feel like she really wants to pick him but is afraid, and she sabotages herself. That's sad to me.

In the "real world" it would be unimaginable to sleep with two other people mere days before becoming engaged. But, in The Bachelor/ette world, it is extremely common. Anyone that goes on this show should know that. I have felt this way all the way back to Brad and Emily. I think he slept with the other F2 and she never forgave him for that because he was telling her he loved her. I get it. I really do. Normally, when two people are in a serious, committed relationship, it wouldn't even be a question. But these two? They are not in a serious, committed relationship. They barely know each other. He knew exactly how this show worked and what he signed up for when he came on. There is no excuse for now getting upset at the way the show has worked since its very inception. I believe Trista and Amanda (how do I even remember that?!) both slept with Alex. It literally has been this way since it started. I was one of the few that didn't blame Nick Viall for asking Andi about it on the ATFR. He specifically asked her not to sleep with him if she wasn't going to pick him. To me, that's a different story, and I do feel that any F2 that has sex and then isn't chosen has the right to ask questions. But Luke isn't F2 and he wasn't involved in any actual sex, soooo..... Now, after all that, I will say, that the very format I have been defending is also probably a lot of why few of these relationships work out. It would be very hard to get past your significant other sleeping with multiple other partners days before he/she asks to marry you.

LOL. No. I go all the way back to TWOP. I had some trouble when the board switched to primetimer from previouslytv, but I've been here a looooong time.

Peter's ex is a model. I really think it's as simple as that. She's getting a ton of publicity, and probably a lot of IG followers. She probably saw all the publicity Jed's ex got. Her name, and her band's name, has been everywhere. I don't think it's a big deal that he broke up with her months before he went on the show. I think it shows more respect than dating her up until the day he left. That post about her current BF now being warned because she released private texts? That is for sure the truth.

Joe Morton says there’s a chance and he’s encouraged people to tweet @abcnetwork with #savewhiskeycavalier

I read on Twitter today that Netlfix is looking at Whiskey Cavalier. On Netflix, there is a page where you can suggest shows that you would like Netflix to pick up. Many users are going there to suggest WC. I don't have a link, but I just googled "shows I want to see on Netflix" or something like that and I got there. Also, Christ Evert the tennis player and William Shatner have been tweeting for someone to pick up the show.

THIS! It was such stupid motivation and it made me angry. She should have told GIbbs. She should tell Gibbs now. She won't though because she is dumb. I didn't her character at first. Remember when she sat on the floor and ate junk food and was an analyst? Now, she's morphed into just another agent. She makes the show worse for me. ETA: I assume that Tony knows that she is alive and that they are together. That's why they called him and couldn't get him and he never called back.