luna1122

Two men. Just two men. And both instances were in 'fat' places: WW and the fat camp, where all the women are fat. Of all the fat women, maybe Kate is the prettiest. It's just not mind boggling to me. But I'll stop beating the dead horse. Also, somebody needs to beat CreepyHorse guy. I agree he's predatory and presumptive and gross.

I fell in love twenty times by the time I was ten, once with a older boy of 16. Not that anything at all happened with any of it, and maybe boys are different, but I have no real problem with the idea of ten year olds thinking they're in love. I thought it was established that Rebecca was 6 years younger than Jack? So she'd have been 40 at the party. Neither looks 40 or 46, that is definitely true, but it's not unheard of for women to have babies at 40. The kids definitely looked like teenagers at the funeral. Had it been 2006, they'd be in their twenties. Notting Hill kind of sucks, but I'm not a rom com gal either. And I hate Julia Roberts, so there's that.

Yeah, Abby has moments of clarity and likability, but they are few and far between. She's making Carrie Bradshaw look evolved and mature. And her clothes--that's her idea of a good outfit for a sports bar? Her teetering around on spindly 5 inch spikes and her inappropriate clothes and her weirdly tortured 'dos (Lisa Edelstein has some of the world's best hair, why do they keep doing this to it?) just age her. She doesn't look young n cool, she looks wound tight and trying too hard, like somebody's desperate housewife mom. Which she basically is. and yes, why on earth would the coach be remotely attracted to her at this point? I have a very very hard time feeling any kind of sympathy for Phoebe. I didn't realize that her last alimony check was for more than I make a year. Poor Phoebe, having to let go 'the weekend nanny' and her arborist and her psychic advisor or whatever. I want to smack her every time she bemoans her having to 'cut back'. Is Scott not coming back, really? he's so pretty.

No, but I'm a big girl. Yeah, Kate is VERY big. But she's still pretty, and these guys...well, they aren't Ryan Gosling. They are hitting on a woman they think they can get, and it's not very many guys, at that. No, most guys are not going to hit on her. But these two fat jerks are. It's not really any more unbelievable to me than the chicks on "girls" or "sex and the city" getting hit on all the time. I mean, it's all a little unbelievable, esp when I know really pretty women who can't score a date, but it's TV.

I don't know. I definitely got more male attention when I was young and thin, but being old n fat hasn't stopped it. I get hit on and catcalled on buses and walking down the street and eating lunch in my office building cafe. Not with the frequency of when I was younger and thinner and prettier, thank goodness, but it still happens. Of course, even if I were not in a relationship, many of these are not guys I'd give the time of day, let alone date. Kind of like Toby and HorseCreep. I'm gonna need a show of hands of women here who would actually be interested in either of those guys; I'm going to imagine it's a short list. And not cuz they're overweight, but because they're douchebags. Also, I kind of think Toby and horse guy were like "well, she's fat and desperate, even I probably stand a chance with her", not because they're really truly panting with desire over her. I do agree it's all weirdly written, how immediately sexual these guys are, and maybe the writers are really overcompensating. But...large women do find love and sex all the time. It's not that unusual. (And...it's not always with a fat guy, either, writers.) And we've seen exactly TWO men express interest in Kate. Men are not just falling at her feet. Which is why she falls for their BS, cuz she's not used to the attention. I hope the guy who called a size 14 woman fat on the street got a mouthful of fist. Or at least a 'fuck off, troglodyte" I'd love to be a size 14 again. I do agree that some women would find HorseCreep not creepy if he looked like Kevin or Randall, but ugh, gross. He'd still be an asshole.

I'm guessing they've kept in touch in some cursory way. Facebook, friends, whatever. Hell, I just hope we don't find out there's a kid we didn't know about and that's why they still kept in touch. (I don't actually expect that to be the case.) Also, where is Toby staying while he recuperates? Did Kate just quit her job, and how is she supporting herself/paying for surgery and 'fat camp'? And what did Toby do for a living, and he is planning to move to NY when/if he marries Kate, as long as she doesn't bone gross horsey guy? baha. Who's on first? The text that Sophie sent to Kevin merely asked 'where?'.

I agree it's probably not fair to judge anyone on one behavior at age ten. I do hope, tho, that if there are scenes between Kate and Sophie and if she WAS one the mean girls, they actually talk about it a little bit. Or...probably they already would have, if she was Kate's sister in law for years.

But you can't control what they might eat at school or someone else's house. Kate has access to food there that they may not give her at home. And an allowance, probably, to buy junk they may not know about. I'd imagine that there is some metabolic issue too, with her. I don't think it's necessarily that they don't like him. He just said they aren't his friends. He's a little introvert/nerd, who goes his own way and doesn't really care if everyone likes him. Lots of kids are like that, and it's not a matter of others not LIKING them. They're just more loners or prefer to only get close to a few. I always had several very close friends (who are still, by and large, my friends today) but not sure I would have scored a bunch of kids at my birthday party either. (I grew up a JW, no birthday parties). And sure, there is probably, sadly, some racism happening too. I do think grown up Kevin is very charismatic, but child Kevin is no cuter or more charming than any of the others. Less, even.

Yeah, apparently fat guys are all horny, pushy, gross douchebags in "this is us"-land. Tho I liked Toby far more last nite, interacting with Kevin. They were kind of hilarious. (But "Notting Hill" sucks, no matter how charming and floppily adorable Hugh Grant is. Julia Roberts' character is an asshole.) If Kate actually falls for this guy, I'm gonna want to smack her. I get, after Jack, that she would be attracted to guys who make big gestures and are big personalities. But big personality does not have to mean creepy, sexually harassing freak with no boundaries. So Kevin had a wife and a divorce at 24, to his childhood sweetheart. That WAS a twist. I love Alexandra Breckenridge and think she can add depth and interest to the role, so I'm looking forward to seeing how this all pans out. If she WAS one of the mean girls who dissed Kate, I hope it's eventually addressed. The idea of all those kids in one house is my like my version of a circle of hell. I do not care if the Madonna outfits were less than current for the day. The looks they were wearing were iconic Madonna, if not necessarily timely. And a bunch of ten year olds in cone bras would not be something I need to see, or hopefully no parent would allow. In those shades, William looked dead on like a less-grey Sonny Rollins. Precious little Randall, already knowing the value of good, true friends over a crowd.

I think the thing is: Andy isn't really such a sweet guy--he wound up being a cheating cheater, and the fact that Beth was cheating too doesn't negate it. And that aside....I think my problem with him is that I've seen Andy Devine just play too many smarmy creeps--not charming dorks--and play them all too well. I should be able to separate those roles, but often I can't quite seem to. And I LIKE Haley, she amuses the hell out of me, but she's not an especially nice person, so I don't know that I especially root for her to wind up with a nice, sweet guy, anyway. And it bugged me when she told Andy he was her first real love. That's revisionist BS: unhealthy or ill fated or not, Dylan was her first real love. I often hate Cam too and his neediness, but Eric Stonestreet is so good I still don't REALLY hate him. I do tend to hate Claire. I would loathe her if I knew her. But that's also partly my own bias, I think: I have never liked Julie Bowen, ever, in any role. I think she's often quite good, so it's not that. Sometimes a certain actor will just rub you the wrong way from the get-go, and she does, for me.

I think McRaney is great, and love his delivery...but I don't care to watch much more of Dr. McFolksy. I'm fine with him being a peripheral character, but don't need or want to see him in his own storyline again. I don't care about Generation Whatever either. I don't hate Miguel. I don't mind that Rebecca married again, why shouldn't she? But I still do mind her marrying Miguel, mostly cuz he's just not very cute or appealing or attractive in any way that I can see. I'm shallow.

While I guess there could be more to why Rebecca was acting so bitchy than pregnancy hormones (tho I kind of don't think so, especially in light of her repeatedly saying he was perfect later), and I have no objection to seeing more of the pre-pregnancy side of Jack n Rebecca's story, but can we please please PLEASE never have to see the birth-day again? Thanx, show. Milo doesn't look dirty or greasy to me, but I still wouldn't object to bathing and shampooing him.

I'm not following this. The Xmas episode segments that featured Dr. K was only, what 8 years or so after this one? 1988 or so? Not present day, he was in flashbacks. His wife was born in 1909, I'm assuming he's supposed to be roughly the same age, so he'd be about 80 by then. Maybe even 85. He was married to his wife for 53 years. Not getting the age 49 thing, which clearly he is long past.

I like Reagan. I just couldn't believe Schmidt didn't already wax everything. He's just that guy. The Asian dumb guy model Jess n Reagan found was beautiful.

Ha. I thought maybe the term crouch was something I needed to be a millennial to get.

Exactly. Her histrionics and screeching for attention make me want to smack her, but then I remember being that age. I was no doubt just as obnoxious, and can't even imagine how I'd have been on a TV show. Still want to smack her tho. Laura Petrie woulda rocked the hell out of that outfit too. Also LOVED the shoes with it. I kept seeing Samantha Jones in that outfit. She would totally wear it. With Heidi Klum's over the knee shiny silver hooker space boots.

I thought this was a nice episode. Just that, nice. This show still hasn't made me actually cry, tho there was a moment in this one where I almost did, tho I can't remember which moment now. I think when Jack told Rebecca about losing the baby. Mandy sold that one. "That's not true!". She also sold some of the more comedic moments. I am fairly immune to cheese and schmaltz, and that is what this show is, but I still LIKE it. It just never quite moves me the way it obviously really really wants to. I didn't watch "brothers and sisters" and really only know Ken Olin as Micheal Steadman, and I loved him, but I can see he does like his cheese. I didn't even know he and Patricia Wettig had a daughter who was an actor. Do we hate her or something? They really are setting up Jack for a fall by making him SO PERFECT. or are they? maybe he's just perfect. I like Gerald McRaney, he's a really good actor, and he also ALMOST made me cry at his wife's grave, but I don't care THAT darned much about Dr McFolksy. Susan Blakely looks really good for a nearly 70 year old. McRaney is barely older--not quite 70 yet-- than her but looks a good 10-15 years older. He always looked older than he actually is/was. I think he's playing a little older too, than he really is, on this show. He mentioned he'd been married to his wife for 53 years, which means his blushing bride was a mere 17 when they married. Maybe he was too, but probably a little older.

oh, yeah, I'd completely forgotten that. Tho of course, they're fairly newfound cousins. At any rate, I don't remember if they've ever really had scenes together, but I liked it.

I'm hoping this Juliette redemption arc thing isn't going to go TOO religious-y, but so far, I get it. She's really grappling with why she was spared when everyone else died in that crash, so I get her trying to find some answers and some peace. I have a harder time with her 'angel's' explanation: somebody was trying to show you that you ARE worth it, and you can change. Not the rest of the folks on the plane, they're worthless but you--you're special. whatever. I heart Avery so very much, and, like everyone else, want to see more of him hangin' with the guys. I am the only one, apparently, but I feel bad for how Layla is just joke fodder now (and Will is one to talk about Avery being a psycho magnet, you attracted the same 'psycho'). Also, I'm gonna get tired of seeing Juliette push him away yet again. I do hope some of this leads to him ditching or at least sidelining the producing occasionally to sing some more. I like how interconnected everyone seems now, tho it's kind of unrealistic and sentimental. Have we ever seen Maddie and Avery even speak to each other before? And now he's helping her score a job and giving her hugs. And a couple episodes back, Scarlett was being all big sisterly to Maddie, tho I couldn't recall them ever really interacting before either. But whatever. It makes them all seem like a big family, and it's kind of sweet. Maddie's new potential squeeze is a cutie.

I actually liked this episode. The dynamic between Abby and Jake now is oddly sweet. I like Retta being a real part of the group now (tho I can't remember her name on the show). I loathe Delia and her boss, tho. They are so gross and I am afraid the show runners want us to find them sexy and compelling. Nope.

Manny was a cute little butterball when he was young but was never a very good actor, but I always thought Luke WAS, when he was little. I didn't think he merely relied on cute, tho he definitely was. Can you become UNtalented, if you once were, or am I just overestimating how good he was before? His little kid line reads used to strike me as pretty inspired sometimes.

Kevin did say she was sexy tho, in the hot 'librarian' kind of way, and Randall also called her beautiful. Sloane herself did seem shocked that a hot actor guy like Kevin would find her attractive tho, so, yeah, point taken.

I think we're supposed to realize that nobody has ever talked to Kate this way before, nobody's ever told her she was beautiful or wanted to constantly have sex with her, so she finds it flattering. If she'd ever had more experience, she might find it as off putting as we do, or not. Some women would just be flattered anyway. I do think she's very pretty, and I don't have a problem with the idea that someone would find her attractive. There's all kinds of tastes, fortunately for those of us who aren't perfect. I don't find Toby remotely attractive, tho that has more to do with that dumb patch of hair atop his head, but I DID find the actor kind of attractive--in a big, quiet, compassionate, tough guy kind of way--on "Stranger Things". It has a lot more to do with personality, for me, than looks, a lot of the time. I can objectify a beautiful man as much as anyone, but personality and wit and humor and intelligence goes further, for me. Like: I find John Goodman attractive, even sexy, esp. when he was younger n bigger than he is now. Swagger and confidence and smarts to burn. I have never had an overweight boyfriend, tho I'm a big girl, tho. Maybe I'm shallow.

I am an Elizabeth Perkins fan, and I've seen her as recently as a couple, three years ago in the short lived (but missed, by me, anyway) sitcom 'how to live with your parents for the rest of your life', where I thought she looked great. But I didn't even realize Rebecca's mom was her. That's just weird.

ha! thanks! so: I really like Regan and think Megan Fox is hilarious. I like her too cool dynamic and delivery. I'm uncertain I buy her and Nick as a real couple, but I get why they'd find each other attractive. Nick is a weirdo, but he's a cute weirdo. I also find Robby amusing, or maybe I just like the actor. I don't want him n Jess together in the long run, but for now, I'm good with them. I like the weird, unexpected, unbelievable layers we keep finding about him: He did hot yoga with Darlene Love. He saved Elon Musk's life. He has a gold record for playing with Santana. There's a PBS documentary about him. Oh, and I still find this show very funny.