Yeah No

In my relationship, I wouldn't have to tell my husband not to tell the family just yet because he wouldn't do it a) without knowing I was ready for it, and b) before we had really decided on anything. It's not up to Tristan to have to tell her not to blab it to anyone. I'm with Tristan on this and that was pretty much his big beef with Mia in their fight afterward. Especially because they don't know each other that well yet, I think she should have erred on the side of caution before making an assumption like that. But everything with Mia is about Mia so she doesn't even think about his feelings.

I still think it's something that both of them have to be ready to tell the family, not something Mia should take upon herself to broadcast without checking with Tristan first. If he was just in the "thinking out loud" stage, which it looks like he was, I think it was too soon to tell them anyway.

Dave suffers from "foot in mouth disease". I'm convinced he doesn't even realize how he sounds sometimes.

Agreed. Also a big pile was Dr. Jessica saying that the "rating" thing was commonly used in counseling. I doubt that, but even if it were, it would be held in confidence between you and your therapist and not blabbed to your partner. Unless you want to make things worse if the rating isn't fantastic.

I honestly don't know how she could have thought her hair looks good that way. She admitted in this episode that it's breaking - Like how much bad stuff has to happen before she realizes she has to make a change? I once had breaking hair from an iron deficiency and due to a big chunk that came off I had to go much shorter. It was hard but I had to face the fact that my hair looked awful - And even with the missing hair it STILL looked better than Amber's! I agree with the person upthread that it looks like she does her own hair. Either that or she goes to a bad professional, probably because they're cheap. It's not even just the color but the cut that is awful. She says she thinks she looks much better as a blonde - Nothing wrong with going blonde, but if you're a brunette you can't be cheap about it or that's what you get. I think Ashley from last season is really a brunette but her cut and dye job are MUCH better.

Tristan is already on the edge with Mia after all the BS she's put him through, but then to out him about the possible move and telling her family that "he's not feeling comfortable" was totally inconsiderate/humiliating, plus I think she threw him under the bus. She acts clueless like she doesn't know why all this would bother him, but I would never have done that to anyone I had just gotten involved with, especially in front of my family. I would have made sure they were OK with talking about such an important and personal development between us first, especially one that was still left undecided. It was like she "accidentally on purpose" wanted him to look bad in front of them. What bothered me even more was the way her sister acted about it. Tristan is always being put in the hot seat by Mia's family (like the way her father grilled him after the wedding), meanwhile Mia herself is arrested, is suspected of stalking a guy, lies multiple times, but HER family is skeptical of HIM? WTF is wrong with this picture? They have some freaking nerve!

I KNEW Claire would turn up pregnant! But is it Josh's? Tune in next year.... I watched the Facebook Live after show and to me it looks like Darren Starr really doesn't know which direction to take the show in next season and is willing to listen to suggestions. He said something about the fights the writers and he have settling on a story line. So no wonder the show is all over the place and flip flopping all the time. Loved how Diana "proved" her devotion to Enzo, but that subplot with the fatberg was almost farcical. Chicky? Seriously? I guess they wanted Liza's decision not to go with that job as justified in more ways than one. Again, almost farcical. I hate how long it is between seasons with this show. I LOVED the scenes in Bryant Park, though. Felt appropriate for many reasons.

I agree with you about Amber, but to be fair, Dave doesn't strike me as the type of guy that lets go of his heart that easily if at all. I agree more with @LennieBriscoe here. He seems like the type to engage in "analysis paralysis" and after picking them apart in his mind he finds enough to convince himself that most any woman is not right for him. Thus he rarely opens his heart enough to include a woman. I think that's one big reason he's still single. The kind of woman that would work for Dave definitely is not a kind, sensitive soul like Amber that doesn't know how to play the game and her cards right to interest a guy like him. The type he would fall for is a super-confident woman that doesn't show vulnerability nor any real interest in him beyond having a good time....for now.

In my opinion, Mia gets an F, so for me that would be a score under 6 out of 10. It's hard to figure out why a person would give their partner a certain score. Was the score a barometer of the intensity of their feelings for the person? Or was it based on how well they feel the person complements them? Or did they base it on how well the person matches what they see as their ideal match? Without knowing that, it's hard to understand the score.

This is pretty much what I was going to post. Amber is sabotaging herself by saying stuff like this, and I am sure she has done this and similar many times or she would not still be single at her age and feeling the sting of her baby clock ticking away. Most men don't like insecure women that they think are too needy. They don't think they can satisfy them. Danielle has the winning formula. She acts happy with herself and with Bobby, which makes him feel more confident that he can please her, so he keeps finding ways to do that because he likes success. I don't love Dave but I do understand why he's lukewarm on Amber and only gave her a 7.5. I do think it was crappy of him to be so brutally honest, though, but he probably wants to get the message across to her so she doesn't get too comfortable with him. Unfortunately, this sets in motion a vicious circle because it will only intensify Amber's insecurity, making her even less attractive to Dave. Dave is not mature enough nor does he care enough about her to want to spare her feelings. He probably isn't even aware of what he's doing in the big picture. I personally think Amber was feeling it in her gut right away that Dave wasn't that into her, so all of her insecure mountain making from molehills was in reaction to that. I don't think her insecurity was based on nothing, although I do wonder how much she exaggerated it in her mind. I think people basically know right away if they and someone else are hitting it off, and I don't think they were.

No, not the same, because a 75 becomes a "C" (a/k/a "average") on a scale of 1-100 only in the context of grades like those given in school, and is an arbitrary number to define what is considered passing. Actually a 75/100 (or 7.5 out of 10) could be a C+ depending on the system used. In that breakdown 70 would be a C. Schools can define the scales and passing grades differently but I think Scruffy73 is essentially correct about this because 7.5 is 75% of 10 just as 75 is 75% of 100. As an old academic, I remember the distribution in the New York schools and my university well: A is 90-100% (A+ could be 95-100 if used) B+ is 85-89% B is 80-84% C+ is 75-79% C is 70-74% D+ is 65-69% D is 60-64% F is 0-59% So if scaled down to a 10 point scale, Amber's 7.5 would be graded a C+ in this system, not a C. By the way in this system 65 (or a D+) was considered passing, despite the grade F corresponding to 0-59%. Anything under that was actually failing.

Both my husband and I fell asleep. I finally watched it today. This wasn't really a "reunion" so I wonder why they even called it that. Except for Sam and Britt, no one reunited with anyone. I don't mind them all together, at least they can share and compare experiences, not that they even let them do that last season anyway.

Me too. She gets a pass from me because Jonathan is so hot. Can't blame her, I'd find it hard to resist that too.

The subject of traveler's checks came up while talking with a friend this weekend. She said she brought several with her in 2005 when she went overseas, but only used one or two and had to cash in the rest. She tried to use them in several places in England and Ireland with no success.

At first, I chalked up the way Liza acts like such a spineless wimp to her not wanting to overstep her "role" boundaries as a young subordinate, but now that most people in her inner circle know her real age, why is she still acting like the inexperienced, air-headed ingenue that blows with every wind and lets herself be pushed around, but doesn't think and act assertively or with her head? The only episode where she showed any real spine at all was the one where she managed to get that manuscript from that eccentric writer for Charles after he gave up on it.

Ditto, and I'm decades older than you! I don't know anyone my age or older that uses them. They went out about the time PCs were invented (by boomers, I might add). That's just ignorance on the writers' part. Are they 20? Do they realize 40 isn't ancient? I just turned 60 and I didn't even think they still made travelers' checks. I doubt most people at 40 would even know much about them. When I went overseas in 2004 I asked well traveled friends if travelers' checks were a good idea, and even back then most people told me they were passé and it was hard to find places that would take them. Now I'm reading that they are not taken in most places anymore and are rarely used. Especially now with "chip and PIN" technology on most US credit cards, they're not needed anymore because you'll have no trouble using your credit card, especially in Europe. So I don't buy this bit with Liza AT ALL. They continue to make her act like she's at least 20 years older and lives under a rock.

A lot of aging SoCal hippies hated what they saw as the milquetoast, popularized, watered-down version of their laid back "takin' it easy" lifestyle as typified by the Eagles. The only thing is that if they looked in the mirror, that is exactly what they themselves had become.

Bobby is a decent guy and is really into Danielle, but he's still on his best behavior in their little romantic "bubble", so I expect one day soon they will eventually have a fight, and when they do, it's going to be a big one, so stand back when the bubble bursts! I just hope that when they land in the real world it doesn't total them and they can move beyond whatever it is. Pastor Cal should just STFU about this "love is not a feeling" stuff. He doesn't know WTF he's talking about. Of course in a romantic relationship you pretty much have to fall IN love with the person or the relationship is doomed. It's not ONLY a rational decision. It is that but it's also the feeling and falling stuff. It's not either/or. He just took all the joy out of it and made marriage seem like nothing but a contract with a friend/roommate. I'm sure that Bobby was sitting there thinking, "Yeah, I'm in love and I love so whatever". Amber is engaging in self-fulfilling self-sabotage. This "I'm obviously not being a good enough wife" self-put-down is so she can feel more comfortable knowing she failed, because succeeding would be even harder for her to handle. It's fear of success. She tells herself she can't succeed so she doesn't. Dave giving her a 7.5 was primarily because that insecurity is killing things between them. I keep saying she should "fake it until she makes it". What is it with those two? Even he is engaging in sabotage by telling her every little critical thought he has about her. That comment in the preview about her perfume being too strong was ridiculous. He is just as bad as she is in his own way. Both of them are acting a lot younger than their chronological ages. Once again Mia is FOS. I haven't been on dating sites in years but from what I recall, they drive you nuts with email so it's virtually impossible not to know your profile is still active. And I don't believe her profile was on there so long that it went dormant and she got no emails.

In other threads going back a ways I predicted two things from this episode. The first is Liza coming to the conclusion that accepting a job offer at another company would "solve" all her problems. Too bad the Martha Plimpton character is the wrong choice for that and can only cause even more problems. I thought, "It's a TRAP, It's a TRAP!" Liza is so desperate to get out of her tangled web that she's careening headlong into another potentially worse one. Yikes. The other prediction I made after the end of last season is that Josh would have gotten his Irish wife pregnant so the show would have a way for him to get children out of his system, opening the door for Liza again. Of course, this is probably an even better solution. Keeping it "all in the family" so to speak. LOL, that's like Jeff Bridges' character in "The Big Lebowski" who famously hated the Eagles, when he was the embodiment of everything they stood for.

I will agree with this. I was sad to see her go*, I thought that she had actual potential and wasn't just there to supply theatrics, unlike a lot of them. But I will say that if she was 60, I'm 50 (I'm actually 60 but she looks much older, in my opinion). * which I didn't actually see because I fell asleep, but heard here.

@Amarsir, you hit that nail on the head! That's exactly how I feel too. I don't mind a little wackiness but with every season it has gotten progressively dominant to the point where it's taken over the entire show now and there's nothing real about it at all. I blame the celebrity edition for this. I think the producers found out that the increased theatrics and cartoon wackiness of the celebrity edition got ratings, so they amped up those aspects of the regular edition as well. I guess it does sell or the show wouldn't have gone in that direction, but to anyone that has any kind of appreciation for seeing genuine novices learn something, it's a real let down. I'm seriously considering dropping it from my repertoire after this season, and I rarely do that. I have to wonder how other people feel about this, though. Often when I think I'm in the minority I find that there's a huge crowd out there online complaining about the same thing, so who knows?

No, you're not alone, I've been saying all along almost ad nauseum by now that Tristan doesn't look sold on Mia and is openly chanting about needing to "build trust" and "not being IN love". I've also gone on and on about my suspicions that there's some kind of incentive given (or legal threat made) to the participants to continue the charade. I guess no one is reading my posts! ;-)

I fell asleep half way through, didn't even bother to rewind.

I see the fact that "who fattens up the most wins" as just a function of survival because that's just the way the world works in a situation like this, whether we like it or not. I don't find it offensive, just a fact. If the show allowed the contestants to roam around more from their base and perhaps find more and better sources of food, they could rely on their skills more than their spare tires. At any rate, for me it's an interesting study in how people adapt and react to extreme circumstances. I don't see Sam as an "irresponsible idiot" because he was doing this to earn money to provide for his family, not looking for adventure for his own purposes. I don't think he would have signed on for another season if on his own, that was very clear to me from his constant confirmation of his purpose there. So that redeems it for me. I admire men that are willing to make extreme sacrifices for their families even if in other ways they aren't my cup of tea.

Yes, I did, I was just pointing out how even though he is one, might have fooled me if I didn't know better. He obviously has many facets and people shouldn't jump to conclusions about what "typical" accountants might be like. Having worked with many accountants I know that first hand.