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Yes, I did account for McDonald's but they were more advanced than most stores at that time. The average gas station mini mart would not have had cash registers that computed change. I worked on a gas station mini mart cash register in the late 80s so it was on my mind. It wasn't until a few years later that the average family run store started to change over in a big way, including the station where I worked. The changeover occurred earlier and faster in big urban areas than other places, plus older establishments took longer to update themselves too. I kind of doubt that Sheldon's friend's family was like a big corporate giant that could afford new cash registers that did that at the time. No but Sheldon seemed hell bent on working way too hard in order to make up for his mistake, I suppose to show his parents he was in earnest plus put on a little bit of a martyr act. I think it would be more like him to refuse any offer of help from his mother in achieving that. He did eventually find a way to take advantage of his neighbor, though, but I think he would see that differently.

I love this show and how it's usually pretty spot-on with the realism from that era, but I have two minor nitpicks having been an adult in that time frame - First is that for $200 they could have probably not paid much more and gotten a whole new fridge. The one they have wasn't new even by that era's standards and probably not worth spending that much on. Second is that cash registers generally didn't tell you what change to give. Not quite yet, anyway. Maybe at some new McDonald's, but not at a typical gas station. Hah, I worked at a gas station mini mart back then and still counted change. There's obviously more than a little Sheldon in me. I was always the one annoyed by sounds and smells no one else noticed! I agree, but I wish they would have put a scene in where Shelley's mom offers to drive him and he declines based on it being too easy or taking away from the "penance" aspect of doing the job.

Oh I know, I've been awake for the last 60 years, but in Neil's case it just made me like him less, not more. It shows good self esteem for others, in his case it just highlights his huge ego, sorry, that's how I see it.

I thought that too, but then I thought perhaps they are trying to show that Amy's expectations of the honeymoon, or their marriage in general are higher than for just being Sheldon's girlfriend. And Sheldon did prime her for it by bringing up the "coitus schedule". Like even his expectations are a little different now. Interesting.

That was worth reading, thanks for posting it!

I went to high school with Neil. Back then I liked him but now I agree, he's a tremendous asshole. I liked that Raj made mention of how big Neil's head and ego are (or something to that effect). And then re: the show making him a bully - Is Neil going along with the gag knowing that people think this of him anyway? Or is his ego so big he doesn't even care? I thought this was a weird episode. It almost felt like it was written differently than the entire series, but I can't put my finger on why.

Yup, I've thought that could be too.

Yes, I got your point but I don't think there's anything unfruitful about looking at him near the end of his life and looking for signs of what was to come. I think it's only natural to do that, and a way to make sense out of something for closure. Tony looked pretty rough in his final photos, like he wasn't getting enough sleep, etc. I found his appearance to be shocking in fact, like he had aged years in a short amount of time. I am wondering if I will see more signs in future episodes. Perhaps it's just because I've never been suicidal, but I find it hard to believe that he could be so thankful for his life on screen in one moment, and buying shoes, then artwork only 2 weeks before his death and then take his life so soon afterward. If he were seriously contemplating it at that point I don't believe he would say or do those things. I've read that some people make the decision to kill themselves and do it shortly afterward so it can happen very quickly and so they wouldn't have much time to show any outward signs beforehand. This may be why it seemed so out of the blue for everyone. He may not have been putting on a happy act, he may have suddenly become that unhappy and killed himself soon afterward. That squares with some of the theories I have heard from friends.

I knew Timmy wouldn't be chosen for the finale and I posted that last week. I knew it would be Bradley and Sarah, but I didn't know which one would win. I was happy it was Bradley, though. While there was hovering by different mentors all along it did seem to me that it was taken to a new height this season. I didn't think either one of the finalists was up to the standard of previous seasons and needed extra hand holding.

Perhaps, but most people I know believe there was more to his suicide than we will ever know. I am continually surprised by all the people in my life that mention this to me without hearing my opinion first. I wasn't even aware that some of these people even knew who Tony was.

I cried at the end. I didn't see that coming. Tony didn't look depressed to me in this episode. Having suffered from clinical depression, I can usually spot the signs. Perhaps this was before it got really bad? It's still hard for me to fathom.

Exactly!

Oops, my mistake! Not sure this was ever mentioned here, but Robert's awful talk show was cancelled so that may be a reason he's back on FN.

Ha ha, 62 year old Mr. Yeah No wishes Bobby was his nephew instead of his actual nephews who are the poster children for everything negative about the Millennial generation (Still live at home post 30, hate the boomer generation, etc.), so you nailed that! Yeah, as opposed to our nephews that isolate themselves at family gatherings and talk about us negatively behind our backs, no lie!

AMEN!! I'm no fan of Dave's. His act is smooth and confident, but I see deeper than that. He acts effete and above it all, and personally I don't find him that attractive. If anyone deserves the label "Dallas douche", it's him! My 62 year old husband thinks Dave relates to Amber like she was another guy, not like a woman. He seems to be able to relate to his bros just fine, hence the wall of male buddies in his hallway plus the way he relates to Bobby. He treats Bobby with more warmth than Amber! This also from my husband:

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Thanks, although I think she's finally found a nice guy.....At least he seemed that way when I met him. Fingers crossed!

I agree but I can't see said divorced 50 something men wanting to rush to the altar with her. I think she would attract the burned-out-on-marriage type that doesn't want to get married again, which most of them in that category are anyway. So I don't know what her chances of happiness are in that scenario unless she decides she doesn't need to be married. One of my oldest friends is a lot like Amber, down to the long blonde mane. She was never married - stayed in a not so great long term relationship with an older divorced guy that already had kids. She desperately wanted to be married but it never happened and now she's 60 and finally free of that relationship, now dating a guy her age. I think she finally got over being married. Perhaps doing this show will help Amber get over needing to be married since she's already done it!

That's strange because I assumed that Paramount already had more viewers because Comcast broadcasts it in HD and not TVLand.

I'm vintage too and speaking of Baby Jane, I never saw it but TCM recently showed it and it's waiting on my DVR for me to watch it! I get a lot of old movie references because I'm an old movie buff, so go right ahead. What a GREAT movie THAT is!! I love it that there are people younger than me that love these old movies!

I think it's the way Dave approaches these discussions that comes off as judgmental. Saying right off that bat that he thinks it's sad that she's never been able to trust anyone in a relationship in that tone does come off rather "judgy" and superior. Amber takes it as a criticism to heart and doesn't fight back. And I think it is a criticism coming from him. I would be turning it around on him to his face saying, "Oh, so you've always trusted everyone you've dated 100%?" Like who made HIM perfect? I'd call him out on it because I think he is full of shit, sorry. Even if she went into the story about it he'd probably just give her some smug condescending advice like he's the expert and she's just the pitiful loser. I don't blame her for not wanting to open herself up to that. I wouldn't either. He's not capable of turning that into a positive exchange. With him it's just more criticism disguised as concern and advice.

Maybe I am making some assumptions, but I feel like I know Dave and what he's all about. I dated a guy similar to Dave once and I found out after getting dumped that my insecurities were well founded. With him I was reduced to being suspicious and paranoid about every woman he looked at, and I'm really not like that in general. My gut was accurately sensing that I couldn't trust him and that he wasn't into me. The only difference is that I didn't broadcast my insecurity to him on a loudspeaker the way Amber is. I know better than to make things worse by looking like "that girl". Though I might casually ask why there was women's underwear sitting in his laundry basket, you know, stuff like that (he told me it was his sister's from when she visited, yeah right). The one time I told him I had the feeling he was seeing someone else he told me it was all in my head. It was NOT. So I can totally see how someone like Dave can bring out things in a woman that aren't normal for her to feel. Everyone is a little insecure but a guy who acted like him would make anyone suddenly a LOT more insecure. I'm not saying that I think Dave is cheating on Amber or would cheat, just that he isn't into her, which I think we already know. Also, we don't know what Dave may have told Amber about his dating history. He may have told her that in the past he dated a few women at the gym, so she is primed to wonder how prone to doing that he is. I am suspicious because somehow the audience hasn't been told ANYTHING about Dave's romantic history. I find that this show wants to edit people to look either better or worse than they are to suit its own purposes. I agree with the poster in the other thread that said that Amber is getting the bad edit in that relationship. Whatever it is about Dave's past probably would make him look worse, so the show isn't telling us about it and Dave would certainly hide it, whatever it is. Meanwhile the show made sure we knew that Amber dated "Dallas douches", and Amber doesn't hide stuff like that. So of course the audience thinks he's OK and she's not. But where I come from I trust Amber much more than I'd ever trust Dave.

Wish she could have convinced Dave to get them, LOL.

I agree and I said something very much like this in the other thread. Great minds think alike! Good point about how it might just be producer manipulation! We all know that's what this show does best (or worst depending on your perspective). I think Bobby really is the "young kid/lost puppy". He is obviously a relationship newbie.

I don't know, Timmy doesn't look like the type Anne can trust to represent her, while Bradley does. I've been leaning toward her picking Bradley and when it gets to this point I've never been wrong about who she picks. Of course there is always a first time! I guess we'll see if you're right!