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I don't recall that, but I could be wrong. I THOUGHT we definitely knew she wasn't one of the 'fat girl' friends, (a Sofi, as opposed to Sophie) but maybe that was all just speculation. About Sophie and Kevin moving on...it just seemed fast, to me, to be already in such serious relationships. After my divorce, I dated a hell of a lot, but no way did I want to get serious for YEARS. But everyone's different, and Sophie and Kevin had already gotten been thru all this before, so maybe once this breakup stuck, they'd already both done their time healing from it all, and were ready for something serious.

I don't think Kevin necessarily really wants a child. I think he just assumed, without giving it much thought, that he'd have kids, cuz 'that's what people do'. Not to say he doesn't want them but I don't think it's some burning desire/need for him, at this point, anyway. Who knows? My guy and I never say really mean things to each other (I definitely did, in my first marriage, and hey, no shock we're divorced), not even at our worst, not even in the heat of anger (we don't really fight), but still, both of us were like: "dude, just tell her you were mad and frustrated and left a mean message." And he did, and Beth is pissed and I get it, but the message itself, of course, isn't really the problem, hateful as it was. I thought about Kate and the baby with Sophie too...I hate that they just dropped that Kate and Sophie were good friends as kids. People lose touch, grow apart, etc but I'd still want to know the big news about someone who used to be a good friend, let alone one that was almost my family. I thought about When Harry Met Sally too, and the 'cold hard Mexican tile' line, when Zoe was talking about good reasons to not have kids.

I've known since I was 8 I didn't want kids. Everyone told me I'd change my mind. All these decades later: nope. Never for a second wanted them. Never wavered, never doubted, never wondered. I wasn't abused, I'm not super ambitious with a 70 hour work week, I don't have any specific, dramatic reason for not being interested in having children. Just don't. So yeah, Kevin just assuming everyone wants kids cuz it's what people do, and that Zoe not wanting them probably has something to do with her abuse is a little annoying to me too. Some of the things I've heard and the looks I've gotten when I say I never wanted kids are ridiculous. It'd be nice for it to be seen, on TV and in real life, as simply one more valid choice in life. I love Sophie. Minority, I know, but there are obviously a few of us here. I'm glad she's moved on (but what's the time frame on them and their breakup? A year or something? They both moved on to really serious relationships really quickly) but I still had hope for them. Of course, who knows, still? I also agree that Zoe loves Kevin but was kind of hoping this was a way out of it all. Not that she DOES want kids--I fully believe she doesn't--but that it would be a deal breaker for Kevin and then she wouldn't be the chick who broke up with the addict. Beth and Randall are both on my last nerves.

Sam just wasn't prepared to have or indulge the 'might be dropping out of school' convo right then, was my impression. I loved glenn thurman, who i mostly know from A Different World, and one of the most poignant episodes of Scrubs (and who I just discovered was once married to Aretha Franklin!) Not shallow to say Sharon Stone looks great, she does. I didn't understand the conversation with Kevin Pollak though when he was talking about great she looked and then he asked: what's the equation--- half your age plus seven? I get the reference, but it seemed like such a non sequitur when he was talking about Stone, who is exactly the same age as Pollack. Did i miss, or misinterpret, something there? I also loved the whole weed conversation. "That's not old people weed." That was hilarious. Is Sam going to suddenly dip into the lady pond with that agent, aka The Flipper? It's a trend on TV shows lately. (Or maybe in real life, i don't know. I'm hopelessly straight). Abbi on Broad City, Lindsay on You're the Worst were both sort of suddenly bisexual; is that where they're going here? I absolutely adore Diedrich Baker on this show.

It's funny, but when I see Chris Sullivan in other roles, I think he comes off kind of cool. Cute even. Even in his red carpet appearances, where his real life sartorial style is funky and flashy and weird, I think he seems cool. But Toby..is not. I despised Toby at first, but seriously, compared to most of the Pearsons at their worst, he's more relatable and bearable.

Yeah, I guess I didn't think he'd been gone long enuf, but the timeframe was relative here, and there could be a drugstore right next door or something. Miguel said they were thinking of relocating to California. I kind of agree that they should ALL move there, or back to PA, or whatever, so the constant winging back and forth across country didn't seem so unlikely as it sometimes does.

Everyone's pretty much already said everything I was saying while watching the show, but ugh, the Pearsons are INSUFFERABLE. Pissed at the happy grandma eating pretzels, because this is THEIR waiting room, no interlopers allowed. Including, even, Kate's only apparent friend, who was nice enuf to get up in the middle of the night and bring donuts to these people. Sure, she's chipper and annoying, which usually drives me nuts, but compared to this glum, self absorbed bunch, I was rooting for her hard. And tho I get that Kevin's 'not his best self' right now, wtf prevented any of the rest of the family to tell her to ignore him and sit back down and stay cuz Kate would want her there? Assholes. And Miguel needs to tell them all to fuck off. Beth, snapping at him over his attempt to distract them all. Kevin and Randall constantly putting him down. Toby, who is supposed to be his ally, finding the energy to mock him even amidst all the drama and fatigue. Even Rebecca, who keeps musing about Jack right in front of him, all the damn time. I did find it mildly touching that Rebecca wouldn't go to the vending machine, cuz that's when Jack died, when she'd let down her guard for a minute...I get that. But 'THIS FAMILY STAYS!!!!'. ugh. You could feel the doctor trying hard not to roll his eyes. And yeah, why couldn't Rebecca at least be back in whatever room Toby was waiting in? Why on earth couldn't/didn't Toby come out at some point and update them, or at least call or text them? Stupid. And Rebecca wasn't really wrong to say that whatever other problems were going on to leave them out of the waiting room, but your son is an active drunk who just relapsed. That might worthy of a convo, too, even in the waiting room. And it's ridiculous that they all stayed. They had no idea how long any of this was going to take, so they were just prepared to all sit there and stew in their own unwashed bodies for days? Take shifts, people. I thought Rebecca was going to have a stroke or something. And yes, Randall and Beth are concerned about money and childcare so of course they BOTH got last minute cross country plane tickets and left the daughters with who knows who, cuz: Pearsons, I guess. And we all knew Kev had vodka in his water bottle (Tho I do wonder where he got it) and the baby would be named Jack. Whatever. Also, Beth and Zoe looked stunning and fashionable even hanging out for hours in a waiting room. I've spent hours in a hospital waiting room. I looked like complete and utter hell. I don't think it's possible for these women. Zoe needs to run screaming. Kevin's my fave, but life with an alcoholic isn't something I'd be able to handle, and also: do you REALLY want to have to deal with the rest of the Pearsons for the rest of your life? I like Sophie, so I didn't mind the preview with her. Are we going to find out she's had Kevin's baby or something?

My heart is fucking broken.

Especially since she wasn't even getting there til, like, midnight. Study, then go get faded. And also...she got zero sleep and zero study but she had time to fix herself up and do her hair and makeup and outfit before the exam...I know she's a fashion girl, but come ON. Are prof/student relationships completely verboten in college? I mean, maybe they always were and always should be, but it used to be not so frowned upon. The students in this case are legally adults. What if it's a student who ISN'T in one of the professor's classes? Is it always considered a no-no now? (yeah, I slept with a college professor or two, but I'm old. Times were different.)

Jimmy and Gretchen met at Vernon and Becca's wedding. Jimmy and Becca had dated and I think he'd actually proposed to her? Lindsay brought Gretchen to the wedding, and she and Jimmy hooked up.

That was the very least hot threesome in the history of threesomes. Though I'm oddly fond of Paul.

Ugh. and not only that, but it's her 'view at bath time', with a big fat red heart. Gross. Nothing says romance like reading the philosopher for self entitled right wing pricks by candlelight.

oh, I thought this was the season finale, for some reason. Yay for more episodes.

This episode was adorable. The Thelma and Louise road trip, the car, the headscarves (Tho i'm surprised nobody wanted to be Thelma, she's the one who got to bone the hot hitchhiker). I loved the whole country bar scene, and I loved Martin sweeping Lena off her feet. They have chemistry, and damn, when Oliver Hudson was line dancing all low key and smooth...he is so pretty. Loved his reaction to Sugar Beard: 'Is Maya crazy? This guy is a smokeshow!' And I loved that, in the end, despite what they saw in the hospital, they took one another's hands instead of pushing one another away. If the show doesn't come back, I'll be sad, but it was a mostly happy ending.

Is 20+ year old weed still any good at getting you high? Asking for a friend. Yeah, Beth had her own Jack Pearson, but she doesn't obsess, commemorate, monologue*, weep, and make everyone in the whole world know about the sad loss of her parent too young at every available opportunity. Ugh, she must resent them their obsessions sometimes. "I lost my dad when I was a kid too!!!" While Beth and Zoe were getting high in the laundry room, I couldn't stop staring at both of them. They're so stunning. Young Beth was a brilliant casting choice. And what a waste to have pretty pretty Goran Visnjic and not have him be a former love interest or something!! Have we seen that Beth still dances, ever, just in an exercise class or anything? Cuz I'm sure you still have sense memory and muscle memory, etc, but would the actual movements come so easily? I have no idea, maybe they do/would. And she's just gonna demi-plie right in and get a teaching job? Okay. Phylicia Rashad is awesome. *Tho she and her mom both also do have the monologue gene.

Well, the dad is dead now, but yeah...these parents should have gone to jail for child endangerment and neglect, and I have no idea how the mother lives with herself. That Jan keeps defending them so strongly leads me to believe she's as much in denial as they were, and needs tons more therapy than she might have already had. It was a 'different time', but for cripes sake...we knew what child molesters were. I'm roughly the same age as Jan and also grew up in a repressive, weird religion, but no way in hell would my parents have ever thought any of this was okay. To let this grown ass man work out his 'therapy' with their pre-teen daughter? There is no amount of denial, cultural or religious or time-period differences that explain that in any freaking way. This truly is one of the most WTF stories I've ever come across.

I feel like MOST characters in rom coms suck. Julia Roberts in Notting Hill is a cheating, dishonest, self involved prima donna and I only wanted Hugh Grant to run very far away. Andie McDowell in Four Weddings and a Funeral: also a cheating, self indulgent drama queen, and Hugh's adorable character isn't much better for ditching his almost-wife at the altar (tho better than marrying and then cheating on her). Kate Beckinsale and John Cusack in Serendipity: cheaters we're supposed to cheer on as they are engaged to others but keep looking for one another. Meg Ryan in Sleepless in Seattle: engaged to/living with Bill Pullman, lies to him and obsesses about some guy she hears on the radio and travels across the country to find him. The Notebook: Ryan Gosling is nuts and Rachel McAdams justifies cheating on cute James Marsden cuz truelove, you know. Julia Roberts again My Best Friend's Wedding: she's an evil selfish bitch, and again in Runaway Bride, where she agrees to marry nearly countless (stupid) men and leave them all at the altar, then at her own wedding rehearsal, macks on some other guy right in front of her latest betrothed, THEN decides to marry the stupid new guy on the same day, same venue, same dress as the guy she's just cheated on, and then leaves new guy at the altar (who saw that coming, amirte?), and all because she's just...insecure or something stupid. And yeah, everyone in Family Stone. I hate this genre.

but she's cute. :)

gross.

I LOVED the twins 'ghost' vintage makeovers at first, they looked amazing. I didn't truly get the final photo with Jazz or how it was sexy, on point, fire, Zoe's brand or...anything. Luca is a lying hypocrite of a vegan. Figures. Aaron really needs to lose the rattail. Who was the pic/screensaver on Ana's phone? Plz tell me it wasn't Marco Rubio.

The Lion also mentioned 'bluegrass'....Rumer was born in Paducah, Kentucky while Bruce Willis was filming "In Country".

Delilah is such a special cupcake that it never even occurs to her that the woman whose husband she was having an affair with might deliberately give her bad legal advice, or try to sabotage her, or anything. I mean, I sure would be tempted, if I were Katherine, to torpedo the bitch, but Katherine is too good and decent a person to do that, obviously. But it never even crosses D's mind that anyone wouldn't want to help her, not even the betrayed wife. I didn't really understand the shrieking reactions of Delilah and Gary with Ashley either. She SHOULD have given Delilah the papers before, but she was trying to help and she had actual answers and explanations to some questions that they didn't even really take the time to bother to ask before they threw her out. Gary's yelling at her was over the top and made me want to punch him a little. It does seem like they wasted Constance Zimmer. I wanted her to be Jon's ex wife or sister or something, tho maybe that's who/what Barbara Morgan is. I look forward to seeing Drea De Matteo, tho. Wonder if Walking Dead's Carl is her kid or something. When I was single and dating, on the rare occasion I offered to cook for someone (I hate cooking, mostly), I'd probably tell them dinner was at 8 too, especially if I'd had to work all day and then go home and get ready, etc. Sometimes the honey and I eat at 8, due mostly to laziness, lack of planning, the aforementioned dislike of cooking, and cuz Jeopardy is on at 730 and I have priorities. I don't know all the politics of a legal office, so I didn't quite get why Katherine was so upset at her handsome co worker for the he told he'd made partner either. It's a shame that the most interesting, compelling character on this show, and the finest actor, is dead. I dug Maggie's pink wig.

Agree with all of this, and I looked it up and yes, internships are a good step, and generally an associate's degree in fashion merchandising or design, and/or there's some kind of certification, too, I think.

Zoe being a stylist makes sense...how does one train/study/become that? what kinds of courses help with that sort of career? Legit curious. Ana and Nomi's stoned banana bread eating was gold. Charlie just doesn't work for me on this show. He's funny, but it's such a bizarro premise that he's dean, while also still working apparently full time with Dre...It just takes me outa the show when he's on.

He has strange eyes, sort of black and sharklike...but it's not offputting. he's super cute.