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The thing with Wesley was that at least he was there from the start. He just got a very unfavourable character type because the network/studio figured "we need a teenage insert for young people" and the writers made that into...well Wesley. Wheaton is a cool guy about it now but I reckon his teenage years were rough. Jack came on in Season 13 (12 doesn't really count as just the last scene) and proceeded to eat the entire show. God himself was twisted and villified so Jack could ascend to being the new and better God. I thought the actor was good on Arrow and fine in SPN (minus the last episode) but the character himself? Yikes.

I don't think Cas' speech refered to anyone but Cas himself. And the "pay-off" for that was when Chuck proclaimed Dean the ultimate killer and Dean said that wasn't him. But it had zero to do with influencing Jack. And Amara? She really helped out Dean when Chuck was breaking his bones. That bond was dropped like nothing so she, too, could be all for the glory of teenage Stu Jack.

Chuck was neither completely evil nor even really that hands on before Dabb retconned him like that. He was missing and not involved for thousands of years. Jack is not breaking any new ground her by claiming he will be hands off.

Hot take: Ellen and Jo had the best exit of any character on this entire show.

Promo pics Here So, it looks like at least a beginning scene still in the bunker? And possibly 3 costume changes in one episode? I mean I see two sets here and neither are the Pilot clothes. Since the barn fight scene has to be scene 28 that took 3 days to shoot, I'd guess mid-episode. My newest prediction: a time-skip at the end of the ep, indicating they hunted for a while and then died older. So noone dies "onscreen" in the hunt here.

While I never thought he mattered in the slightest and I loathed what he was reduced to in that episode, even I can see more of an argument for mattering than I do the brothers in this last episode. The only reason I like it better than the Seadon 5 Finale in that regard is because at least it was equal non-importance this time.

OG!Bobby drops in from heaven with the news that John Winchester's soul is missing and "hasn't been home in a few weeks". Sam looks flabbergasted and Dean gives the biggest WTF??? look in the history of the show. Then they go to a beach with a sign next to them that reads "No. Just no."

I think he is gonna be some sort of eulogy character. Which is obnoxious because AU!Bobby is just a Sam-worshipper, all "boss" and "big man". For such a role they should have chosen either Jody or Donna who have a relationship with both brothers. Or original Bobby, however you want to make this happen. I know likely more cameos would have been in it but they made a deal out of Donna disappearing as well for example. Also pandemic or not, they made Eileen a thing this Season and kept this romance plot going so it should be wrapped up somehow. Yet I don't think the actress is in it.

That wasn't teamwork in the slightest. Nougat was the sole important power player and only one who mattered. He upstaged the Winchesters in the final big battle of their own show. Which is good news if you watched this show for Nougatnatural, bad news for anyone who didn't. Also, the show only ever had two main characters never four. Side characters can get side heroics.

But that's not active to me. That's the same "role" a worm serves on a fishing hook. So much for being the heroes of the story. Meh.

The active role would be the one who took out Chuck, not the canon fodder before.

Ah, thanks. So last day of principal photography he meant the second to last day. Or the final day wasn't counted as such. Then maybe it's just AU!Bobby rhapsodizing Sam. And the final scene is just the brothers going into the light or something?

He posted it on either his twitter or his insta. I don`t remember which now.

This fan should get in trouble. Creation has a rule that M&G stuff is not to be shared openly.

Kevin Parks from the show confirmed that the final scene shot is actually the final scene of the episode. Now since it is apparently on a bridge, maybe they will go for the super-cheesy literal "crossing over" visual here. One goes on (likely Dean) and one stays behind (likely Sam) or both cross over. And Dean`s "character journey" will be that he can die now that Sam can have a nice life? Wouldn`t put it past Badd for whom Dean was literally in the way as he once paraphrased. Not to mention the speech that would go along with it, the kind of "my purpose in life has been fulfilled and you are the greatest thing ever" stuff.

He is quite popular on twitter and tumblr, I guess. Mainly I think with the younger crowd responding to his Cousin Oliver status.

That quote-of-the-day-thing Jason Fisher always did on hid twitter lists 3 scenes for the final shooting day and in that scene nr.60 last. It seems to be the actual last scene. But of course noone knows how the episode might be edited together. Doing another montage would feel kinda silly, though. Well, it's Badd.

I`m about 92 % sure now the Finale involves some death. Though it is still questionably if only one or both. Since Dabb was going on about the "character journeys" being finished, I could see him get one stupid lesson in where Dean now lets Sam go and the final scene is a goodbye where Sam moves onto heaven and Dean stays behind. The strange thing about that would be that they have set up a "happy life" possibility for Sam and not for Dean. So in that regard, it would make way more sense the other way around. Also Jensen mentioned that he disliked the finality aspect of it. If Dean stayed behind, he would have a less final ending than frankly Sam. Whereas if Dean died, it fits more with his words. Though if you do that, it is usually customary to show at least a montage or imply about the life of the surviving person. Which apparently not if the final scene is just the brothers. Both dying takes care of that problem. But then, what does the stupid title stand for? Who does the "carry on"? The people they leave behind? Maybe. If they go somewhere aka heaven it is "move on" or else they would have to carry on with a task there.

You know what could have been interesting? Considering this last episode felt it necessary to give pointless cameos to the two main archangelic characters of Season 5 and show that they never experienced any character growth ever in the end and thinking back on how archangels were first defined as "heaven`s fiercest warriors"? Once the Winchesters die and go to Heaven, make them its new archangelic defenders. In lol!canon world the logictics would hardly be a problem anyway.

You know I've thought the exact same thing. And enoigh peoole ate it and the Nougat up.

You know, I wouldn`t even mind if they died on a normal hunt (provided, they didn`t show themselves to be utterly incompetent, argh, that stupid "God gave them all the plot armour ever" should never have been retconned in) if for once in the blue moon, the show made it about saving individual people again. Have victims there that they can kinda bond with or at least get to safety. Even the last episode it just showed things in a detached "all the strangers are back, yay" way. One last time have the Winchesters save actual people. But the promo kinda only shows them in some barn, facing off against four creeps. Alone. Just bashing monsters means nothing. Then you can bring them into heaven and make it so that they are acknowledged there as something more than random souls. I mean, the show made them hang out with gods and archangels on the regular for years now. They are not Joe schmoe souls. I wonder now if it was planned to have a big welcoming commitee of characters for them in heaven but due to the pandemic, you couldn`t bring in several actors for just a five second scene. Not sure if I remember correctly but I think earlier either Badd or Singer said something about Bobby and Charlie coming back as both AU and original. The latter could have easily been in a heaven scene. Now it could just be Bobby. John and Mary could have been there. Jo and Ellen etc. It would be kinda weird, though. Because usually if main characters die, you would want to focus on their legacy in terms of the people they saved and not the "yay, we all died before you (and sometimes because of you), welcome" crowd. Would also fit with Calvert saying he has a short blip in the Finale without dialogue. Nougat-God could smile beatifically at them. For the longest time I wondered which other CW show`s Finale they would rip off. Vampire Diaries was a contender (still is) but now it looks more and more like Arrow.

I was already rolling on the floor when Michael described his tiny little tiff with Lucy as the kind of "battle he hadn`t been in centuries". The what now? Even the wire thing was more of a battle.

Hahaha. I had completely forgotten this. Well, in light of Cas' recent confession, she was lucky he didn't set her on fire the moment Dean showed up. Seriously, it is immensely funny to rewatch old bits and imagine Cas plotting to get rid of each and every character he might have considered "in the way".

I saw some spec that the final episode, they are already dead and their final "hunt" is figuring it out. Hopefully not. They should know when they are in Memorex heaven. That concept would have played many many years ago but not now.

The sole unresolved plot thread left... hahahaha.