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Finally finished watching this and concur with everyone - Boba was better as a mysterious bounty hunter. As a main character, not so much. Mando and Baby Yoda saved the show. They were awesome and I appreciate the gift of more of them in the midst of this boring show. Personally, there were many characters introduced in this show that would have made better spin off: Apologies for spelling. I could look up these names, but I'm too lazy..... 1. Fennec Shand on her own. At this point, she's smarter and cooler than Boba. I did enjoy her sneak attack at the end. Good riddance to the cowardly mayor! 2. The Hutt twins- I thought that was going to be interesting and a show of Boba fighting the true heirs of Jabba would have made a better plot then the spice thing. But no...... 3. The bad wookie Krsantan or whatever. I freaking love him - definitely my new favorite. I hope we see him again - he's too cool to be abandoned now, right???? 4. Peli - what a delight she is! "Grogru? That's a terrible name!" I would love to just see what trouble she gets into in her garage with her dumb droids and the people who come through there, and also, her bad taste in men jawas lovers.......... 5. Cad Bane. Such a cool villain. Totally wasted here. Bummer. I honestly don't know what the point was for this show as far as Boba was concerned. If they mostly just wanted to show him escaping the pit, they should have had HIM be the guest episode in the third season of the Mandalorian instead of this show with almost half the episodes featuring Mando. If they had just done a one-off episode showing him escaping and what he went through with the Tuscans, I think that would have been enough. Still, I can't regret this show for what they gave us of my favorite baby. So glad he chose the beskar - he has lifetimes to train as a Jedi, but for him, only a short time with his daddy!!!! My heart almost exploded when he jumped into Mando's arms. And curling up next to that Rancor was so precious I almost died again. I can't stand the cuteness - now excuse me while I go buy some more Baby Yoda merch........

Yeah, she has nothing, and I mean NOTHING but false claims to how horrible Chris has treated her. She actually said he's "doing her dirty". Exactly how? By being nice apparently because she then accused him of being a "fucking used car salesman who sells houses." What does that even mean???? And when he (gently) pushed her to verbalize her problems with him she got up and left. She likes to dish it but cannot take one ounce back. If he pushes, he's "being disrespectful". If he's pleasant, he's "doing her dirty". No win for poor Chris. She can keep her 1% of trying - sending her packing!!!!! I believe she has even stated that as evidence of what a wonderful person she is. But I said it earlier in the season, and I'll say it again: Anyone who verbalizes that they like animals more than people frequently says this because they do not get along well with humans. It's clear to me this is why Alyssa likes animals. She is terrible with her own species......

Yeah, he's not the only cast member in the history of this show that benefited by being married to an even worse cast member, but the fact that the rest of the cast seems to really like him speaks well of him. I think we've seen enough of him to form an overall opinion. He seems mature and ready to be married and able to joke around (remember the side piece joke that set ACE off in the first place?), but she has sucked all the fun out of him. He was excited to explore PR until his bride insisted on just sitting on the beach (preferably without him). The poor dude had to snuba alone! Plus, the fact that he hasn't lost his cool in the face of the heinous beast he has the misfortune to call his wife speaks volumes about his overall temperament. I give him props for not going off on her, because I would have let her have it at that dinner. He's average looking, but very nice, and if the "experts" had even remotely tried to pick someone equally ready to be married and not fixated on looks or teeth, he definitely could have been 1/2 of a successful couple.

This is the dumbest response to the negativity she could argue - the girl is literally begging to be separated from her spouse. The cries to "kick her off" or "send her home" is in relation to the filming of the show. Nobody wants to see her sorry ass anymore with her crap attitude. I don't see Dr. Viv addressing any of this, nor the fact that she said ON CAMERA that she hates him! What about that Viv????

This! I said it on last week's thread - the calmer he is, the angrier she gets. She even said she "hates" him. Exactly why she thinks that entitles her to the "experience" of a rent-free apartment for 8 weeks is mind boggling. Meanwhile, he is calm and pleasant and she's coming unhinged. It's a delight to see the awful person get played this way. In prior seasons, the villains mind fucked the innocent parties and it was painful to see: depressed Kate, annoyed Mindy, distraught Amber, gaslit Paige.......seeing this asshole get played is actually a delight. Olaj gained a little respect from me for his dead on assessment of Alyssa. He has her number and I only wish he had let her have it at that dinner. No-one was buying her bullshit. It would have been awesome to see her storm off crying one more time. Lindsey's face would have been me. Props to her for keeping it together. Speaking of.... Linds impressed me this week. She is crazy, but her all-in on helping Mark impressed me, even embracing living with FIVE CATS. I really hope they make it now. If she can continue to reign it in like at dinner, there might be hope. Mark could use a person in his corner that takes care of him and not the other way around. I hope he can accept the help when it's offered. It probably feels foreign to him. Mike and Jasmina are so boring. They seem to bring out the worst in each other. Jasmina needs a Miles - a happy puppy dog to bring out her fun side and balance out her seriousness; unfortunately, Mike is her mirror image - very serious and opinionated. I don't see this going anywhere but divorce on D-day. Neither is psycho enough to cause crazy drama, but they are just an unfortunate mismatch. Once again, Steve and Noi are awesome. I see the tears in the upcoming episode, but I think they'll work it out. Please God, let them work it out!

Totally forgot about this episode with the Olympics on, but wow! What a fantastic episode! Just last week I was questioning whether anyone could beat Dusty and Ryan, and boom! The race gods delivered. Although I find them mostly likeable, I still delighted in seeing them get dusted by every team including the perpetual bottom dwellers. But man, talk about grit. The comeback was just as sweet. I thought all of these challenges were great, although the donkey walk was too short. The rest, just classic TAR. I like these teams, and I hope Dusty and Ryan continue to struggle a little just to keep it interesting. I wouldn't be sad to see them win with all Ryan has gone through, but I am mostly rooting for Penn and Kim who have proven just as likeable as they are on social media.

I think mom has her number - she knows what she's like. I felt like Alyssa's mom knew Chris wasn't Alyssa's type when she met Chris for breakfast before the honeymoon, but she could see that Chris is a nice guy and was hopeful her daughter would give it a try. I hope her mom tells her "I told you so" when Alyssa comes crying home about how it's so unfair how she's being portrayed.

This sums up my feelings perfectly. She has been absolutely wretched to him. He has been nothing but nice (as far as we have seen) and it almost seems to be making her more irate! Like, the nicer he is, the more pissed she gets. She is so obsessed with not being the bad person here that she has actually become that. It's hilarious hearing her continually insist that she's a nice person while doing something or saying something absolutely heinous. She's like a gift that keeps on giving. She's so bad, I am kind of enjoying the show showing her looking atrocious. I do feel bad for Chris though. He didn't deserve to be saddled with this bitch. I hope he can find a nice lady who doesn't care about teeth or a slightly flabby gut, both of which can be worked on. Alyssa's personality, not so much......

@JenE4 Thank you for the laugh this morning - your play by play of what feels like Jasmina & Mike's 100th argument about stupid crap made me laugh. I'm going to start using "nip it in the butt" from now on....... And yes to questioning Lindsey's manners - you don't get to complain about someone's private bathroom habits when you drank THREE BOTTLES OF WINE! on an airplane and made a fool of yourself. And I'm not even mentioning getting drunk right before your wedding and pulling your top all the way down to find your vows. Oops, I guess I did mention it. My point: She is not exactly classy either......

I believe she did at every turn once the season ended. And that asshole Kevin Frazier encouraged it gleefully. And none of the participants ever control the narrative - only the evil producers. Despite that, between NecklaceGate and the fact the Hayley is besties with VA says all I need to know about her. She is a mean girl, just not as mean as Alyssa.

Nailed it! I had no idea what he was talking about. After having sex, he planned a romantic dinner just to tell her he didn't want to be "lovey dovey"? Not great MTS. Rough episode for Linds - first getting chewed out by Katina in front of all the girls, then this. And speaking of Katina - I agreed with what she said about Lindsey, but geez, let it go. If the offended person says let it go, you need to get over it. Man, this group as a whole sucks. The only ones who seem ready for this are Steve, Noi, Chris and MTS, and two of these people were put with assholes. I initially thought Mike and Jasmina were going to be a great couple, but nope. He is miserable to be around. Overthinking indeed. He is a fun killer - why can't he just live in the moment and have a good time with his new hot wife? They are going to talk everything to death - another Olivia/Brett or Jake/Hayley but without a total smartass or weirdo to be entertaining. She absolutely did not owe him an apology for what happened on the boat, so her non-apology was perfectly fine IMO. I wouldn't have even given him that. I wouldn't trust Olajuwon farther than I could chuck that medicine ball he was barking at Katina about. No way in hell he stays faithful to this woman. They might make it past D-Day, but I will be shocked if they last much past that..... Alyssa sucks. She is currently fighting her way to the top of the worst wife board. Chris has shown himself to be perfectly nice. His only crime is a dad bod and janky teeth, yet she acts like she was paired with an actual troll. She need to be called out for this bullshit narrative of "we are both disappointed because we didn't get what we wanted". He was perfectly happy with her until she turned into a bitch. Her behavior is immature, spoiled, entitled, judgemental and rude. Her saying "I've been being nice" is nothing short of delusional. If she thinks this is nice, I would hate to see her when she's being mean. Looks like next week she doubles down on the "I'm not having fun" tantrum. Once again, awesome job "experts"! Noi and Steve are adorable. I really, really need these two to make it. If they don't, it might be the nail in the coffin for me with this show.

Well, this happened. Zzzzz...... They lie, lie, lie. I spent the entire episode distracted and annoyed that they have conveniently forgotten that this is NOT the first all female finale. How can Nina even say that with a straight face - the other judges weren't here for that, but she was! Not one of these ladies made anything ground breaking or fashion forward: Kristina's looked cheap, unwearable and basically the same thing she has done all season. One Way Monkey. Her pants looked like something from a 1970's Butterick pattern. Horrid. Who the fuck wears a swim suit top and baggy jeans with a weird "thing" over the top? Who is this woman and where the hell is she going? No one and nowhere I say. I cannot believe she spent $1,000 on that cheap get-up. Coral's dress is a wearable art project. I don't understand the point of the chiffon skirt over the top of the shorter one. Nothing fashion forward happening there either. I fail to see how Shantall's was "non-binary". It was definitely a woman's suit. What does non-binary clothing mean anyway? Is that the same thing as gender neutral? But props for the tailoring. I loved the pants. I hope she wins - I think she has the most potential. Chasity made an evening gown. Again. Nothing ground breaking. Her business is making prom dresses which is perfectly fine - why does she need to be fashion forward? Watching her spin to explain how exactly this witchy prom dress was the future of fashion was ridiculous. Just do what you do. The tongue bath given to these ladies was ridiculous. I would be fine if Karli K. came back.

Whoever said this season is full of nice people who are terrible racers wasn't too far off. Ryan and Dusty are so far ahead of everyone else it's not that interesting. Barring a major mistake by the two of them is there anyone who can challenge them for the win??? As soon as they read the clue that had the word "Bartending" in it, I thought to myself - gonna involve carrying glasses of some kind. I wasn't too far off. I would have immediately picked the sausage.

This. I would have just said "Wow. Rude. I don't recall asking for your opinion." I was one of those people dragging Mustashely through out that season, but I think she got a smidge of vindication and the shine came off David when he did that follow up dating show and acted a total clown. Plus his arrest record that came out after the show aired. I don't think either is a prize at this point. I think Alyssa is more like Molly - stuck up and mean for no reason other than they think they are hot stuff and entitled to treat people like that.

Beauty must be in the eyes of the beholder because I don't see anything you see. Yes she is very thin, but that's about it to me. Her hair is frequently scraggly. She isn't ugly, but she's not classically beautiful either. Then she opens her mouth and she becomes even more unattractive. I would say the beauties this season hands down are Jasmina and Katina. I wouldn't describe Chris as hot or anything, but I certainly don't think he's ugly, and I also don't find him below her looks-wise. They seem pretty evenly matched to me.

She is trying really hard to control the narrative, but unfortunately for her, there are cameras and it's not going to happen. Silly Alyssa, thinking she is going to outsmart those MAFS producers. Has she ever seen this show???? I think she's realized she is getting the villain edit and it's too late. She needs to own that her saying she is trying and doing the exact opposite is lying. Instead of pulling all of the shit she's doing now in an effort to not look like the bad guy, she should have just point blank said "I'm sorry, but I just am not attracted to you. I don't think I ever will be." There would still be blow back for taking that stance, but not as bad as the mess she making now with her horrible behavior.

I totally agree with everything you said. One minute I am loving Lindsey for her easy rapport with Mark ("Enjoy your Matcha") and the lovely interaction with his family and friends, the next I am side eyeing her version of what happened on that plane. Very messy. And I am sorry, but after Olaj tried to start a fight with Katina's friend because he didn't like him questioning his motives, I don't absolve him either. He already showed he is more than willing to start something when there is conflict. He is very immature to me. He seems surprised that Katina's "doors are closed" after two days. Give me a break, He seems to think "I am saying all the right things but you are not being vulnerable. Don't you hear me saying I have changed and I am here for the right reasons???" Well, slow your roll dude, she's probably heard it a million times before which is why she's not all in after two days. You better earn that with your behavior. Talk is cheap. But I still kind of love him for not giving a shit and laying out the truth on the after show about Alyssa. He summed it up perfectly. MTS is fantastic. I absolutely love him. Imagine that - an actual grown up! He was awesome diffusing the situation with the group. He will make someone a wonderful husband someday. But not this woman. Points to Lindsey for recognizing how great his is, but I fear she is going to ruin it with her unhinged ways. He already has his hands full with a mother with mental health issues, he doesn't need a wife with issues too...... Not much left to say about Alyssa that hasn't been said already. She is awful. She did gaslight Chris. He can't win - she's pissed when he's nice and she's pissed when he calls her on her bullshit. She can get gone. He got screwed, but not by his wife......fuck you MAFS for doing this to a perfectly nice guy whose only fault seems to be wonky teeth. She was very easy breezy about walking away pre-wedding if her groom wasn't what she wanted, but I think she underestimated how difficult this would be on camera with a real human being. And now we are seeing what she really is. And maybe it's mean, but looking at her mama, he escaped a bad fate because based on genetics she is not going to age well. What the hell was that argument between Michael and Jasmina? They had a conflict over whether there would be more conflict? Oh brother.......zzzzz I feel like the situation with Steve's lack of job is farce created by the show to create conflict. Or maybe I'm lying to myself because they are the only ones I see lasting past decision day.

This! I said the same to my husband - I find it hard to believe that James would be out running for exercise since his entire job is exercise - seems like a modern thing born out of a more sedentary society with less manual labor to keep you fit. If anyone was running back then, it was not for leisure activity! If this is inaccurate, please educate me, but to me, this just didn't fit the time or place.....

Cedric the Boxer! My favorite comedic story hands down from the books! ;-0

Yeah I agree that some people are unhinged assholes that don't deserve the time or energy to even have a superficial relationship even on a friend basis, including all of the guys you named. Most of the time, I think the "experts" are sympathetic and understanding towards the injured spouse as PC has even said in the past that they can't make people leave (which implies they have advised it). Even though I don't think they would force interaction with these people, I absolutely wouldn't put it past the producers. They clearly don't care about the emotional damage being caused and love every minute of the drama.....

Everyone always uses Jamie as the example of overcoming initially being not attracted to her stranger spouse, but just because it worked for them doesn’t mean it will for everyone else if they “make an effort” so to speak. For one thing, Doug is one of the nicest guys ever on this show (moles and perpetual un/under employment notwithstanding), and beyond Jamie’s wanting to get married was a pathological need for family stability which Doug provided in spades. Not everyone is that desperate to the point of forcing themselves to like their new tv spouse. I would put ACE is this category. What I take exception to is how absolutely horrid some people have behaved towards their spouse. There is no reason to be rude and unkind which is also the category ACE is in. I cannot fathom why people can’t just have a discussion when the cameras are not there and come to an understanding to enjoy the extra money and experience and play nice for filming. Why does it always have to get so messy? Game the system and then go separate ways after the 8 weeks!

Dare I say.........like a side piece??????

THIS. She was checking out the minute she saw him and his fate was sealed as soon as he smiled.

Or if you love the draaahhhma watch ALL of the Chris/Paige interactions. Also, Chris/anybody else interactions.