gotta watch

I took Cole's comment differently. I think he said he would do both puke and poop if Chelsea *needed him to. I thought he meant if she were sick, or out of town, he would do both. YMMV. But I agree that their sickly-sweet routine gets on my nerves.

I thought the actress who played Terra played that scene perfectly. Her survival instinct kicked in when John attacked her and she did everything that was necessary to Not be a victim. When she goes into shock afterwards, thinking she'd killed him, man that gave me chills. I haven't seen anything like this in real life, but that is exactly how I would expect a person in Terra's position would act. God I hope that Debra and her daughters are doing therapy, both group and individual.

@DrSparkles are you me?! Yes to every word of your post!

I hadn't listened to the podcast, so I was completely unspoiled when this series started. Then I came here and accidentally clicked on a spoiler bar! It said "John attacks Terra & she shoots him in self defense." I WAS SO SAD I KNEW HOW IT ENDED. Color me shocked when I actually watched the episode and that's not how it ends. Lol. For all the concern & talk about what a terrible role model Debra is, I'm glad and relieved BOTH her girls are way stronger and more capable than she is. Kudos to Ronnie and Terra (and whatever Ronnie's real life name is.)

Tim Riggins is a member of the football team in Friday Night Lights. He comes from the wrong side of the tracks & seems a tad dirty. But he's hot. You know, if you're into that kind of thing.

One thing I haven't seen addressed here: the episode titles. Last week's was One Shoe, and this week's is Chivalry. Do you all have any idea where/how they're coming up with these titles? I feel like I missed something.

This show has me riveted! And I don't care if Roni is a brat, she's my hero. When she and Debra were in the restaurant, Roni was staring at her so hard, trying to fathom that Debra really was going to leave John. Then she said "Tequila." I cracked up!

I actually thought John hastening his father's death was where the episode title came from "Lord High Executioner"

How is everyone on the planet watching this show? I just think it's fascinating. I'm a big fan of true crime stories anyway. That scene of little John biting into that taco felt like a scene from Breaking Bad.

How cute is Ashton? He's so quick to ask for new tasks, or even go to the kitchen to check on Adrian. Except for his horndog behavior, he's one of my top 2 (Kate being the other).

As for how John rounded up enough "friends" to be at his wedding, I noticed the best man said he had only known John for 3-4 years. And the one friend of John who spilled the beans to Tania made me furious. Before/After every horrible story about John he chuckled! Like he was saying "THAT SCAMP!"

I've seen no evidence that Steven is the bio-Dad of that baby. No Way he could come flouncing out of Russia with him without a DNA test at least.

I felt badly for Caroline at first with her infected foot. But DAMN did she turn out to be a whiney butt!! The only thing I remember being requested of her was to "make drinks" but she'd screw it up every time! First she griped to the guests about her foot (no need to do that, even if they asked she could just say "I've seen the Dr. about it--no worries!") Then she got flustered that one time, so much so one of the guests commented about it. Then she broke a glass & got flustered & couldn't get it cleaned up without help. THEN SHE GOT A SINUS INFECTION. Ugh, she was driving me crazy through the tv screen.

Wow that wedding was crazy! MJ was clearly under the influence. I was honestly afraid for her to talk down that long flight of stairs by herself! Why didn't Reza walk her down? I think MJ is beautiful, but I can't imagine her & Tommy becoming parents.

Kalani-"I hate seeing Ansuelu cry. It embarrasses me to death!"

How will Chandler ever find gainful employment after this? He's proven himself to be an awful manager, plus makes mistakes that first timers would (ex: changing channel on the radio). Also he seems to have No personality, so he's not good for drama purposes. If I were Capt Lee, I would never work with him again.

I'm embarrassed to admit how many tears I shed during this episode. From the young lady who was cut the first time being called into the office, to the montages of Lacey & Kashara. I'm very happy for Brennan though! Poor Jalyn, that looks soooo uncomfortable!

Unpopular opinion maybe, but I think VK needs 2-3 years off just to mature some. I thought she stuck out like a sore thumb from the very beginning, and not in a good way. I wish she'd get out on her own, have a job and take more (& more varied) dance classes.

When Darcy and Jesse were arguing at the restaurant, Jesse said something to the effect of "BS. It's all BS except Angelo's pizza." And now that is my new slogan for life.

Man how I wish MTV hadn't come to an agreement with Jenelle. I was hoping that she would try the porno route and be all happy go lucky about it. "Oooh I get to make lots more money than Teen Mom 2 AND film with my true love David." But then the film company watches the Swamp Things first explicit tape and says "No thanks."

The birthday pic above just breaks my heart. Not only is their shared cake not special in the least, but both Jace and Marissa have very stiff/fake smiles. That should be one of the easiest pics to take in a child's life. First day of school pics might be strained, or pics with the whole family (where is hard to get similar smiling expressions from each member at the same time) but a birthday pic with a cake? My kids' faces were always pure excitement/joy! ETA: the pic of the swamp creatures above is hideous. Jenelle & David look like they smell of sweat, stale weed and toxic waste.

We're just assuming he's high, right?

I was happy to see scenes of Jace alone with Jenelle. He seemed more relaxed than he ever does with UBT. But it was also sad that Jenelle seemed completely fake in her interactions with him. She was actually smiling a couple times! Reminded me of when Jay on Modern Family was afraid he was turning into a grumpy old man, so he greets his family that day with a big smile. And everyone thought something was wrong with him! Gloria was like "Ay! Why does your face look like that?!" lol

I remember the scenes of Kaiser as a little baby: when he'd get the least bit fussy, Jenelle would say "Dude!" and carry him into his room and plunk him in his crib to cry it out. Heart-breaking.

Please dear Lord keep these kiddos safe on the 4th. With all Jenelle's and UBT's guns, drugs/alcohol, empty pool, fireworks, I hope no one gets hurt.