Goldmoon

I was so pleased to be getting rid of Nate, then I came here and learned that his daughter is sick. I didn't want personal tragedy to be the factor that got him gone! I hope his kid is all right. That said, really glad Nate is gone or reduced to cameos. Can Mona please follow him? Part of this ep felt old school LoT, the part with the minotaur. I really liked the show for the first time in several episodes, but the Mona character is unnecessary and grating, and yes, Felicia Day levels of off-putting. I agree with the poster above that we need Gideon in human form on the ship. I think the show, Andromeda, did that with their AI. Plus give me Jonah Hex and I will stop bitching about Mona.

Starfish - FD absolutely trashed Eureka from season 4.5 onward. I have no idea why the powers that be think characters like that are awesome. NCIS:LA was pretty good in its first year but in season two they brought in Nell. Nell would not stop chattering, knew how to do Eric's job better than he, and was too perfect for words. I put up with her for about two episodes and couldn't stand it any longer. I hope you are right about Mona being more than she appears. I have no patience for Mary Sues.

A little Gary goes a long way but I like him. For now. I am concerned about Mona. I think they are setting her up to be the adorkable Felicia Day character that makes me - and thousands of others - want to throw a brick through the tv.

Stopping by to defend Ray's hair! I want it as long and lovely as it was in last season's finale. Don't like Ava anyway and she was nigh unbearable in this episode. She totally deserved the prank. Don't like children either, so this episode is a total miss for me, however - Mick and Charlie can bond and can romance or not. What I don't want to see is for Charlie to transfer her attention from Mick to Nate or whoever like Amaya did. Let Mick have a girl bestie! Especially since Ray left Mick for Nate as well. In fact, let me just say the second best part of this ep, besides Mick and Ray'sHair was the absence of Nate. More please. Or is that less please? When they named the Striga I thought they should call Dean and Sam Winchester for help!

Please give us a Mick romance at last! He and Amaya seemed to be heading that way until Nate preempted them. Also, Mona is ok as is, but I hope they don't turn her into some kind of "Sue" who can do no wrong and has abilities far beyond believeable.

I am not looking forward to adding the new folks but I will trust the creators until they let me down.

Just popping by to say I was able to identify where I'd heard Jane Carr's distinctive voice thanks to dkb She was Londo Molari's "favorite" wife, Timov, on Babylon 5.

Agree dkb. Maybe we can finally get rid of Nate although tptb seem to like him. ?

Who played fg? I know her from somewhere when she was much younger and it's making me crazy. Loved the pork appearance, especially Nate talking to Ray.

I think I know why this show is falling flat. In the 70s and '80s, shows like Maude and Murphy Brown were *different.* Viewers were a bit surprised to find political commentary mixed in with their entertainment. Since the elections, Bill Maher, Trevor Noah, and the cast of SNL "comment" on current events constantly. There is no novelty here, therefore no need for it.

Why isn't there commentary here? Did viewership drop off?

I haven't watched in several years but thought this was the Halloween ep so I stopped by. The president was at fault too - did he really think that was ok to do anything without speaking to Amy?

Great cameo! However not funny.

Need individual threads I guess. I just watched the first two. The casting director should be fired. Dana is the only one with presence in the whole cast. Groban is so bland they must have ordered up bland mcblanderson for this show. The girlfriend is bland, the partner is bland and embarrassing (the only black guy in the cast has disengaged because he is getting close to retirement so we can watch him sleeping at his desk and not caring about the cases), and the chief is bland. The nerd who assists (is he forensics?) Has potential.

I don't get why Liv was getting applause at the end. What the hell did she do to deserve it? Also, she was very unlikeable when she "rescued herself," gag. And why would you bring more folks into Seattle to make zombies. The only good notes for me were seeing Vampire Steve and Johnny Frost. This show has gone so far downhill I don't know if I can watch next season.

I decided to sit this season out (while reading these threads) but nearing the finale, I thought I would stop in and see the eps to lead up to it. I couldn't get through last week's ep without ff-ing and I am yet to finish this week's. These are so BADLY done. I was planning to binge watch this season on Netflix but if the finale doesn't impress me, I don't think I will bother with any more of anything SPN.

Like someone we care about. Donna and Jodi. And more Donna.

I do wish they had left in the stinger about Hawking, but we didn't need filler, so I was ok with the 30 (more like 15) minute show. They didn't have time to insert awkward jokes.

RAINSMOM, I blame MH. He had enough power and clout to have someone convince PP to be in a scene with her if he wanted it to happen. He chose not to so he didn't want to. I haven't watched this show since the end of season seven (I loathed Ziva) but I tuned in for MW's exit and PP's. This does put such a damper on the earlier closeness PP and MH's characters had shared. What a bummer. Oh, almost forgot, I came here to say it's too late for PP or MW to worry about getting typecast.

This was my favorite episode of the season and most of it is down to Clive, who I have never been that fond of. Lampshading the trope, then having him do exactly that trope was hilarious. I enjoyed seeing Vampire Steve again, and appreciated that Liv got to be herself somewhere in the middle. Then she must have had another bite of Daddy Mars, because she went all Die Hard again. I think Chase is turning out to have some good characterization, finally. I not only want Angus off my screen, I am truly tired of psychopath/cold-blooded-murderer Blaine getting to live without consequences. It's too bad they like the actor so much. I really don't see his charm and never did. The FG and Zombified Seattle storyline was too ambitious. I really miss the first two seasons when the whole issue was the case of the week. I hope this show gets cancelled.

Abby's skillset is far more developed than what is required to help at a charity. Not that they don't do good work, but she invents ways to solve crimes. The only realistic way for her to go is to die. She is not a coward so wouldn't be a good candidate for witsec. If Tony had gone to Ireland or Spain to run his own team and called to say he had an opening for a forensic specialist, they could have written her off as going to see Tony and have an adventure! Alas, Tony's skills as an investigator are probably rusty by now. Sigh.

First the shallow: Ray is looking FINE with his longer hair. Yum! And I say this as "not the biggest Ray fan" in the Arrowverse. And while I'm at it, Zari was looking HOT in the final scene. Yay to Garstintine! Yay to Zarnah! Did anyone else get peeved that Sara had all the amulets in her hand when they fought the three armies? Just me then? The ones who wield the totums could have used them during the fight. I really miss Jax. All Hail Beebo! Edited to add: Why oh why couldn't Nate have gone with Amaya? Of the two of them we had to lose the one that we like? I suppose Nate could grow up a bit if he isn't distracted by his hormones in the next season. Maybe he could have a threesome with Constantine and Gary.

Really surprised that I enjoyed the way they incorporated John Noble into the episode. More Mick please!

Gary and Constantine. Ok, I will take John if he hooks up with Gary. I can't believe they titled an episode after John Noble, though.

Hey, Audience, take it easy. I have heard the movie Chinatown mentioned since I am pushing sixty years old (yikes), but never knew what it was about. I needed Clive to explain it too! My pop culture probably crosses with yours at many points, but not all. I think, as in Vampire Diaries, Enzo is short for Lorenzo, which, while it sounds more Italian to me, would work as a French name. Bad episode all around.