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Yeah, this episode was a little boring. I had really high hopes for this reboot, with these show runners, and it's sometimes living up to that, but this one definitely did not. I wasn't even sure what the point of Rayna and Deacon rehashing everything was, and Rayna just came off kind of like a bitch half the time. I did like the scene where they finally got it together and managed to collaborate...my honey, who is a musician, thought it came off fairly authentic and well done, too. I could NOT care less about Scarlett and Gunnar at this point, especially since they've completely revised the history we all saw to make Gunnar a bad boy who treated Scarlett terribly. And I completely loathe the whole 'this guy is an emotionally abusive dick but he taught me more about myself than I'd ever known before' bullshit with the storyline. I also truly wanted to smack Scarlett for 'Ima tell you something about having feelings for another guy but you can't react' conversation. That was ridiculous. As was Hoda's convenient question: 'So Scarlett, did the making of this video CHANGE you?'....what an inorganic, weird interview query just to push the story. I don't HATE Maddie as much this season but there is far too much of her, and I have no idea what Clay is doing with her or why. No Avery means it's never going to be the best episode.

I took it to be more an 'I'm an actor whose job it is to look hot with no shirt' thing, but that could be part of it too.

I weirdly honestly do dislike all of the 'girls' most of the time; they have never, beyond a moment or two, been consistently likable. Yet I feel sad that the show is ending, and not ready to say goodbye to them. I have little explanation for that. I love Elijah and want the happiest ending for him they can muster. Like he gets the REAL Anderson cooper and a job doing "Hedwig" on Broadway. I like Ray but he's so stupid for thinking Marnie is his great love that I don't even care anymore. I do still wonder if Adam and Hannah are supposed to be end game. They shouldn't be. I was actually largely charmed by Jessa and Adam until the season finale last year.

Plenty of chubby people grow up to be obese tho. So do some skinny folks. I wonder what Metz looked like as a teen? Beth was definitely talking about her dad when she was showing the girls the memory box, but she mentioned to Randall that neither of them had been prepared for their fathers' deaths.

Did they say five months? I heard five-city, so I assumed it would be couple weeks or something. Five months is a pretty long time for a marriage to withstand one partner/parent being AWOL.

I thought it was odd, too, but then I kind of thought she was feeling really happy and secure at that moment, after they had such a romantic night, and thought that it wouldn't be such a big deal, that they could get thru anything and Jack would be okay with it. Or something. Yeah, we've seen the teen actress before and she looks a lot like Chrissy Metz, but she's only a little pudgy, not even close to obese. She's very cute. I think she always had a weight problem, but it only truly escalated until she was an adult. Or, perhaps, til after Jack died.

I don't have a problem with Rebecca going off on a brief music tour. The kids are teens, they can take care of themselves after school til Jack gets home). It's not ideal, and Jack might hate it and I don't blame him, but it's not a deal breaker, I'd think, and it doesn't make Rebecca a bad mom.

I do think it's a pre-agreed upon marital touchstone, but it still bugged me. Surely there should still be some communication involved with it? Not just an absolute veto in which no details are needed? If Randall had felt he was about to lose his job over this chess match, and he kind of did feel that way, I think, surely that would be more important. But he meekly went along with Beth and the 'I call marriage' veto, so maybe not. I'm hoping that doesn't mean there is infidelity and divorce in Rebecca and Jack's marriage. Yes, all true. But people DO look up folks from much longer ago than that, and clearly, Sophie has also thought of Kevin often, and so it doesn't seem unlikely to me. But apparently she did not. I agree her running all over the place was one of those annoying behaviors that's supposed to seem all dramatic or something, and it was ultimately just sort of stupid. I can kind of understand her mixed emotions; she clearly still has feelings for Kevin. I personally wouldn't cross the street to talk to my ex, who I was married to for 14 years, BUT I also wouldn't have agreed to meet him and then flounce out dramatically. But I still like Sophie. That might be true for some, but it would still earn a big ick from me. And I have no problem at all with Kate actually wanting donuts and hot sex, I just want her to own it without some pushy, creepy guy telling her it's what she wants. And break up with Toby first. I liked Miguel's little story (tho it was yet another monologue) about the coffee; I appreciated the minutiae of it all. Sometimes marriages DO die with a bang, but just as often, it's with a whimper. I thought the actor delivered it all nicely.

Yeah, that bugged me too. Lots of folks who aren't really friends any more in real life are still FB friends. So are ex spouses. So are ex sisters in law (I am with my brother's ex), so yeah, I wish they'd shown that there was still some connection between the family and Sophie, in that way. She also would have known Randall and Beth--none of them stayed even peripherally in touch? Guess not. I would have preferred that as well. Also, was there a hint of incredulity or amazement from Sophie when Kevin mentioned Kate was engaged? It seemed so to me.

I agree Kate would never make a move, and so Toby being persistent wasn't a bad thing. I'm a staunch feminist and independent as hell, but...well, hell, I like a guy to make the first move, for sure. Toby making his interest clear was fine, for me, but he did persist even when she told him no, several times. It worked for them, just like it works sometimes in real life. That didn't so much bother me, but if he'd really been someone she was absolutely not interested in, it would have evolved into being stalkery. I get why some people found it stalkery from the get go, tho. But it's also considered romantic by many, especially in entertainment. Duke is just a dick, tho.

I'm not into aggressive people at all, in general, but I do like a guy who can take charge when he needs to, or when I can't or don't want to handle something. I doubt that's an actually unpopular opinion. The prob with the 'aggressive' guys on this show--Toby and Duke--is that they're also assholes. Toby is well meaning but oversteps way too much and while I don't actually think Duke is rapey, I do think he's predatory and creepy.

I assumed chili fries too. But they weren't eating them in the am, were they? Kevin ordered them the first time they were at the diner, which I assumed was lunch or afternoon. Did they get them for breakfast too? Everyone monologues on this show. I am uncertain I have ever monologued in real life, but last nite, Rebecca did it, Kevin did it, Beth did it, etc. Take a breath, people. Kate...ugh. Toby is incredibly obtuse and invasive and has no clue about boundaries, but you say you love him, you accepted his proposal. Her even being tempted by Horse Dick is so boring. He is so gross. I don't even like Toby but I was itching for him to punch Duke in the face. I think perhaps Kate could do better than either of them, but then again...she's seriously no prize herself, and it has nothing to do with the weight. I cut her slack for all her issues, and how they've affected her emotionally, but she's just too passive aggressive and whiny. She wears on my nerves. Kevin is ridiculously charming. I loved the little diner interlude with Marla Gibbs and her hubby, and her recognizing him as the Manny. I like Sophie. I think she SHOULDN'T fall for him again, it's unlikely to go anywhere good, but I do actually believe he does love her, despite the infidelity. I would personally not give a cheater another chance, but I understand her weakness for him. He's just so glimmery and gold and shiny, he glitters when he walks, and he gets away with murder. He will probably blow this, and I certainly hope Sophie actually breaks up with the 'solid, good' man she's dating (and I do hate that 'solid' in TVland means dull, because after dating various charming big talkers who take up all the air in the room, a good, solid, drama free man is actually the sexiest thing on earth for me) and doesn't cheat on HIM. I do not want to find that Rebecca and Jack divorced before his death (which, yes, I believe was telegraphed to us last nite as happening abruptly, without warning). Rebecca going on the road with hot-eyed bandmate doesn't bode well, and I don't think it will be the end of them, but it could certainly cause a rift. Being the one left behind while your partner is away pursuing a dream that involves dark bars and romantic ballads can't be easy. I have never hated Miguel, still don't, but last nite was the first time I found him even remotely attractive. Or at least, not UNattractive. I see others are charmed by Beth's "I call marriage" but I wasn't really. Bossing your spouse/partner around, no matter if you're right or not, is not pretty to me. Poor Randall really is at the end of his emotional rope, but I'm uncertain that was helpful. I'm hoping his hand tremors are anxiety-related and not a precursor to Parkinson's or something.

I have very intense and mixed emotions about this book, and i'm uncertain I can even explain them all, so I won't try. I found it riveting, tho, and Wavy Quinn haunts me. Please let us know what you think once you've finished. I just read Shot in the Heart by Mikal Gilmore. It's over 20 years old, but somehow it had flown under my radar, tho I was fascinated by the whole Gary Gilmore saga since I was a teenager. It's one of the most disturbing, beautifully written memoirs I've ever read. If any book actually deserves to sit next to In Cold Blood as a true crime 'novel', it's this one. And it's not the crimes, really, of Gary Gilmore that I'm talking about here..it's the crimes of his, and his brothers', forefathers. What Gary became was perhaps inevitable, and it's truly miraculous that Mikal didn't follow in his footsteps.

I just saw this item in the news and immediately thought of Hannah. She would so do this, and we already know she doesn't wear undies to work. http://okcfox.com/news/local/police-substitute-teacher-exposes-self-to-students-during-cartwheel?utm_content=bufferd02b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

It's based on his old "One Day at a Time"...is he involved in this production too? I haven't watched it.

I hate all of these women, really. Much like the girls of Girls and the women of Sex n the City, they're all sort of terrible and despicable and stupid. Why do I keep watching? Phoebe, in particular, with her "money woes", makes me me want to smack her pretty face. So you can't afford a hotel room, but you can afford a $4k dress? Who writes checks? And don't most retail establishments have that kind of check reader that immediately deducts the funds, so that if she DIDN'T have it in her account, it would be declined as surely as her credit card? And she only has one credit card, or are they all maxed out? And she's too proud to ask to sleep in one of her friends' room, but not too proud to sleep outside in a hammock? Where was her luggage during all of this? And does everyone dress up like Cher when they go see her? And aren't these women just a little too long in the tooth for this shit? And I missed a scene...but was Jo having sex with the gay guy? She's so hot even 30 year old homosexuals want her? Um, really? And Delia 'never meant to hurt' whatshisface? If you sleep with somebody else, you don't care if you're hurting your SO, so shut up. I'm at least glad he told her 'no way'. And Abby...again with the spindly heels at a baseball game and the stupid hairdos. What does the hot coach see in her, anyway, seriously?

I don't disagree in general either...yes, women should be able to say 'fuck off, you asshole' and I hope most do, and we aren't delicate flowers who can't deal with big bad self confidence destroying dicks. However, it's still a good thing to call the assholes out on it, and identify the behavior, I think.

He doesn't now, but he DID, so that the bullies at his old school are probably still friends of Kevin's, and were probably at the party. Tho I wouldn't care what the rules were, if some kids bullied my child, they're sure not coming to my house to eat cake.

good point! that makes me feel much better, and like I can just dismiss this as someone's overwrought fanfic theory.

I'd seen that 9/11 speculation as well, and I really truly hope that's not it. that just smacks of too much emotional manipulation and exploitation even for this show. I hope.

I felt like it was bizarro world on FP, or I guess I just know nothing about fashion: they hated my fave of the night--Thandie Newton's gloriously strange and surreal and gorgeous shiaparelli, but they loved Nicole Kidman's parrot monstrosity and Salma Hayek's yellow and pink nightmare. I love both those actresses and usually love their fashion, but those two were just fugly to me. but what do I know? At least everyone loved Yara Shahidi's beautiful Neem Khan stripey dress, that was so fun. I hate Nene. And Melissa.

I have no rational explanation for her, or for me..in that she is my fave 'girl'. I find Marnie much more irritating, selfish and reprehensible most of the time. And, in fact, absolutely none of the 'girls' have very many redeeming characteristics, and I have no idea why anyone would be friends with any of them. I'm still torn on the Mimi-Rose thing and just HOW terrible it might have been, or not been. As in: I'm still not completely sure what the status of Adam and Hannah's relationship was. She left NY, and seemingly left him. They appeared to have been broken up. So introducing the ex boyfriend of your friend to someone else so you could get to HER ex boyfriend seems psychotic and dubious, but not necessarily evil. And her becoming involved with Adam SHOULD be all kinds of 'nope, you don't do that to a friend', and yet, I find them very sweet together. I like Jessa's free spiritedness, her beauty, her occasional sweetness (Marnie's wedding, where she saved the day). These are shallow reasons, I'm aware. But I could make a case for each of the other girls being just as terrible as her, or even worse, so maybe that's my answer.

those of you over fifty with no wrinkles, sags or grey hair: I hate you. possibilities: this show has yet to make me cry, but your sweet, sad cat story just did.

I think the coach is handsome too (and he might be a jerk, but Abby is such an annoying ditz to him that I almost feel it's warranted). I also think JD is cute, and several men of the past are attractive as well. I even think Paul Adelstein is cute. It's mostly Delia's men I find so creepy and unattractive. And Frumpkis. But please, yes, bring Scott back.

I do love 4 Weddings and a Funeral. I like Andie Mcdowell, but her character is also an asshole in this one, and why he's so fascinated with her is hard to fathom. But Grant and his pals are all so charming, and I like the bittersweet melancholy of it all, even when it's hilarious. I actually watched a great deal of it last week when I ran across it. I don't care for rom-coms, but that doesn't mean I haven't seen a bunch of them, for various reasons. I probably have the same general 'do I've had for years too. It's been a lot of diff colors, but it's mostly been past shoulder length and wavy most of my life. Not sure Mandy Moore has really changed her look much in the past 15 years either. I have no real problem with Rebecca having the same hair for a lot of her life. Until she's in her 60s, apparently, and gets frumpy and lighter and wiggier.