Tabbygirl521

I am thinking of an old Maria Muldaur song, something about, "Don't you touch my leg..."

"The Rambling Gothards" is my new band name. We will play "Deliverance"-style banjo music.

You know...that flashback pic of the Duggars in bright red irks me. Modesty, my ass. When they say "modest," they really just mean "asexual" or something like it. If you are truly modest, you don't dress everyone in eye-gouging bright red and travel in a formation that brings traffic to a screeching halt. They stand out, screaming for attention, in the ugliest way possible. I think their having morphed into more mainstream fashion, while continuing to congratulate themselves on being condescendingly, "Jesus expects more of us" "modest," is incredibly hypocritical but for the kids' sake, I am glad about it. I can remember going to school with the occasional kid whose parents insisted on dressing them in ways that assured they'd be ostracized and it still makes me crazy, decades later. Of course, the Duggars have their own little kingdom of superiority with no mainstream friends to pity them, so there's that. I keep hoping that the girls (and boys) will eventually understand and appreciate that God gives skills and intelligence to women as well as men, and that it is an abomination to waste what God gave them by knuckling under to any yahoo with a dick and a Bible. I keep hoping that their fashion choices are just the tip of that free-will iceberg, waiting to be hit.

I haven't been reading this thread long and have lots of catching up to do. I just wanted to mention (I don't know why :) ) that as a lapsed Episcopalian I had never heard of the Jesus prayer until reading here the other day. But not two days later, I was reading a newsletter from my mom's church, and lo and behold, an upcoming event is learning about the Jesus prayer/meditation (I think). Just seemed like such an odd coincidence that I felt compelled to share my heart :)

And then on top of all this, they have no problem using those who DO educate themselves and have skills, services, etc. to offer society. I mean, if you really believe that education is a Bad Thing, and that one should not accept employment that involves acknowledging another human in authority, shouldn't you decline to accept services from, say, a NICU, and just trust God to heal your micro-premie? Just an example off the top of my head. Either they trust God or they don't. Either they believe that faithfully adhering to their tenets works, or it doesn't. You know: the way dressing and behaving with extreme repression will keep your brother from listing after and molesting you. Hey, Duggars, you're doing it wrong!ETA: I just realized you pretty much said the same thing too :) I scanned your post too quickly and God laid it on my heart to rant a bit.

I am just reeling over the plumbing-line recommendation. How kind of them to provide the exact specs of the type to be used. Why the hell aren't these f*ckers in jail? All these damn fools who call themselves parents. God.

Hmmm. I wonder if he really has a new position or if that is the typical corporate non-explanation when am employee moves on. I imagine that going to work has been REALLY uncomfortable since the news broke. He may have just bailed. I couldn't really blame him if so. Unfortunately he and his family may well need the job, in the wake of this Josh mess.

Wait, I am wrong. She is soft-pedaling. Damn, Nancy! Thought we could count on you to call out the nonsense.

Nancy Grace is covering the Duggars right now. Focusing on Jill and Jessa and the Kelly interview at the moment. Now she is about to go ballistic re: the 5-year-old.

I feel compelled to share my heart that Danny Bonaduce has a genuine job, and therefore no need to lower himself in this fashion. Although I am sure he would be happy to pound the ever-loving crap out of a molester. He has the morning drive-time slot on KZOK-FM in Seattle. I hated him on the Partridge Family, but I get a kick out of him now.

I have tried to give my heathen brain a rest from all this incomprehensible (to me) nonsense that Ma and Pa Duggar foist onto their kids. But somehow these thoughts bubble up: the whole Gothard movement thinks all men are barely-contained rapists. So did this somehow give tacit permission to Josh - and all their friends, if JimBob is to be believed - to be predatory sneaky feel coppers? Gosh, Mom and Dad, you were right! I mean, apparently as soon as a boy reaches puberty, he has to be handled as a potential sex offender. What the HELL?

Ma and Pa said a couple of times that eventually they had to move Josh out of the house. Is that when they foisted him onto Anna? Genuine question; I never really watched the show. It is just sinking in with me that all their ridiculous restrictions for their daughters, which they would have us believe are to protect the girls against the ungodly sinners in the world, were really developed to protect against their brother. But it's the rest of us whom they scold and vilify. I am beginning to hate them. I always figured they operated out of ignorance and fear, whooped up by idiots like Bill Gothard. I now see them as much more calculating (and still ignorant). Would love to give them some "training" about bearing false witness against their neighbors.

I think what Megyn said was that 90% (or whatever) are never ARRESTED again. I need to re watch to be sure but, sadly, I nuked this already. But I do recall that it struck me as a misleading statement. OTOH, I thought she looked like she wanted to barf as she said it. I also thought they chose some very molestery images of Josh to run along with the intro narrative. Not all, but some. This was my first viewing of an entire FOX news piece. Was wishing for Rachel Maddow.

So many things to rail about but I will just say: JimBob says that after the 4th or 5th time (I think), they started talking to other families. And SO MANY had these same problems or WORSE, so Joshie is not so bad, I guess. I assume these are all Fundie families. Odd; I think I could poll a zillion of my heathen or mildly religious friends and find that none of them had molesting sons. I could be wrong...

The People article quotes them as saying they pray that viewers will see they are not a perfect family. The hell? They assume we have all been viewing them as perfect all this time?? How humble.

This is the one episode still available on my OnDemand (Snohomish County,Washington). I have never yet made it through an entire Duggar episode but tonight I thought I would try this one, sort of as a last hurrah. From reading here and on TWOP over the years, I find I am still way too familiar with these people and their nonsense. I turned this off when my headship...I mean spouse awoke from his couch nap just in time for Josh's blurred ass whizzing by on a trapeze. I found myself starting to point out the "DEFRAUDING," and managed to stifle myself (Gothard would be proud) in time, as I realized the hub would think I had slipped a cog. Speaking of Gothard, I read today that he is 80??? And seriously, he claims he has never kissed a girl? So I am sure he has no issues at all that gave rise to his insane religious philosophy. Sorry for the OT. I was just a bit gobsmacked. PS: I missed the gender reveal. Dang.

It has been many years since I have been able to stomach an entire episode of this show. Those idiot parents, with their defiantly proud clinging to ignorance and their clear mistreatment and exploitation of those beautiful children, make my blood boil. So much wasted potential. To learn now how very badly they have failed their daughters is utterly sickening. I started to watch the Erica Hill ep but had to stop. Gross. Enough with the horny-teenager parents. What on earth do the younger kids think their parents are talking about with all the hey-hey-hey, nudge-nudge, wink-wink crap? Modest, my ass. It would wonderful if, as a poster upthread suggested, this inspires the public to start turning over the rocks of extreme fundie-ism, to expose the creepy-crawlies underneath - as is starting to happen with Scientology. Maybe, maybe we can start to reverse the terrifying trends in the US to restrict the right of LGBTQ and female citizens. How can rational humans fall for such as Gothardism? Men cannot control themselves at all, so women, it is all on you. Yet somehow they are in charge of you, even though they can't control themselves. Yeah, THAT makes sense.

I realize Tim isn't an expert on these things but I need him to learn that vaginas are on the INSiDE. Unless a garment incorporates a speculum, we are not going to be seeing anyone's vagina. I wanted Char to win. But I liked Sandhya's audition pieces and am eager to see what else she comes up with. I think Jefferson should have stayed.

Sabi! You have no idea how happy I am to see you pop in here! Right before TWOP closed, I sent you a panicky IM after realizing that I had, years ago, overlooked a message from you and was sure that all this time you thought I was a jackass for not replying. I had little hope you would run across it, but crossed my fingers that you'd show up here. HOW ARE YOU????

BloggerAloud, I have met her, too. It was at a book signing years ago. My mom, sister, and I went just for the snark. We all used to watch the show and complain about everything, and I used to spend half my life on TWOP, breaking it all down. So we were ready for some in-person good times. And then she was nice. REALLY nice. Very sweet and personable. The crowd loved her. I don't know if it mattered that we were near her home turf near Seattle, but she was just normal and comfy and not all dolled up. After she spoke, she told everyone to stay seated and she would come around to everyone and sign their books. She took her time, chatted with everyone. She kissed my elderly mom, after nearly giving her a stroke via the TV by desecrating Greek food. I had her sign my book "to tabby" and then felt bad, like maybe she would connect the dots to my tabby girl TWOP bitchiness. The thing is, I still hate Semi-homemade. But I never could barf out the snark again after experiencing her as a lovely, warm, friendly woman. And I won't elaborate, but I am pretty sure those are her god-given boobs - or were at that time, anyway. I will also confess I enjoy reading all the old TWOP snark. So I am an utter hypocrite.

Hey, OrchidGal, I've made that burger as well - I'd forgotten. I thought it was good also! I couldn't believe it.

The idea of Sandy and Mario was entertaining, though.

I'll confess I've made soup the day after Thanksgiving using lots of crazy leftovers, and it probably wasn't too dissimilar to Sandy's Thanksgiving-in-a-Pot. But I used no seasoning packets, gravy mix, or cream of mushroom soup, and it also wasn't the main holiday meal! I tried to bait her by writing out a Hotdog Nacho recipe once in one of the TWOP threads, but no one bit; it never appeared on the show.

Greetings, all! I've recently returned from my years-long round-the-world tour with Dr. Charles Treuter! How the shrike is everyone?