CindyBee

Good luck to both Katie & Michelle--I hope it works out for both of them. They should binge watch the last season of the Bachelorette New Zealand to see how to be a great lead. Not only does Lexie's season have great New Zealand locations, it has a happy ending with not a unrealistic proposal but just a promise to date in the real world and 5 months later, they are still happily together.

It started over on Reddit. She never really hid her social media presence and as people delved back into her likes and posts, they came across some that were questionable. Then one poster had access to the "Old South" party photos and posted them (with all the other girls' faces crossed out) and it took off from there.

I"m thrilled that Emmanuel is going to do the "After the Final Rose". And hope that he can become the permanent host. If you get a chance, watch his interview on his Youtube channel with Rachel & Bryan about inter-racial relationships. Its really good.

Katie reminds me of Jillian; hopefully her picker is way better than Jillian's and doesn't end up with an Ed.

I wonder with the the Kappa Alpha order ball photos now out there if Matt will be encouraged to pull a Mesnick (and Ari) and dump Rachael and either become single or ask for another shot with Michelle? Whatever is coming its going to be a big ole mess.

Can someone get Ivan's poor brother a portable fan as the sweat is just pouring off him.

I know RS spoilers have been a mess--must have lost his main crew member spy with the smaller group at the LaQuinta but I do think what he posted today could happen: Brendan "leaves" cause he's not ready, she chooses Zac as a default, they have since broken up and she's now working things slowly out with Brendan. Guess we'll see next week what has really happened. I for one am more interested in Matt's season than Tayshia's even though she has a great final 4.

I've read the engagement was on day 12 of the season but of course Clare wasn't with Dale the whole time.

I'm guessing 12 hours total. Usually final ones have 2 one on one dates, home town date, fantasy date and last chance date that adds up to about 36 hours so Clare & Dale are about 1/3 of usual time.

I think I'm going to watch the rest of the Clare/Dale show with one eye so I'll see y'all next Tuesday for Tayshia finally getting to meet my TeeVee boyfriends.

I need a producer to get Benoit on the phone and talk to Dale ASAP!

So many cute guys this season that we know nothing about cause we had to spend hours on Clare/Dale/Clare/Dale/Clare/Dale.

Jason is the only one who should be upset as he's the only one who has spent any time with her. And she made him confess his sins to the whole wide world

Wait, they are getting engaged after knowing each other for like 15 hours!?!?

Poor Canadian Blake not realizing how "in love" Clare is!