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YW 😊 I'd go so far as to say I think it can reasonably be inferred everyone in the Solloway family knew the truth once Helen confessed. I doubt Stacy and Trevor would keep something so major a secret from Martin and Whitney... even though informing them wasn't shown on the series.

I think a lot of people who want Helen to take the blame (not you), forget that there was no guy in the road to hit until Alison pushed him into it. In one of the two views of the accident that killed Scotty we hear Alison saying I pushed him. In a very recent episode 9? Noah referenced the incident 4 times talking to Helen! One of them during the me too accusations. Something about being punished for a crime he didn't commit and not doing that again and 3 other mentions, which I thought was strange given the timing. People seem to forget that he took the blame for Helen AND Alison. Had everyone come forth and told the truth about their part in Scotty's death some responsibility would have been laid at Alison's feet. It would have been a factor.

In that same episode Diane12251 referenced Helen's parents heard her confession because she was telling Stacy and Trevor that she killed Scotty Lockheart. (The older two were away at school). Later in the same ep. at a bar in Montauk she thought she was going to confess to Alison who stopped her and said she already knew. Noah told you? asked Helen. Then Alison told Helen she'd pushed Scotty into the road because he tried to attack her where they were standing on the side of the road. Helen was saying we have to go tell Cherry (Scotty's mother). Alison said she would not go with her to Cherry's and that it would serve no purpose.

There IS an explaination for that. Originally posted by Stad15 in Speculation / Series as a whole

When Noah and Whitney went to Montauk to plan the wedding, they ran into Luisa at the L.R. and I thought she told Noah they'd divorced or were split up and Cole and Joanie were leaving for Vermont? He went to try and say goodbye to Joanie and found an empty house

I hate that she settled for Noah too. I just thought of something... Noah would likely be haunted by doubts about how he measured up to Vik. He'd wonder whether Helen would really have chosen him and gotten back with him if Vikram were still alive. Noah would have a turn experiencing the same kind of hurt and self doubt Helen described on the way out of the canyon. His own children shunned him because of what he'd done to the family and preferred to spend time with handsome young Vikram the doctor. I was kind of surprised in Vikram's recorded parting words to the Solomanders he said he'd been in their lives 8 years. That damned timeline again

there have been 23 motions filed on this case this was the most recent I found looks like one has to purchase this most recent document 12/ 20 /18 https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6123631/30/alexander-v-possible-productions-inc/ Alexander v. Possible Productions Inc. Order of Automatic Referral to Mediation — Document #30 District Court, S.D. New York Docket Number: 1:17-cv-05532 Date Filed: December 20th, 2018 _____________________________________________________________________ Looks like it's a little over a year since Possible productions Inc filed a motion to Compel Arbitration and stay the action, or, in the alternative, to dismiss the complaint. https://pospislaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Alexander-v.-Possible-Productions-Inc..pdf UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK --------------------------------------------X ASHLYNN ALEXANDER, Plaintiff, 17 Civ. 5532 (DAB) MEMORANDUM & ORDER v. POSSIBLE PRODUCTIONS, INC., et al., Defendants. --------------------------------------------X DEBORAH A. BATTS, United States District Judge. On July 20, 2017, Plaintiff Ashlynn Alexander filed a Complaint against Defendants Possible Productions Inc. (“Possible”), Showtime Pictures Development Company (“Showtime”), and Travis Rehwaldt, asserting claims for sex discrimination under the New York City Human Rights Law (“NYCHRL”) (Count 3) and for retaliation under Title VII (Count 1), the New York State Human Rights Law (“NYSHRL”) (Count 2), and NYCHRL (Count 4), stemming from her work as a body double on the television show The Affair. Defendants filed the instant Motion to compel the arbitration of Plaintiff’s claims or, in the alternative, to dismiss them. For the following reasons, the Court DENIES Defendants’ Motion to Compel Arbitration and DENIES their Motion to Dismiss. Case 1:17-cv-05532-DAB Document 24 Filed 10/04/18 Page 1 of 16 2 I.BACKGROUND A.Allegations Relevant to Employment Discrimination Plaintiff alleges that she was employed by Showtime and Possible from October 2013 to September 2015 as a body double for the character of Alison on the television show The Affair. (Compl. ¶ 36.) Rehwaldt was an assistant director on the show and was allegedly Plaintiff’s supervisor. (Id. ¶¶ 37-38.) At the end of filming each day, all cast and crew members received a call sheet, created by Rehwaldt, which listed each person’s role and a detailed schedule for the next day’s work. (Id. ¶ 39-40.) Generally, the call sheets listed Plaintiff’s role as “Alison Body Double.” (Id. ¶ 42.) Plaintiff alleges that on September 17, 2015, she received a call sheet (the “Call Sheet”) from Rehwaldt describing her role as, “Alison Sexytime Double.” (Id. ¶¶ 44-45.) Defendants have attached the purported Call Sheet to their Motion to Dismiss. (Declaration of Mary Eaton (“Eaton Decl.”) Ex. F.) That document lists Plaintiff’s name under a column entitled cast with her character listed as “Alison Double” in the column next to her name. Lower down on the same sheet in a section entitled “Instructions,” the Call Sheet says: “MAKEUP/HAIR: Alison sexy time Double. Sc. B: Noah’s Jacket.” (Id.) Plaintiff alleges that she felt humiliated after receiving the Call Sheet because she thought it reduced her to a sexual Case 1:17-cv-05532-DAB Document 24 Filed 10/04/18 Page 2 of 16 3 object. (Compl. ¶¶ 45-47.) The day after she received the Call Sheet, she met with Rehwaldt to complain of what she felt was sexual harassment. (Id. ¶ 48.) Plaintiff told him that he had sexually harassed her, that his actions humiliated her in front of her coworkers, and that she was concerned she would not be paid properly for her work the day before. (Id. ¶ 49.) Rehwaldt allegedly admitted that the language he used on the Call Sheet was inappropriate but also told her that she could be replaced easily. (Id. ¶ 50.) Plaintiff did not complain further because she was allegedly afraid that she would lose her job. (Id. ¶ 52.) On September 24, 2015, Plaintiff allegedly “received notice that she was no longer needed” on set for The Affair. (Id. ¶ 53.) When she asked for an explanation, she was allegedly told that she did not have a good hair match with the actress playing Ashley and that the show was looking for someone else to fill her role. (Id. ¶ 54.)1 Plaintiff thought that this explanation was untrue because she had been wearing a wig for the duration of her work in the role without issue and because the actress hired to replace her in the role also allegedly wears a wig. (Id. ¶¶ 55-56.) 1 Plaintiff does not explain who told her this in her Complaint. Case 1:17-cv-05532-DAB Document 24 Filed 10/04/18 Page 3 of 16 there are 13 more pages to the court case. link above https://www.thewrap.com/the-affair-body-double-sues-claims-she-was-sexually-harassed/ The Affair’ Body Double Sues, Claims She Was Sexually Harassed Woman says she was referred to as “Alison Sexytime Double” on call sheet Tim Kenneally | July 21, 2017 @ 11:54 AM Last Updated: July 21, 2017 @ 12:41 PM A woman who says that she worked as the body double for Ruth Wilson on the Showtime series “The Affair” is suing the cable outlet, claiming she suffered sexual harassment and was canned from her job after complaining about it. In the lawsuit, Ashlynn Alexander — who says that she served as Wilson’s body double from October 2013 until September 2015 — says that an assistant director on the show referred to her as “Alison Sexytime Double” on a call sheet, an apparent reference to Wilson’s character, Alison Bailey. Typically, the suit says, Alexander would be referred to as “Alison Body Double.” Also Read: Sean 'Diddy' Combs Asked His Chef to Rate His Naked Body, Sexual Harassment Lawsuit Claims “Ms. Alexander was humiliated. She takes her career seriously and knew that everyone working on ‘The Affair’ read the call sheet and would see her reduced to a sexual object,” the lawsuit, filed Thursday in federal court in New York, reads. “Ms. Alexander was singled out and demeaned in front of everyone she worked with on set,” it continued. According to Alexander, when she confronted him [the assistant director] about the reference, he “admitted that his language on the call sheet was inappropriate and then belittled Ms. Alexander, stating that she could be easily replaced.” Less than a week later, in September 2015, that’s what happened, the suit alleges, as Alexander was sacked. Also Read: Fox News Orders Sensitivity Training for All Employees After O'Reilly Sexual Harassment Scandal The suit claims that Alexander was told her she was let go because “she did not have a good hair match with Wilson and ‘The Affair’ was looking for someone else to fill her former role” — which doesn’t make sense, according to the suit, she “had been wearing a wig for the duration of her work as Wilson’s body double, without issue.” As a result of her alleged treatment, the lawsuit says, Alexander “became lethargic,withdrawn and depressed.” “It is difficult for Ms. Alexander to approach potential jobs with the same enthusiasm and ambition. Ms. Alexander is afraid of the next possible situation where she will be harassed and humiliated,” the suit reads. “Ms. Alexander now suffers from a high level of anxiety which has negatively influenced the level of confidence that she has in her ability to perform her job.” https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/showtime-says-affair-actress-shouldnt-complain-being-called-a-sexytime-double-1053230?utm_source=twitter October 31, 2017 7:54am PT by Eriq Gardner Showtime Says 'The Affair' Actress Shouldn't Complain About Being Called a "Sexytime Double" Fighting a lawsuit from a body double hired for the series, the network's attorneys try a 'Dunkirk' analogy. Showtime's lawyers apparently didn't get the memo that this would be a good time to treat sexual harassment claims with extra sensitivity. Check out the arguments being presented in a lawsuit from Ashlynn Alexander, an actress who was hired as Ruth Wilson's body double on the The Affair. Alexander claims she was fired after complaining of sexual harassment by an assistant director on set. Specifically, Alexander says she was humiliated when a call sheet described her as "Alison Sexytime Double." Seeing herself reduced to a sexual object, Alexander voiced objection. A few days later, she received notice that she was no longer needed for The Affair for the alleged reason that she was not a good hair match with Wilson. Alexander, who says she wore a wig for her role, is now suing for retaliation and discrimination. On Monday, Showtime and Possible Productions brought a motion to either compel arbitration or dismiss the complaint outright. The defendants see the objectionable description as completely appropriate. "To the extent the Call Sheet refers to 'Alison sexy time' at all, that reference appears in the 'Instructions' portion of the Call Sheet, which contains detailed instructions on props, sound, set dress, location, hair, and makeup, the purpose of which is to ensure that the set and actors are made up appropriately for the scene about to be filmed," states the defendants' court brief. "It would make no sense, for instance, for an actor portraying a dying soldier on the beaches of Dunkirk to be dressed up for a fashion show, freshly showered, clean shaven and coiffed." Showtime then adds that Alexander "can therefore scarcely complain that the hair and makeup instructions in question provided that the Alison character be made up for 'sexy time' when the scene in question involved intimate close-up shots of Alison engaged in simulated sexual intercourse, particularly when that was precisely the scene for which Plaintiff was hired." The defendant also includes as an exhibit the "Nudity and Simulated Sex Rider" that Alexander allegedly executed when agreeing to the role as body double. Later in the court brief, Showtime argues to the judge that Alexander hasn't adequately pled the elements of a discrimination claim. The cable network's attorneys at Willkie Farr & Gallagher write, "Leaving aside the utter implausibility of Plaintiff’s contention that she was 'humiliated' by the reference to 'Alison sexy time' in the instructions portion of the Call Sheet, the Complaint does not allege any facts from which the Court can infer that the phrase 'sexy time' was included in the Call Sheet because Plaintiff is a woman." (Italics are used in the court brief.) Showtime says the dispute deserves to be arbitrated because Alexander's daily hire contract contains a broad arbitration provision, but if the judge doesn't accept that, the defendants are additionally arguing that Alexander's complaint to her superior wasn't sufficient to put producers on notice that she was engaging in a protected activity. It's added that Showtime and Possible Productions owed her no additional employment once the filming of a sex scene concluded.

Oh ok. Things make a little more sense then. I couldn't believe Cole stayed away from Montauk that long. ... but then I forgot they changed just about everything about him!

Noah talking to Joanie said when he and Cole saw each other they both just about had a heart attack. Did they say where that occurred? The LR maybe? The only one who should have been surprised was Cole as he lived in Montauk most of his life. Noah buying a year round place there would be the surprising development. Absolutely no mention of Noah asking how Joanie was or if she lived there with Cole might he bring her by next time or anything that normal people would've discussed. If Noah moved to Montauk right after Whitney's wedding and he and Cole ran into each other during the past 30 years... I'd assume Joanie lived with her father until she was 18 or 20 at least? So Noah would not be just meeting adult Joanie now having not seen her growing up. Like how would that even be possible? Did anyone catch how many years Cole and Joanie spent in Vermont? I got the impression it was not all that long before Cole returned to Montauk. Sometimes I wonder if new writers were brought on board this season who didn't really thoroughly familiarize themselves with the first 4 seasons. Like maybe they watched it through once and their attention was diverted at times. It's maddening.

😄 😊 😋

ALL OF THIS! I'm just aghast at what they did to Cole's character It's like Cole (J.J.) bailed from this sinking ship and Treem + the team decided to bitchslap punish him every single time he was brought up. No mention of Cole this entire season except for when Noah told Joanie he always thought Ben killed Alison and admitted to a grudging respect for him bore the slightest resemblance to the Cole Lockheart we knew in seasons 1-4.

thank you

What book was Joanie reading in The Lobster Roll?

She also does it with "Mawn Tauk"!

You get that I was making fun of the way Whitney said "awp tics" while she was being horrible to her mother right? 😄 Thank you I missed Helen asking about little Eddie...must have dozed off.

Oh definately, I can talk about TV series I watch with all of you here! 🙂 I meant a forum where the conversation can just naturally flow wherever it goes without breaking any rules. I'm not scoffing at the rules either, if the subject matter wasn't confined to that that has to to with the TV show and the episode being discussed we'd have thousand page threads and no one could ever catch up and join the convo.

Six Feet Under set the bar (very high!) against which all series finales will be judged. You can almost feel it in the air that other writers and producers want to stop short of absolutely copying it.That finale was extremely well done and I can't hear that song Breathe Me by Sia without tearing up! I said upthread that I own In Treatment on DVD (and I don't buy DVD's). I own one other series, Six Feet Under!

I just signed up here a week or so ago, but I've really enjoyed the discussions! Over the years I got heavily involved in 2 forums where I posted for years and both died out to make two long stories short. Does anyone know of any lively forums that are open to all?

Yes! Cole would have NEVER told Joanie they were better off without her(Alison)! Did I actually hear that? I'm going to have to listen to that closely when I re-watch the episode. I too, will miss discussing the series with you all! I was reading a season 2 thread looking for something and ran across Sturm und Drang* and had to look that up. I'm conflicted about this finale. I got teary-eyed during the Helen / Noah scenes which I guess is because the actors are just so damned good. I've always wanted better for Helen and have never believed exes who've gotten to this point would make their way back to each other. I have a feeling when I watch it again it's going to anger me more. Just like last week. I also agree that Alison seemed like the one who often didn't seem present in the moment rather than Helen. The timeline stuff drives me batty too, so I've decided not to waste my time trying to figure it out. I thought of Noah saying there was a month to plan the wedding, then Furcat asked Whitney what were you doing in Montauk in December. Colin's mum was arriving at 10? (or was it 9?). So was that a.m. or p.m.? Because in January I'm pretty sure it's dark between 4:30 and 5:30 in the afternoon in Montauk. A poster here pointed out to me the other day that Alison is supposed to have died in 2021. However I always thought Noah's prison sentence was 3 years. Was it actually 5? All of this just makes my head hurt and it never ends up making sense. I can't believe how much I used to enjoy True Blood with Anna Pacquin. I enjoyed her in a movie set in the 70's called Free Ride and Almost Famous has long been a favorite of mine, but I'm sorry, she is awful in this.The whole Joanie the coastal engineer her family and the look into the future as as well grown up Eddie (E.J.) and the Ben nonsense added nothing to this series as far as I'm concerned. Also Libertarianslut you are so right; the whole Janelle / Carl story line didn't need to take up so much of this last season of The Affair Spin them off or something because they were just as compelling as other characters we see on TV, but it all just seemed weirdly out of place here...just as so many other random characters and incomplete story lines did. Plus their story wasn't done any justice or resolved here anyway. Being as it was part of the season, I can accept Joanie receiving info from E.J. just a little bit easier now knowing he spent some time living in Montauk and working for Noah. I was never going to buy Helen his next door neighbor in California whiling away the hours talking to little E.J. about Alison and Alison's first in-laws meaning Cole's family. Even if Noah ended up moving into Helen's house, by the time E.J. gets to the age to be reading novels I just don't see E.J. becoming obsessed with Lana the the character based on Alison and her supposedly traumatic life. Though it still doesn't explain why he was hanging out in the cemetery. I don't like that Noah ended his days walking around the Lobster Roll where he met Alison. It does almost seem like some sort of slight to Helen and a tribute to Alison. Risking an old man with dementia getting pneumonia or worse, drowning was ridiculous. It would have been a very different wedding if I was writing this show. As soon as Whitney answered Helen's question why am I here ... if this is how you feel about me? with "awp tics it would have looked terrible. I didn't want any empty seats" . I, the videographer would have been long GONE! and I'd have taken my dress with me! Whitney's personality is trash start to finish! I give poor Colin 6 months. Why was Sierra there with her director as her plus one? Did we ever hear Sierra and Whitney exchange so much as one word? Was she there because they all had to escape the Ca. wild fires? If so where was little Eddie? *a late 18th century German literary movement characterized by works containing rousing action and high emotionalism that often deal with the individual's revolt against society. [in German it literally means storm and stress]

I know it basically means diligent / hard working (like Whitney saw herself on her terrible day at work), but now I can't remember who said it and in what context in this episode? __________________________________________________________________________________________ Anyone here "resilient" enough to relive this trauma by watching the marathon run up to the finale? Put me in the camp who fast-forwards past the theme song. I'm over it despite liking Fiona Apple. I was over that whole of the moon song by the end of the episode too.

Cole and Helen were good! Ok, I'll stop 😄

Thank you for this Preeya! I was wondering what last name was on Helen's headstone. As she'd gone back to Butler, should we conclude from this that she and Noah remarried?

I just recently ( in the past few days) read that it was In Treatment that was based on an Israeli show. I took notice because I have that series on DVD. One disc is in my computer right now because we lost cable last week and I re-watched it. here's a link to the article: https://www.haaretz.com/life/television/the-affair-wins-big-at-golden-globes-1.5359176 "Treem created the show with Israel's Hagai Levi, who created and directed the highly acclaimed Israeli TV series Betipul, which was adapted to become HBO's Emmy award-winning "In Treatment."

I started reading the ep 11 thread and realized I forgot to watch at midnight!

how many can you count? 1 Did Noah ever see Joanie again after moving to Ca when she was 6 or 7? 2 Did Noah lose his teaching job? 3 If Noah doesn't get screenwriting credit for the movie made from Desent, does he stay broke? 4 Did any of the 6 women bring civil suits against Noah? 5 Did Helen sue when she lost the job with the design firm run by the crazy millenials? 6 Will we find out for sure who E.J. is? 7 Who will raise baby Eddie James? 8 Did Sierra escape her domineering mother? 8 a Did Sierra kill the role of Madame Bovary and become a star in her own right? 9 Did Janelle win the Board of Education office she ran for? 9 a Did Carl and Janelle get back together? 10 Did Sasha Man's step daughter ever get... nevermind. no one cares where has Martin been?