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Here's my take. I think the powers that be intended this season to be the season Vicki is integrated back into the show. What they must have not known is Vicki is just impossible. She can't help herself, and she can't be helped. Lydia - Was brought back with a clear role of being the "peacemaker". Early in the season, she was very confident in the role. She basically said, "Look the producers need us to get Tam and Vicki back on speaking terms. What's it gonna take to do that?" When it didn't work, Lydia found herself mid-season without a role or storyline. The easiest fix, of course, is to create drama, and Shannon is an easy target because she's so reactionary. Lydia just isn't an interesting enough person to carry her own storyline so arguing with Shannon will have to do. Peggy - clearly was brought on to be Vicki's friend, but again it didn't work (because Vicki cannot be helped). Obviously it wouldn't be easy to find someone willing to take on the "friend of Vicki" role, so the producers didn't have much to pick from. And Peggy really is the bottom of the barrel (I can say that because she wouldn't understand the phrase -lol). I don't doubt that the hubby thinks the RH show will help his business and image, but honestly his wife has ZERO social skills. She is so over her head. Someone must have told her about the creating drama so secure your spot - but she is just so very bad at it. Her attempts to create drama include stomping into someone house, with the brightest lipstick to emphasize the scowl (she practiced in the mirror) and insult the first person she meets. She just looks and acts ridiculous. She doesn't have any social skills. She can't read social cues. She's just so clueless. And when she said she's never been anywhere with other women, all I could think is, "yeah, that's obvious". She really needs to get out house more. Peggy is just a really bad casting call. I guess when you are so completely over your head, acting like you're really dumb (and don't understand English) is one way to cope. Not a good way to cope, but still a way. Vicki- the writing is on the wall. They should have never tried to keep her on the show. I mean she LIED about cancer. Come on, that's really, really unacceptable. Had the powers that be been successful in integrating her back into the group, I would not be still watching this show. Watching her on WWHL was so pathetic. She is unable to accept consequences to her actions, because she unwilling to admit her actions. She is so incredibly immature (which has always been why she was entertaining). She thinks if she closes her eyes the world goes away. She was absolutely unable to communicate in any way on the show. At some point Andy said something like, "Are you mad at me about something?" Yeah the writings on the wall. She's a gonner (unless something happens in Iceland to change something).

That WWHL episode was so weird. Vicki had NO INTEREST in talking about anything to do with the show. She just refuses to admit any of her actions, and acts sosososo put out that anyone would expect her to be accountable. She was just so over it. Andy actually said (something like) "Are you upset at me about something?" I can't see how she can survive another season as a full housewife.

I have two thoughts about Vicki not knowing "her knight" was carrying: 1) it's a sham of a relationship . . . just something for the show 2) she's continues to think acting like a coy, overwhelmed little girl is appealing. "I'm such a silly, naive little thing . . . gosh, it's so scary that my big man has been carrying a GUN" expressed with the usual wide eyed amazement she has been practicing her whole life. Ug, Just ug. If it was a real conversation, any grown up woman would have said, "Wait . . . wha???? How come I didn't know this? We're going to have to talk about this later. If you are carrying a gun in my home, and around my grandchildren, I'm going to need to know a lot more detail." And Peggy . . . well . . . more of the same. When her hubby said the "does a bear poop in the woods?", Peggy's initial reaction seemed normal then there was a quick shift. Like suddenly she remembered, "oh yeah, that's my thing . . . not understanding simple English. It makes me sound cute and naïve". Everything about these women is so fake; their faces, their boobs, their "personalities". And now to fully discredit myself; I don't think Briana's dress was that bad. Among size 2 plastic women, stuffing their fake boobs into pageant dresses, Bri just looked rather normal to me. She looked like a real mom who pulled out a dress from her closet that she hadn't worn in a few years (or even months), and said, "Damn, I don't remember this dress being so short", and her hubby replied, "Naw babe, you look great. Let's roll." I thought she looked fine. And I loved that her reaction to seeing her uncles was so sincere and normal.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but . . . I don't understand why a show where someone like Andy has so much influence would push this storyline . . . Eddie may or may not have kissed another man. Eh . . . who cares? Twenty years ago the storyline may have been controversial. But now? And how in the world could "Eddie kissed a man" in anyway overshadow "Vicky lied about Crooks having cancer"?

My other quick thoughts are: Meghan - stirring is way of just earning her paycheck. She did it during the cancer fraud season, and it secured her a job. She's doing what she knows will get her the gig next year (if there is another year of RHOC). I don't have a problem with that. Peggy - Ug. Just Ug. She is so . . . uhm . . . uhm . . . I got nothing . . . she is nothing. The price tag obsession screams that they don't actually have any money. Her boring, boring statements; "education is important", "shopping is fun", "cars are expensive". . . just Ug. And when she isn't saying something banal, she's just stares into space. Who the hell thought she'd be entertaining????. Kelly - girl there is something really wrong with you. Borderline Personality Disorder perhaps?????? Don't know what it is, but honey . . . get some help.

When Meghan met Vicki for lunch, right after Vicki claimed she was a victim, didn't she actually say something like, "These women claimed I conned them. I didn't con them. To con someone you have to profit from your lies"? Uhm . . . that's not the definition of "con". And . . . uhm . . . what a VERY, VERY weird thing to say. She didn't say "I didn't lie" . . . she just said, in the most exasperated voice, something like, "I didn't PROFIT from lying, so I couldn't have conned anyone". I think there is some weird logic to Vicki's strange defense. Well twisted Vicki logic anyway because, I think she makes it clear, that she INTENDED to profit. Early in the season of the cancer CON storyline, Vicki and Crooks were trying to launch some sort of relationship with a health guru and health drink - that I assumed they would be claiming cured cancer or something like that . . . and then after the CON was revealed she teamed up with a Stop Cancer charity as a means to sell life insurance. In the middle of the storyline, she also begged for casseroles. It seems clear that her intent was to profit from the storyline. And I think that's why she says weird things like, "At the very least, I thought I'd score a few casseroles". After her intended payoff didn't materialize, she's simply exasperated by why she would be criticized. She just views it as a plan that didn't work; no harm, no foul. . . no big deal. She has absolutely no moral compass. She doesn't even slightly get why the whole actually LYING ABOUT HAVING CANCER is a problem. It's just nothing to her. Had her lies paid off as she hoped, she would understand that the other girls would be jealous of her business savvy. But it didn't pay off, so she doesn't know what they are upset about. And they keep harping at her . . .so SHE'S REALLY THE VICTIM of their strange, unwarranted harping. She's a damaged person. And, BTW there is absolutely NO WAY her son has been looking for "more family time" given her complete lack of appropriate parental boundaries. I'm sure the boat purchase is just an attempt to manipulate all of them . . . her son, her enmeshed dd and that new, creepy bf.

I'm sorry . . . but I just CAN'T with Peggy. I disagree with those who say "she's smarter than she acts", 'cause if your MO in life is to act stupid to be manipulative or something, then you just are stupid. And anyone who gets their jollies by making other people uncomfortable (especially those who are obligated to serve you so they don't have the option to punch in you in the throat) is a horrible, horrible person. Peggy and her husband are horrible, horrible people (and I suspect they are as stupid as they act). Ug. And, I'm guessing Peggy was hired because she agreed to sign up to support Vicki. They must have been looking for someone with cancer in their storyline to play this role. I suspect they couldn't find anyone with actual cancer to play the role, so they got someone who had a brush with it - as what is I think what Peggy has been saying. (Please know I'm not trying to make any judgements about the situation people like Peggy are in - I have some personal experience with it myself . . . so .. . .) So the resting b@tch face is really the only thing she can do. I mean what could anyone say to actually defend Vicki. I still hate Peggy because she's a horrible person. I don't hate her for the storyline she was handed.

So Meghan of the OC really threw the "Lu and Tom Martial Bliss" storyline under the bus last night on WWHL. When Andy asked if she was surprised about the demise of the marriage, she just shrugged and said something like, "Well it was just a storyline for last year" (like it wasn't a real thing). I think she broke the 4th wall. Andy seemed miffed and ignored what she said at first, but then doubled back a bit to address it ('cause it was an awkward thing to ignore, I suppose). And Meghan got kinda small, and just sort of whispered "wasn't it?" That's my likely very skewed interpretation of the exchange, anyway.

hahahahaha . . . I had a LuAnn moment this morning . . .. hahahahaha The neighbors chickens are laying good, and I caught a nice size coho salmon (Lake Michigan) over the weekend that I smoked yesterday. So when I made breakfast this morning I seasoned it with fresh rosemary from the herb garden out the back door. And called to hubby . . . "Breakfast time! Eggs a la Francaise avec poisson!!!" . . . it just rolled off my tongue so easily - lol. Hubby came in the kitchen and looked at me blankly. "Ah, just kidding," I said, "I made scrambled eggs but added some of that smoked fish." Dear.LORD I've come to hate food snobs . . . especially ones who really know nothing about good food! Beating an egg doesn't make is FRENCH! LOL.

The thing about Jim traveling for work . . . I think he actually just works in St. Louis, like he's based there (and travels with the Cardinal during the season). Megan is from St. Louis. They met each other there. It's clear that they live in St. Louis when not filming the HWs. His kids live there, right? Megan said at the luncheon to Shannon and Tam that she hadn't been in the OC for four months, and the baby was what? . . .three months old???... so she had the baby in St. Louis too, right? So in reality Megan travels for work (not the other way around). She travels to the O.C. to film for her job on the HWs.

Well...i don't think her actual eggs were installed- lol. I think four birds were etched in the door to represent the children...and they etched an image of a nest with two eggs to represent the embryos they have on ice. It's still really weird. ;)

Here's my take on the marriage: Tom (in the throws of passion, hours after meeting); "oooohhhhh baby, you're the type of dame a guy like me could marry" Lu: "oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Tommy, we're getting marrrriiiiiieeeeeddddddd" Lu (to anyone in earshot): "He wants to maarrrrrryyyyyy MEEEEEEEEE . . . We're getting MARRRIIIIIEEDDDDDDDDDD" Tom thinks to himself; "WTF?" Months go by . . . Tom remains the same dude he's always been . . .He cheats . . . Lu wails and flails about dramatically ("How can you treat your SOULMATE this way????") . . . Tom thinks to himself "WTF?" . . . Tom remains the same . . . He cheats . . . Lu wails. . . Tom begins to get irritated at her drama . . . Lu begins to understand that the cheating is always going to happen . . . but she wails and implores he be more discreet . . . Tom thinks to himself "WTF?" . . . Tom remains the same . . he cheats . . . Lu wails . . . Lu sees the clips of the upcoming episode where he is flirting on camera and "de-micing" himself . . . Lu wails . . Tom thinks to himself "WTF?" . . . Then Tom says "I can't take all this drama for no reason . . . I'M OUT" . . . Lu wails, "NO I'M OUT FIRST! I'm going to stear this storyline" Tom thinks to himself "WTF?"

On WWHL Beth explained why she was so animated about the others being late for dinner. When Sonja was drunk making out with Beth, someone (Carole, I think she said) tried to come to her rescue by saying everyone was getting ready to sit down to dinner. Beth didn't understand it was just an excuse to rescue her, and took it at face value. So she hurried to get ready for dinner, then found herself sitting alone at the table. No one else knew this had happened either. So Beth was irritated...and everyone was irritated at her irritation. It was just a perfect storm for conflict (plus the drinking without eating)

No doubt in my mind...it was his decision...

Again, I just CANT with Luann. I'm sorry but she was UNBEARABLE as a countess (remember, when she couldn't be expected to talk to the help/drivers?) . . . then divorce, and somewhat cool girl . . . then a MRS and AGAIN UNBEARABLE ('He wants to marry MEEEEEEEEEEE, not YOUUUUUUUU", "I expect special treatment 'cause I'm MARRRRRIEEEEEDDDDDD and YOU'RE NOTTTTTTTT"). . . ugh . . just ug . . . sosoosososo over her. Insult me once, shame on you . . . insult me twice shame on me. Lu - your two strikes are enough for me to call you OUT! She is not and will never be a "girls girl". She will be back on the prowl soon enough . . 'cause with Lu it's only about the company she keeps with men. (And let me add - I actually like Lu when she's single. Her fall in the bushes was funny and her ability to laugh at herself refreshing. Still for all her good qualities, I am still OVER her.)

Oh pleasssseeeee . . . I have ZERO empathy for this obvious trainwreck of a marriage ending. Tom didn't really want to get married. No doubt he pulled the plug (and rug out from under LuAnn's feet). She pushed, pushed, pushed for something that could never really happen. And pushed, pushed, pushed for how making it happen made her better than the other women. How can you feel badly for someone who did that? Of course I'm going to judge her harshly for this.

This. Exactly. I think Shannon is a very empathetic person (she constantly says she is, and I believe her), but she just doesn't get that her overwhelming need to get empathy back from others is her undoing. She's constantly (almost pathologically) exposing her vulnerabilities and seeking empathy, and CONSTANTLY surprised that others reactions aren't what she's expecting or wanting. An emotionally mature person would recognize the pattern and adjust their expectations and behaviors to protect themselves. Her behavior is pretty immature. She wants empathy, emPATHY, EMPATHY...and she'll stomp, hold her breath or rage til she gets it (and she never will, so she has to stomp away). She really needs to learn to self-sooth or employ a real therapist. AND she needs to learn to fold her hands in her lap and say, "Oh, I don't really have much to say on the topic of Vicki that would be interesting to you. Let's talk instead about what going on in your life."

As far as Cody and Danielle, I agree the entire relationship (if you can call it that) is producer driven. There is just nothing there. It's already died a million deaths. Cody is too immature to have a real relationship. And Danielle seems to be trying her best to go along with production. I think when she looks back at this whole experiment, shed just gonna cringe with embarrassment. This whole production thing is bringing out the worse in both if them.

As much as Ant and Ashely seem to get along...there is a big red flag I can see in their relationship...and that is Anthony's continuous concern that he is compromising too much. That's just a classic comitment phobic language. To have a successful marriage, you have to be willing to give 100%, and Anthony is already overly concerned he's giving more than 50%. His attitude will become more of a problem if they move forward...'cause it sure isn't going to get better for him once they start having children. I have seen this sooooo many times IRL. Relationships and marriages fail over it. I've also seen (many times), men like Anthony who upon meeting the right person jump 100% In without hesitation. I just think these two should slow down and resolve this. My concern is Ashley is so concentrated on finding a father for her future children that she's missing the red flag.

Cody- STFU!!! Oh.dear.Lord.shut.the.f.up!!! Just SHUT UP! Why would ANY woman marry such a middle school man-child??

I hate to beat this subject to death . . . but, ugh . . . Lu and her perfect wedding and perfect love . . . just . . . ugh. Obviously, I don't know her, but from the years of watching her on RHONY I thought she seemed pretty together, somewhat sophisticated, obviously fame hungry (aren't they all, of course?), and clearly someone who felt a need to project a certain image. In real life, with her real friends, she HAS to be more down to earth, right? I mean, it would be exhausting to keep this image of a real person going. But this engagement, relationship, wedding stuff . . . it just isn't believable. It's downright embarrassing. Starting with her "he wants to marry MEEEEEeeeeeeEEEE" giggle, giggle stuff at the beginning of last season. What grown woman talks like that?? It was so immature. Weird. Not believable. It just feels like she grabbed unto a storyline and try to ride it in a way she thought Bravo would appreciate (ie; in a Betthany Getting Married" way). And so, there is an engagement party on a YATCH, full white gown(s) including a longgggg veil, 50+ year old brides"maids" and a grown @ss daughter flower girl. Oh.Dear.Lord. Apparently chasing fame will make you do ridiculous things, huh? It all seems at odds with her usual more sophisticated style. When Bravo didn't bite on a wedding special, she just rode that ridiculous storyline it to the end anyway. She could have paused. She could have reconsidered and restructured, but for whatever reason she just marched straight ahead. And she's treating the relationship the same way she is treating the wedding. Everything is sosoosososooso wonderfulllllllllllll. We are sosososoos HAPPPYYYYYY. Honestly I would have much more respect for her if she said something remotely believable. In every scene she upset that the girls aren't giddy and gushing about her upcoming wedding. Dear.Lord. What does she expect people to say? How can you converse about unicorns and rainbows in any believable way? I wish she would pause, reconsider and restructure her storyline. She could easily say, "Tom and I are approaching this marriage with open eyes. Obviously we both have baggage and issues, but we are committed to working through these things to make a lasting union. I'd ask you to please hold your opinions. Give me some credit. I'm not a silly, immature girl. I know what I'm doing. Please respect my decisions and try your best to support me."

Kim is a mean spirited, unstable sort whether sober or drunk. I don't get the appeal AT ALL. And I agree Kyle falls so easily into dysfunctional family enmeshment when Kim is part of the storyline, that it's difficult to watch. There is just no reason to continue to torture Kim or the viewership any longer. At best it's boring TV. At worse it's exploiting people with real mental health issues.

yeah . . . but . . . if Erika's flashed someone unintentionally then the most she would owe anyone is "oops, that was a mistake". This would be in keeping with her personality and lifestyle. And I think she offered this. It was an embarrassing (not terribly so, but somewhat) unintentional slip. What Dorit is demanding is a full out apology not only for what happened . . . but for her intentionally making it happen. When Ericka's doesn't accept that she intentionally did anything wrong, Dorit and her hubby start slut shaming her. I just don't understand that. I could understand if Erika flashed someone at a Duggar wedding or something. I mean it would be inappropriate to show up in an outfit without knickers at something like that. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Duggar clan slut shame her. But this is BH. This was with Dorit. These are like minded, like dressed people. Why did this seem sosososo offensive to Dorit?

Regarding pantygate . . . I think everyone wants resolution, but both sides see this "resolution" differently. Dorit, for whatever reason was insulted by Erika flashing her husband. Perhaps she saw her doing it intentionally. Maybe she was just looking for a good story line to jump on. Idk. But she was (and is) clearly looking for an apology. She "gifted" her underwear to keep the story going, and to publically shame Ericka (and vaguely wrapping the shame in humor) . It was an attempt to get the other girls to gang up on Erika and demand some sort of apology. Kyle said outright, she didn't think the tactic would work the way Dorit was sure it would. I don't fault Kyle for saying she liked to be there when the exchange happens. I think it was Kyle's way of re-enforcing what she already said. It was using a verbal social cue to say, "No really, this is NOT going to go well." So when Dorit says, she's over pantygate . . . she means, "I accept Ericka's apology and can now move on". But the problem is . . . Ericka isn't apologizing. Ericka doesn't think she did anything wrong. She see Dorit's insistence that she apologize as Dorit's insistence that she intentionally flashed her husband. I think Ericka would agree to disagree if that was an option. So when Ericka says she's over pantygate . . . she mean she wants pantygate to be over. She doesn't want to talk about her private parts being on public display anymore. She doesn't want to discuss whether it was done intentionally or not. She just wants it to go away. So now . . . when Ericka says she over it, Dorit hears an acknowledgment of wrong doing and an apology. When Dorit says she's over it, Ericka hears that it will never be brought up again. But they are hearing things that aren't being said. I think it's this confusion that is keeping things going. There is too much misunderstanding to have true resolution.

I think I understand Erika. We got a glimpse into her background and things have been tough for her. She really seems like someone doing their best to deal with real self-esteem issues. And that stuff is hard. I mean the real self-esteem issues that come from having to learn to comfort yourself as your forming your personality because your caregivers aren't. It changes who you are deep inside. It can make you feel unworthy at your very base. It can cause you to do things like create an alternate personality who is strong and confident and can't be hurt (Erika Jane). And you go through life trying to keep your deeply rooted vulnerabilities protected (because you don't tools to fix things if they are exposed). Then you run into a bully like Dorit, who just won't stop picking on you. She has been relentless. She is constantly telling Erika and everyone else that she thinks Erika is cold; that she is the ONLY one she can't understand or get close to. She won't let up on how Erika is sosoososo different than everyone else she has ever met . . . blah, blah, blah. . . That's just mean, ya know? Sometimes you don't gel with someone. No big deal, right? But it is to Dorit, who senses vulnerability and just keeps picking at it like a mean girl. So Erika finally breaks down and says what anyone with low self esteem HATES to say, "You hurt my feelings". And . . big surprise . . . Dorit couldn't care less. The rest is just the fall out of that. Erika is exposed and vulnerable, and has no way to protect herself. What she ends up doing is trying to protect others; her husband, her son. It isn't about them, of course. But she doesn't feel like protecting herself is an option. The only safe thing to do what you don't feel worthy of protecting yourself is to protect the people around you that you know are worthy. This makes you sounds crazy, because it really is crazy. This episode broke my heart.