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What a cringefest. I watched this out of boredom and just...it's as bad as I remember it. 😑

Yeah Madison's hair was as depressing as the wedding in general. So maybe, fitting. I was like "wow! A perfect stub! No split ends at all and SO THICK!" I thought she doesn't look unhealthy at all with that hair. Usually I'd expect someone with an eating disorder to have worse looking hair but I guess she's recovered.

RE: Randall talking about Rebecca's alzheimers... "What if she thinks I'm William?!" Ummmm no, Randall. Just no. Nice try, though.🙄

I haven't finished the ep yet but FINALLY! We see Rebecca changed her hair at least one other style between 1968 and 2016. Peter Pan!!! He-man!!! Bwahahahaha! From the mouth of babes! I did that same drastic chop when my girls were around a year old or so. I wore a turbie twist when my husband came home & he knew something was up. Hahaha. He was about Jack's reaction. You know he's not into it. But can't be too harsh on me. Rebecca needed that change! We know almost nothing of how Kate's relationship ignited with Phillip. We've been bombed with that relationship and expected to believe in it. They disliked each other then divorce day they go to bad karaoke?! Nope. Just nope. He takes her warts and all? No. She jumps from Toby to HIM immediately? No. Both Kate and Toby find everlasting love within a brief time after their split?. No. I am not buying it. Kate and Phillip are unbelievable as a couple. Barely as friends. They crammed this in like eating dinner together as a happy family so quickly like it was a cheap halloween costume like those plastic drugstore bibs with the creepy barbie mask or something. Horrendous and tacky. The wedding also nonsense for what it's worth. Such a vineyard wedding ?! Sure! And I don't care so much Randall's kids needing an explanation for not being shown at the wedding. FWIW they could've panned around the room in the style of the "downtime" of the wedding and shown Randall and Beth sitting at a table with some kids that are somewhat aged up from the back of the head shot to look like the 3 daughters and they're engaged in background convo while some other main characters are chatting OR a general pan-around shot. I DO care that Kate's kids were NOT at the wedding at all. I don't recall any allusion to them but I was half paying attention. That was a major noticeable absence for me. Kids are an afterthought so many times in these shows where it's all about the whole life cycle and having and raising kids. Flashback to all the wonferful ways the "big three" were raised and how their parents made their childhood spectacular. Then, ignoring entire descendants of said family tree. Very weird. I don't need to be up in the kid drama which they've been heavy handed with too in Randall's family but then to have them absent at major events is WEIRD. Like after Jack was born to Kate & Toby, some of you mentioned "where is that child anyway?" for x amount of episodes.

I'm hearing from Lindsay "I'm perfect. Lean into ME. I don't need to change. Mark needs to change. I have done everything...Mark has done nothing." She can't admit to ANY faults. Everyone has faults. She is just mental.

I want to say these are actors acting for a show but I know a guy EXACTLY like Charles😶‍🌫️ People are so funny the way they want to "act rich" by making nothing ever good enough for them but they are so classless that they come off piss poor. I can't imagine Julia Roberts or Clooney on their yachts acting this way. Being huffy and demanding doesn't make you seem important or wealthy. Just PITA. The self tanner situation on a white couch...I'm glad it's not puke or something else though this is pretty hard to get out. I've read horror stories about the self tanners. Once I used it regularly (the Jergens glow one) and I thought it looked FIRE but then my boss asked what happened down my wrist. It looked like attempted suicide or cutting scars. It was from washing my face at night & the water running down my wrists and washing off the tanner in spots. Not the worst embarrassment but just one reason I'm low maintenance. If Marcos made food I found disgusting, One look at him and I'd eat anything he made. That is a loaded statement.

At least it wasn't the Randall and every other satellite character that exists around the continental U.S. show again. I was waiting for when they'd get around to sorting Kate & Toby's life. I can at least appreciate a SEMI realistic storyline with them. They're not rich, famous, wealthy beyond the norm. They seem to have realistic lives. Nothing annoyed me more than the hyper focus on Randall & his panic attacks, Randall & his search for bio-parents, Randall & his adoption of a 16 year old girl, Randall and his issues with Kevin. Then it was the uncle Nicky show. We saw this long lost uncle that hardly anyone knew of go from addict/ hermit to finding sobriety & love with an airline stew. It's been heavy handed and veered off course so badly. I appreciate seeing these characters finally get some type of resolution as they're in the core family & main characters that have been neglected (IMO) for a bit. YMMV. My humble opinion. I realize I'm in the minority here. Didn't hate the last 2 eps.

Yeah kids are like marriage luminol. You don't divorce because of the kids. They just hilight where the faults are. It sucks. This show was so raw with this but kind of sugar coated the ending of it all being ok. I don't know anyone like that really. I wish I did. I actually got emotional at the end.

I've been missing the whole season so far!! I remember another episode called "big deck energy" so I thought they were re-runs. Didn't realize we're already in s3. I'll have to catch up. As usual, I like Daisy. Gabriela seems cool so far but haven't finished the ep yet.

Am I in wrong place for Australia MAFS? The season with the bride and groom who each have a child & a "Barbie" wannabe with a hunk of a hospitality industry mogul? I'm lost. First time tuning into MAFS Australia & it's wayyy different.

Everyone is in agreement Lindsay is poison. Also, she does NOT "love herself." If she did, she would behave differently.

Omg. I would love that. Actual reality! Plots: Haven’t gone on a vacation in five years because you need a new roof or an oil burner. How to juggle work or retirement and family. On an actual income under $100,000 a year LoL when I saw that convenient HUGE moving truck with its own brand of boxes, etc. and Tree & the girls wandering around then out of their massive house, I said out loud "do you know how much $$$ that costs!?!" Just moving is super expensive. 9 yrs ago, we bought a used, in good condition work van & loaded it up in many trips back and forth to our house (which was purchased for a whopping 5 digits). With the purchase of an actual van and our own sweat, & a bunch of garbage bags, we moved a family of four. Teresa's move itself likely cost what I paid for my house 🤣

The young ladies (ergo daughters) need to stop with the makeup & microbladed /filled eyebrows. They're from 16-21 years old and look 50. I think Gabriella might MIGHT be the last one that walks around owning her natural beauty. You go, girl! Please don't get to that level. Gia with the hand motions in her talking heads & the way she started speaking here & there is going for Tre Jr. vibes. I do feel bad for the children. They seem to have no parental figures in the traditional sense. Even Tre complaining why she deserves the master suite because "we haven't been on vacation in what?..2 months?!" I was like "woe is me!!" So silly. I wish there was a show I could relate to like "the real middle to lower middle class wives" 🤣 I would like to see how the people like me live because I don't even know anymore.

Lindsay needs therapy. Plain & simple. Lots of therapy. And to stop drinking.

I actually REALLY liked this episode. Kate & Toby have realistic arguments. The back & forth at the sterile apartment was well done. Glad to see Kate taking the hill metaphorically & literally. The Toby alter-ego was good. It's true the change was so gradual & with integrating the children, weight-loss, job hunt to actual job, you don't notice it as starkly how he's changed. Glad they didn't sugar coat Kate being afraid of going in the water & trying to swim even when Saint Jack took over & attempted to coax her in. Maybe she's always been a scared girl or lacked confidence in life. I can relate in many ways to that mentality. Unpopular opinion: I enjoy her character on the show. Toby, while he has myriad points and is trying for his family in a way he knows HOW right now, has been kind of a jerk.

Your entire post is spot-on. I'm about to be 40 VERY shortly & have 3 small children & the speech was awkward to say the least. I find myself burning the candle at both ends & I couldnt tell you what I've done all day. I'm feeling more Rebecca & in actuality am more life stage-wise in sync with the "big 3."

Wait...so there's an existing CABIN & they're building a log mansion. They now need a "guest house" for a potential live-in nurse?! What about the nurse lives in the cabin they ALREADY FREAKING HAVE??!! This show makes less sense as time goes by. Open to any clarification if anyone has any but this is just something I picked up on. They're winging the dialogs a lot of times to segway into some reasoning to explain a character's mental state or to blend a flashback but it's not enjoyable or cohesive at all.

I like the flashbacks. The real-time however grates on me. They lay these stories on way too thick. Now Kevin is going to start a building company that's run by all veterans? Really? My dad is a veteran. I really appreciate the sentiment. But I feel the Cassidy storyline is apropos of nothing. They found Uncle Nicky & now she came along with him. They're instantly super involved in each other's lives to where they're babysitting infants and building homes for Kev. Like- ?!?! I hate what the show became. It's too heavy handed. At least it wasn't another purely Randall and family episode. The show really got gratuitous with them for a whole season or more.

Jasmina lost me once I finished the episode. She is rude to Michael. He turned her off at some point and this marriage has derailed. I'm surprised since she's an early childhood educator and doesn't seem super patient.

Thanks for bringing me into the OT thread. 😬😬😬 I don't need any more strikes up in here.

SAME!!! Weird, right?! He admitted she gets jealous when he complements me. I always tell him to keep it between us lol

Thank you. I needed to hear that after the stressful week I've been having. I'll remember your words when I go on vacay with M-I-L next week and remind myself to be kind at all times. It's a struggle. But I began to envy these mellow people in my middle years now. I feel like it's elegant and classy to talk quietly and I'm a louder Jersey Girl 😖. I guess someone really got into my head lol. I'm not even from a culture considered to be loud so it's just purely the suburban Jersey influence.

This is true. I wonder if some of these very very dry personalities (not shaming mental health issues AT ALL-just curious) are from being on some form of medication. Not the 1st time on this show I've questioned the behaviors some cast exhibit. I get more exciteable about things than these people do and it's *their* lives!! I'm often critiqued by my mother-in-law for being a loud talker. I just come from loud women. Not obnoxious, just volume is hard to control when I get excited about anything. These people talk really low in my opinion. So not only low emote but low volume as well. Noi is sort of like that also. She is a very quiet person. Nothing wrong with it. It's just a very specific thing. I couldn't do it.

I'm just going to say it- not liking the ballet Beth storyline and it didn't have a place where it fit in with the rest of the episode. It should've been covered in an earlier season or episode. Also as someone mentioned, we figured Beth was maybe the last Pearson who didn't have to get over herself. We reviewed her mom's stringent raising of Beth and this could've possibly fit somewhere in there. It felt disjointed. Felt like 3 eps in one. A Thanksgiving episode/theme, a flashback to adult dating with Rebecca / Miguel, the Kevin cheating on Sophie, the Madison vs Kevin where to spend Thanksgiving & the lotalty of Kate vs Kevin. It was a lot. If I felt the need as a 43 (or whatever) old woman to call people who I feel like disappointed me in life, I don't know where I'd be. I mean I kind of get it but a little bit not at that age. You're appreciated in life and have also accomplished a lot professionally so cut bait on it. Beth always oozed confidence. I also do like the young Beth casting. SO similar looking where it's a believable youth to adult transformation. Randall, I never found believable as adult Randall. Young to older Kate, I believe. That's another win. A fail for me is young to old Sophie.

Lindsay is a toxic ooze. Not the good kind like the one that created teenage mutant ninja turtles. I'm talking about the kind that will erode Mark's very spirit until the iminent divorce. Maybe not "no" on decision day but soon after. It's like someone on these trash shows said (forget if it was the "love is blind" trainwreck or this one) but it was said to the effect of "when you don't fight & keep getting over the problems quickly, it means one of you is pushing your emotions down. It will ultimately end up blowing up." Ain't that the truth!