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What the heck is going on with Darcy's neck? Crepey-skin? She wears a neck wrap or scarf in every.single.scene.

BREAKING: I found out what Lincoln wrote on the walls "I'm a genius"

Did we see Ali standing in the backseat, out of a seatbelt and a SEAT, leaning way forwards to talk to her Mom as she was driving?? And I think they were talking about how Ali falls during the school day? <shudder>

I was sad to watch Addie and her mood changes because of having 2 birthday parties in one day. If that was a Saturday, and presumably Jeremy's weekend, WHY couldn't Leah have had her party the next weekend? Let Addie swim as long as she wants to with her friends. Jeremy's visits are sporadic due to his work schedule, fine. But if he has a weekend, let Addie enjoy the time with him without being interrupted. As for Chelsea and Cole's handling of Aubree's jealousy, I wish one of them would say "Aubree I know there's been a lot of changes in the house right now, but I want you to know you're the first baby in this family and we will always love & cherish YOU. Watson needs some extra attention because he's a baby, but we don't want you to think it's because we love you any less." And yes, Chelsea and Cole can take turns having one-on-one special time with Aubree. I honestly flinched when Cole was holding Watson and Aubree started to complain and Chelsea said "that's Watson's DADDY." Ouch. I can totally see where Aubree would feel insecure, but I think a little reassurance from the adults would go a long way.

and did I read Jenelle's tweet correctly...she has all 3 kiddos full-time?! No way she won that from Barb! Maybe she's counting David's daughter? Someone please remind me why the third baby is "endtable?" lol

@BitterApple I read your post before fully realizing what your user name was, and I was wondering why you were calling Kail "Mr. Bitter Apple." Then I realized you were referring to your hubby in a hypothetical, but now I just want to call Kail "Mr. Bitter Apple" all the time. If that's ok with you :)

NannyBails, I live far away, but I'll be glad to send $$. The situation is horrible. MTV is irresponsible to continue filming Jenelle. As bad as the other teen moms are, I usually don't doubt they actually love their children. Jenelle doesn't express anything to Kaiser beyond "Really Dude? Oh he's so bad." Breaks my heart.

How nice of a "family time" dinner did Jenelle's and David's kids have with Jenelle reading aloud the police report on Nathan? "He then got on top of her and was choking her..." GEEZ. David never stops talking bad about Nathan, that has to be a terrible example for not only the Roll but Jace and Ryssa as well. David's poor little girl never says a word.

About Bugs taking the iPad off the boat: I thought Capt. Sandy said the crew could do a tour that day and she said she wanted to see pics when they got back. Then Sandy asked Bugs if she had the iPad and she said yes. I'm not saying at all that that justifies Bugs looking through messages for hours, but it did seem strange that Sandy wanted her to have the iPad to take pictures? Wouldn't some snaps with their phones have been sufficient?

Now I think we know why Jenn was crying so hard at the wedding. Sure it's partly "the most important people aren't here," but mainly I bet she had talked to one of the producers and they told her about Ryan driving while higher than a kite to his wedding. I don't have a lot of sympathy for her, but I bet she was scared by that, as well as mortified that it was going to air for the whole world to see. She's tried so hard to keep Ryan's problems secret...

ghoulina: "Rev Dee Snider" Me: <dead>

Said in anger? But but...I thought dear Matty said he reacted in embarrassment, NOT anger?!

Another aspect to this Matt thing: the producers seem like THEY really want a wedding. When Amber was expressing doubts about getting married in last week's episode, the producer was asking why she had doubts "because Matt's not going anywhere." I felt like screaming at the tv of course HE'S not going anywhere. That's part of the problem, he will be right there, underfoot, trying to control her every move. Then when Matt was saying all those foul things in Vegas, the producer just kept saying Amber still wants to marry him, she just wants her family with her. It just feels like they are trying to force a Matt-Amber wedding. It's not like it's their responsibility to look after Amber, but they sure shouldn't be encouraging a wedding.

Gary was wrong on several different levels for bringing up sex ed when he did. It's ON CAMERA which of course is going to make Leah super uncomfortable. AND IT'S DINNER TIME. Ick. About Ryan: I caught their episode of 16 and Pregnant and I swear Ryan was just as bad back then. Monotone, always asleep or laying on the couch or bed, emotionless, not helpful with baby Bentley at all. I honestly thought Ryan had gotten worse over time, but he was a zombie back then. Very strange.

Maci. Girl it's not that hard. Bentley is at a good age where you could have told him 'Benny, Papa really would like for you to go to Alabama with him and Mimi for Thanksgiving. Guess who'll be there? Papa's DAD! and his Mom. You haven't been for a visit in a while and they are going to be so excited to see you!" At some point it's ok for kids to hear that older/extended family is important too, and time is precious. Who knows if they'll still be around next year? And Maci doesn't have to do it for Ryan, or even Ryan's parents, but it's for Bentley's own benefit to meet his great-grandparents. Kids love hearing/knowing where they came from.

Larry seemed to be on some happy pills.

I follow the show and these threads religiously, but have somehow missed why Jenelle's new baby is referred to as "Endtable." Help anyone?

when the ladies were in Dr. Curves's room, did anyone else notice that Porsha said something to the effect of "All those donkey booties you see around town are the work of Dr. Curves" and that's the moment that Phaedra walked in?

And oh Cate folding "clean" laundry and putting it on that dog pee stained, Nova pee stained nasty carpet where food is dropped on a daily basis. BLECH.

OMG. Yes. I came here to post this. I died a little.

Farrah said as she drove the truck "I made it to my back door!" Anyone else snicker?

@Calm81 I think they're talking about Arnie from Roseanne.

Wow. Ryan looked like a 50 year old deranged man. Does Cate ever shower? Also, I don't think I've ever seen poor Nova smile or chuckle. Isn't she 18 mos-2 years old? Kids that age are always giggling about something. My kids did, and see all the videos on youtube and facebook of kids cracking up at their Dad opening mail for further proof :)

could it be Marci from Married with Children you're thinking of? She had some crazy eyes lol.

When Matt was talking about Amber's midnight raids of the fridge, did anyone else think she must be taking Ambien before bed? The fact that she would eat a bunch of stuff, not talk to him and then not remember it sounds like classic sleeping pill stories.