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A little? ;) The last episode...just wasn't good. I didn't even like Brent Spiner's voice cameo as Data, because Data wouldn't be confusing colloquial phrases or whatever like that at that point in time (that was a nice nod/joke to Data's development in "All Good Things"). Everything on both the ENT and TNG side of things was just off. Or bad.

Oh snap! //immediately sets DVR Thanks got the heads up, Silver Range. I am legitimately over-excited for this, lolololol.

I was watching "Misbegotten" over the weekend, and while I know I've seen it before, I really was having one hell of time following it this time around. I sought a recap, and I'm still not sure I've gotten it entirely. So...the victim's brother-in-law was trying to kill the doctor/researcher who claimed to have found a "gay gene." Was he also trying to kill his sister-in-law? If he wasn't trying to kill her, wasn't he surely risking killing her by bombing a building where she worked as a security guard and delivered packages to the offices? *And* she was one of gay-gene-doctors subjects, so must have often had appointments in that office? So there were a couple of ways him sending that bomb (which was supposed to set off a much larger explosion than wound up happening) could have easily killed her? At the end, the victim's father was going to alibi his daughter's killer (well, she wasn't dead but only had a minuscule chance of recovery) and let him go unpunished, when he hated the guy before any bombs were planted, so that his son-in-law would agree to abort his grandchild and only connection left to his comatose daughter, because the baby might have the gay gene if such a thing exists? So the bomber's father, brother, and brother's father-in-law were all truly so anti-gay that it's better to commit attempted murder, THAT TOOK OUT THEIR DAUGHTER-IN-LAW/WIFE/DAUGHTER, than to maybe have a potentially gay kid in the family? Were we supposed to believe the victim was of the same mindset and was likely to have had an abortion anyway, or why was she participating in this doctor's study and wanting to do comparisons between her fetus and her gay brother-in-law? And didn't anyone hear the part where no reputable scientists believed the gene existed, much less that it had been found? Maybe it's just me, I found it all very confusing this time. And boy, was the victim's colleague a Grade-A jackass for the two seconds we saw him. Was he really laughing at a pregnant woman who was carrying boxes around while he sat there?

YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES. I've gotten to the point where I actually try to pay attention to where I place the remote when I settle in to watch TV now because I don't want the embarrassment of hurting myself LUNGING for it whenever the Honda chime dings or when the, IMO, absolute WORST of those Liberty Mutual ads starts -- "You loved your car. You named it BRAD." I mean, they all suck, but I literally can't listen to that any more. Same with Honda. All the singing ones are awful, but the "Crazy in Love" one is going to be the death of me, or someone else, depending on whether my rage is suicidal or homicidal once I finally snap. LOL.

Well it does seem that the "rules" and/or archetypes for Everlasting, which were really highlighted in Season 1, are just out the window this year. I mean, "EverBlasting"? With bikini parties (well, bikinis all the time) and obstacle courses and...whatever on earth it is Chet and Jeremy were trying to do? Quinn's shrieking about "TRUE LOVE" and "ROMANCE" and "WIFEYS" may be over the top (and often fun), but it did used to have a point...the show, as messed up and crazy and unfair and whatever else it is behind the scenes, needs to put out a entertaining and wild show that still promised romance and fulfilled what are thought of as traditionally female romantic fantasies. About getting the "prince" or the great guy, about winning his heart despite there being a dazzling array of other women to choose from because you're just that beautiful, talented, charming, whatever. About having a "magic" connection so intense, it still forms and wins out during a literal competition in front of the world. The show is better when its examining those tropes, poking holes in them (behind the scenes), exposing the cost of maintaining them (both for the contestants and the suitor and those behind scenes, such as two women who'd prefer "money-dick-power" as their ethos), etc., etc. What any of that has to do with Chet's man-show nonsense, OR the suitor potentially being unfairly KILLED as part of a racial-profiling set-up, I have no idea. But this is where we're at in this episode and in Season 2 generally.

Just wanted to say, that for R & C to expect this and think it's not a "too bad" worst-case scenario for someone who can easily be PARALYZED from it...well, that alone, aside from the immensely willful blindness that would have to be the case for them to think that was the worst that could happen? That, in and of itself, is horrific. And, well, the show seemed to take the stance that withholding Mary's pills and outing Faith were wrong generally/morally and potentially bad for the show in the end. Shay didn't seem to know/care what the potential outcomes were for not only swapping out the pills, but bringing back the ex too, and everyone flipped out when she admitted what she'd done...but Rachel seemed very KEENLY aware and very concerned about what "worst-case scenario" might befall Faith (and as bad as it certainly could/would have been, I'm not sure being instantly shot/injured/wrongfully arrested was in the cards for that one). But siccing some cops on unsuspecting black guys driving an expensive and reported stolen car to "see what happens"? Why not?

They probably thought so, but I'm not sure there is, or ever has been, a good time for a "let's have two black men get the cops called on them due to the very expensive car they are driving being falsely reported as STOLEN so a couple of white people can see what kind of footage they might get for their meaningless reality show, and then those same white people can experience the PAIN -- not of a possibly fatal bullet, not of a debilitating and possibly paralyzing back injury being aggravated, but of how terribly they're all up in their FEELINGS" story. That's aside from the fact (as others have pointed out) that while maybe our showrunners and writers weren't fully aware of what has been going on, um, forever, but certainly the last several YEARS...saying they hoped it'd be "dated" six months from writing this drivel is ignorant and dumb to the point of being offensive. Are police brutality/killings just a passing fad to the folks at UnReal? Is six months is honestly long enough in their minds that by the time the episode airs it won't be such a "hot topic" any more? They can exploit the hell out of it and people won't be so worked up about it? It'll all be solved and finished and people would be like, "Wow, remember that time, in like January 2016, when police shootings/killings were like, a thing? Man, this episode is like a time capsule!" COME ON.

I've been hanging on by my fingernails this season, watching each episode days after it aired, and only after spoiling myself -- last year it was appointment viewing once I found it, and I didn't want ANY spoilers. So I haven't watched last night's episode, and I won't, and I won't watch the rest of the season. I can't believe this is where this show has gone so quickly. They should be &%$^-ing ASHAMED of themselves, from top to bottom. Though, hey, they really did hope it would be, like totally outdated by now! I mean, who didn't expect this country to resolve all the issues caught up with police brutality in time for the second half of UnReal Season 2? And, well, they did let a black guy yell at Rachel, so, you know, that covers that angle of a white woman setting up black men with the police! Isn't that what it's all about in the end? I mean, whether the black guys wind up dead, seriously injured, paralyzed...well, how IS poor Rachel doing!? Damn. I guess not all shows stay winners...

I was soooooooooo waiting to see her! Ah well.

I definitely thought she had! So the way she was acting was just nervousness about getting caught with the stash?

I don't have particularly articulate thoughts formed yet, so... -- Get Piper the living fuck off my screen. Please! -- SHOOT HIM, DAYA. DO IT! (Or someone, anyone, please.) -- I know I'm supposed to feel bad for the poor, poor guard who had the misfortune of killing Poussey, and however he will live with it for the rest of his poor, poor life, and how the system totally, like failed him too. But I don't. mostly because his inappropriate responses to the situation KILLED HER. I mean, I get it, there's nothing more to be done for Poussey, she's just as DEAD whether he keeps his job, is fired, goes to jail himself, so hell, why not try to do right by the poor, poor guy, so his life, which, you know, isn't OVER, isn't so unnecessarily ruined. I mean, think about it! How did he live, having to watch the other guards make Suzanne fight her girlfriend almost to death, while doing nothing until telling Caputo the next day? And all those racist searches of the Latina (and occasionally black) prisoners he had to conduct? And whatever else I might be forgetting. Don't forget all HIS suffering and pain just because there might be an instinct to worry about the women actually having this stuff DONE to them, or you know, DYING. WTF-ever. Drives me crazy, in fiction and reality. -- I liked Alex this year, and wish she wasn't back with Piper. I wish she had continued interacting more with Lolly, but I guess she had to be the sacrficial lamb of the dead guard story. Earlier in the season, I was actually quite worried she wouldn't survive, so I'm relieved she did, but dear lord...the psych ward. :/ -- How can Nicky possibly have three years sober? -- I thought Red was awesome this year, Gloria too. I needed more Chang. -- Thank goodness Sophia is out of the SHU and about as well as she can be. Good for her wife sticking to it until that point. -- Of the flashbacks, I really enjoyed Maritza's and Blanca's the most. I was never a fan of Healy's, but since he chose to get himself help, I feel better about seeing them in retrospect. Poor, poor guard's utterly unremarkable flashbacks didn't do it for me, even by the end of the season. -- Reminder: Damn, Morello is crazy! -- Taystee as Caputo's assistant was pretty awesome. Did they say what that prison job paid? I hope well (and not just in illegal watches). -- I'll never believe in Caputo again...last time was when he got Sophia's picture out. But that's over. -- I don't know what to make of Doggett/Rapist. Other than, yay Boo! -- I'm beyond devastated about Poussey. I thought it was a great, great season.

It is literally impossible for me to agree more with this.

Dear God in heaven, I'm right next to you. Let's do this! And I like the Murphy Brown idea a lot. I loved that show. Never watched Evening Shade, but the suggested reboot sounds so much like a CBS show I'm amazed it hasn't already been done, lol.

In a way, I think the way they're handling Paige is part of Phillip coming close to the end of his rope with his work, and with starting to so highly value honesty (through EST or whatever), almost too much for the job he does. He reached a point with Martha where he simply could not and would not lie to her at all any more, even when it was almost certainly in everyone's best interest that he do so. If he can show Martha his face and tell her his actual Russian name and that he's KGB when she asks, I don't think he's much in a frame of mind of feeling he can't be similarly honest with his own daughter when she knows so much already. He was also pretty open with...was his name Yousef ("I feel like shit all the time")? And the Kimmie operation is clearly giving him a lot of second thoughts and feelings about how he deals with Paige. Yes, saving Martha and the long "vacation" have cooled the temperature down a bit in terms of Phillip freaking out, but I feel like he's just crossed a line in his head (or maybe his heart, or both) where keeping things from Paige is no longer the instinctive, at-all-costs priority. Also, now that Paige has seen Elizabeth go 100% assassin, that ups the overall trust factor too and reduces the need to lie about certain aspects of things. And maybe accelerates how they'll (I assume) eventually tell her more fully about their work, either because the Center will possibly start making demands about Paige again soon, or just so she's better informed and can be more careful or whatever. I don't know...it's seems kind of human to me that they're not dealing with this 100% hard core as either spies or parents, and haven't figured out what kind of mix between the two they want to land on. Their strong reaction to Paige reporting back on Matthew and suggesting that she work him says that to me. I've kept secrets for a long time (and nothing like what P/E have, lol), and once it's out, it's sometimes hard not to naturally let your guard down and relax a bit about it. It's like, right before it comes out, you can't even CONCEIVE of telling, talking about it casually, etc., but once you start and you let the secret go (and, importantly, you're able to manage the fallout, whether it's better or worse than you feared), it changes the whole nature of things. Now, P/E obviously still have to be careful in a lot of different ways, and they need to keep Paige on-side even with the risks that might entail -- and who knows what they'll do with Henry -- but the way they're trying to feel this out for themselves and their daughter isn't too surprising to me.

You got that right. And I'm younger than her!

Agreed on both counts...This show and "Awake" are the shows where I really wish the showrunners would give a detailed accounting of where they would have gone at least for the next season if not in a more overall sense. Sigh. Also, I kind of wish that the John in this series was more like the T2 one than what was, IMO, a more typical angsty teen. Whether John was supposed to be 10 or 13 in T2 (T2 said 10, T3 said 13, I don't remember if the show made it clear?), as an older teen, I just thought he'd be...different, I guess? He did have his moments though, and it's not like the John in T3, T:S, or T:G was some great shakes!

I'm around and interested to hear thoughts on a rewatch. I haven't had any real opportunity to do one. I had my issues with the show, but enjoyed it, and was really mad/sorry to see it cancelled before its time. IMHO, it was definitely a better continuation of T1 & T2 than any of the subsequent movies.

More than Stan finding out about his neighbors, more than almost anything else, I just flat-out NEED to see Elizabeth's reaction to the collapse of the Soviet Union. They can send all of the characters through a wormhole to do it, or have the last defense contractor mark actually be creating a time machine instead of missile defense, I don't care. Wherever she is in her life and whatever she's doing at that point, I absolutely HAVE to see it, lol. Hell, do two jumps, to the beginning of the end of the Warsaw Pact with the Revolutions of 1989, and then to the dissolution of the Soviet Union itself in 1991.

I totally agree with that. The only time Phillip didn't do that was when he proposed, but he was under the gun then and didn't have the luxury of continuing to let things play out at Martha's pace. Otherwise, I think he was doing everything he could to signal to her that he was interested, and that once she did make the move, he would reciprocate, while giving lip service to it being "wrong" or "risky" (which, honestly, probably just turned Martha on more for the forbidden or dangerous aspects of it, and that he would be willing to risk his job/career for her). It's really quite something to watch Phil be so very honest with her now, at this point the only thing he seems to have the stomach to lie to her about is Elizabeth (and telling her the truth about THAT would be just horrifyingly cruel).

I don't think, for U.S. purposes, Phillip is actually "legally" married to anyone. Clark is an entirely fake persona, so that marriage to Martha can't be legal. Elizabeth and Phillip may be common-law spouses because they've been together for so long, but again, given that they are using fake (though long-term) spy personas, whatever documentation they have of their "marriage" can't be legally binding. I just would have assumed that someone who was so careful not to leave any traces of the marriage anywhere (including in Martha and "Clark's" homes unless they were very easily removable/destroyable) wouldn't have filed a document with the government!

Oh, I meant to bring this up earlier!!! Gaad said "blood tests and everything" to Stan, right? I'm shocked by that. I assumed that the whole wedding was just straight out faked, and Clark told Martha he'd "take care of" the paperwork, so that nothing real would ever be filed. I know there weren't these easily accessible databases all over the place in the 80s, but for someone like Martha, who should be watched and scrutinized, why would they even risk having the FBI find out she secretly got married?

Just one quick observation...I didn't turn the channel before the immediate replay started around 11 last night, and thought I heard Phillip, when given the "If you *were* her husband" routine from Gabriel, give his first answer as "Rock Creek Park." Is that right? Phillip guessed right -- even if he was panicked and angry and frustrated and didn't really mean it and everyone ignored him -- right off the bat? He really is a very good judge of people, even when he personally is just coming completely unspooled.

Okay, that made me bust out laughing. One thing that should be considered more...I think the mother saying Jimmy's name is an expression of love and not berating, but it could very, VERY easily also be an expression of worry and concern for Jimmy. He's the wayward son (I'm not sure what we're supposed to think was going on in his life at that point, but it probably wasn't great, lol), he's the one who NEEDS help from his mother or whoever. That would make him top of mind in the end for a parent, without it being "Oh he's the favorite again and no one cares about you, Chuck, hahahahaha!" And yeah, she may have just heard Jimmy talking and leaving, so it literally meant nothing about who she "loves more," sheesh. But Chuck has no capability of seeing it that way or in any way other than the way that's absolutely worst for himself. Hell, he can't see Jimmy's being thoughtful by offering to get him food, or that Jimmy is trying to connect with him by trying to have a smile over that memory of the party. He doesn't feel badly for Jimmy AT ALL that the mother passed in the short time he was gone, because even in the moments while and just after his mother passes, he's filled with hatred, jealousy, and resentment for his younger brother. I hope he's taken out of commission one way or the other next season (I was pretty much hoping for that this season).

I hate Chuck beyond words. BEYOND WORDS. He should have died in that copy shop, or at least gone into a real coma, or Jimmy needs to lose every shred of familial connection to him and at the very least have him committed. I console myself with the knowledge that Jimmy can't be disbarred (or wind up in prison). I HATE CHUCK. On the other hand? Looooooooooooove Ernesto! How can Gus (or, you know, whoever-that's-supposed-to-be) even know what Mike was planning before he got a chance to do anything to Hector? Is Nacho potentially playing all possible sides here and in touch with him? Only Nacho knew Mike hit the truck? I HATE CHUCK.

OMG, THANK YOU! He was Trey on AMC! The Mistresses Gala was pretty awesome, but a not-surprising downer of an outcome to it. I'm still not a fan of casting Jane K as Native American, but I guess I should be glad it's not just a series of random jokes this season. //shrug