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Not sure either but I was happy for a candidate with 0 chance to win because it ups Orange's odds in that category. Ha.

Really good piece in the LA Times today about what Orange's nominations mean for the tv landscape especially in re: women that touches on a lot of the topics that get discussed in various threads here: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/tv/la-et-st-emmy-critics-notebook-20140711-column.html On how the presence of women can actually impact genre: On the demand for women to be "likable":

I think I laugh more at Orange, especially season 1, than I have at Modern Family in a while. The premium subscription services tend to turn out comedies that are less obviously half hour sitcoms IMO, so this line will only get blurrier I think. Shameless ran as a comedy, too. And Jenji said she always had this "problem" with Weeds. I guess I'd call it a "dramedy," but that's not a category, so I'm happy for it to take its pick and bring a bit more gravitas to what has always felt like the weaker of the two major Emmy fields. But then I also don't have much respect for traditional network sitcoms, most of which I think kind of suck outside of NBC's Thurs night lineup. ETA: Actually there's a little interview with Jodie Foster about her nomination that touches a bit on her approach in re: the show's unique genre: http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/jodie-foster-directing-career-orange-is-the-new-black-emmy-win/

I think I saw a couple of her real-life prison friends congratulating her on Twitter for yesterday's Emmy nods. Ha. Cause at least one of them was like, "who'd have thought, back in Chicago..." Kerman seldom fails to point out how fortunate she was to be going into prison well-connected. I don't have the link now but I saw a recent interview with I think NBC where she said she was lucky to be a poor target for sexual abuse from guards because they knew she had a lot of people on the outside who were very active in her life and came to visit her frequently. She said the guards tended to prey instead on women who didn't have a lot of outside resources [not financial, specifically, but in this case more social.]

I think Aduba is the front runner. She was the only one of the three I saw most critics predicting for a nomination [though some did mention Laverne Cox as a dark horse in the race]. Most critics I've seen still think the Emmy is Julia Louis-Dreyfuss' to lose, and while I'm a fan and love Veep I kind of hope the voters are in the mood for some fresh blood. The girl doing the live broadcast today for Yahoo who covers TV as her beat said she thought Taylor had the best chance to unseat her. Netflix must be beside themselves. 31 nominations in all. And Orange was grabbing most of the headlines in today's recaps alongside True Detective and Game of Thrones. God it'd be really nice to knock off Modern Family for best comedy. I loved it once but it's kind of gotten tired IMO. Orange seems to have way more heat at the moment, but if anyone's immune to heat it's Emmy voters... Nice interview here with Kate Mulgrew about her nomination: http://www.eonline.com/news/558631/orange-is-the-new-black-s-kate-mulgrew-on-her-first-emmy-nomination-and-more-star-trek

This is Orange's first eligible year for the Emmys. For season 1. [That's why Wiley, Toussaint et al weren't nominated]. Natasha tells the NYT she thought she was being pranked when her manager called her to tell her about the nomination, but "for some reason" she believed Taylor when she called her to congratulate her: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/10/2014-emmy-nominations-natasha-lyonne/?_php=true&_type=blogs&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0 And Taylor's reaction: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/07/10/taylor-schilling-emmy-reaction/12474367/?AID=10709313&PID=3753211&SID=17189hw8lpblx Cute. I'm so happy for them, they all seem so excited. ETA: Taylor talking to EW about her nomination: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/07/10/taylor-schilling-orange-is-the-new-black-emmy/?hootPostID=0f212265b9e36e9e321d281305f6e030 The cast celebrating adorably: http://www.hitfix.com/comedy/the-orange-is-the-new-black-cast-toasts-their-emmy-noms

8 Emmy nominations in major categories for OITNB: Best comedy, best actress for Schilling [only rookie of the 6 nominees in that category], best supporting for Mulgrew, best guest for Lyonne [yaaaaay], Adubo [expected and deserved] and Cox [interesting!] Also best direction for Jodie Foster and best screenplay for the pilot. It also picked up additional nods in smaller categories--the only one I remember off the top of my head being best casting for a comedy. ETA: I guess the final tally has Orange leading all comedies overall with 12 nominations! Guess that genre switch was a good call. Here's the complete list of nominations for the show: http://www.emmys.com/shows/orange-new-black

Let alone Chord. Ha.

Yeah that's actually what I meant when I said "what's their agenda here?" I was thinking more along the lines of vaguely right wing propaganda about a govt out of control than appeasing viewers' blood lust. Because there was no dystopian overreaching govt in the book, and personally I roll my eyes pretty hard at shit like that.

Gold Derby expects Orange and True Detective to lead all nominees on Thursday for the Emmys. From their lips to God's ears: http://www.goldderby.com/news/6763/emmy-nominations-predictions-orange-is-the-new-black-big-bang-theory-entertainment-news-7129583604.html

No worse than Jenji's oft-trotted out Trojan Horse one [and that horse is dead, Jenji. Stop beating it.] ETA: Guess it's not really a spoiler since I guess technically it's casting news and he did just tweet it, but sounds like Pablo might not be in season 3 at all [and that was likely given his role on an upcoming HBO show]--

This is kind of cool--Laura talks acting [like more about craft and process etc] with NYC Castings: http://www.nycastings.com/dmxreadyv2/blogmanager/v3_blogmanager.asp?post=laura-prepon-shares-her-acting-secrets#.U7xDbGuq45w.twitter And a pretty good chat from Vulture with Kate Mulgrew about season 2 and working with Touissant: http://www.vulture.com/2014/07/oitnbs-kate-mulgrew-on-the-season-2-finale.html And another Vulture interview with the actress who plays Fig: http://www.vulture.com/2014/07/orange-is-the-new-black-fig-interview.html

Lea and all the male characters. Lol, sounds awesome. If you're Ryan Murphy or a 13 year old girl. I am looking forward to the ratings though.

I think the smoking is meant to be off-putting and even a mild act of civil disobedience (much as their weird stalking behavior is) so I think the world of the book is meant to have our modern attitudes about smoking, they're just flouting that.

Which is why they probably should have left the book alone and made the post apocalyptic rapture show they wanted to make without it, IMO. Because the book basically just uses it as a metaphor to explore loss in the modern world. 6 seasons and a movie! Probably not.

In the book (and I feel I can say this since we're already past this point on the show) the Feds just calmly arrest Wayne because he's a charlatan fucking underage girls. There's no shoot out, there are no dead teens. It makes me wonder what the show's agenda is with that. Tho it does just have a general vibe of "let's butch this up a bit," starting with Kevin, who's the sensible, calm, mild mannered mayor in the book. Apparently someone thought the proceedings all needed a bit more testosterone poisoning.

They were filming a Nicky backstory [presumably] with Natasha today around Times Square. ETA: And today in Astoria. The fact that Nicky is getting a backstory to apparently right before she landed in prison suggests to me they're following up on where they left her with the hidden heroin.

But do you want to watch that as a tv show? Sorry, I guess I should just take my bitterness over what they did to this book and go. I should have known the show would get all bogged down in some smoke monster esque speculation about an incident that is water under the bridge in the book.

Taylor sits down with Vulture to discuss season 2, Prepongate, cockroaches and shooting Piper's white privilege rant: http://www.vulture.com/2014/07/taylor-schilling-orange-is-the-new-black-season-2-chat.html

I just love the fact that obviously someone's notes on the book were "NEEDS MOAR VIOLENCE." Because the show's importing all this crap to be edgy, I guess. Neither teens nor packs of dogs were gunned down in the book.

And they all tell the same story: the people went *poof*. I still don't know what there is to study, really, besides pouring over millions of identical eye witness accounts.

Jesus Christ, are they still on the dog killing? Of all the fleeting lines in the book, why did they decide that should get a whole subplot on the show? Didn't HBO learn its lesson from Luck?

They were there and then they weren't. What is there to study, exactly? There's no physical evidence. I mean, I'm sure they would have tried because they had to, and would spin their wheels for 6 months, but it's a complete non-starter. So 3 years on I would fully expect them to have completely given up.

Nora does say that, but that's not an explanation in any way, IMO. Except an explanation for her guilt and inability to heal.

Yeah I still don't think it's an issue really because I thought they made it pretty clear she got her taste from her boyfriend Ian and the fact that it's an affectation on her part is kind of the whole point ["Bitch, you were born in '92," Maritza tells her the first time she waxes on about "How Soon is Now."]