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If memory serves, Joseph Smith was a Mason and many of the LDS ceremonies and rituals mirror Masonic traditions.

My opinion is that Meri wanted it documented because Kody is a gaslighting lying SOB.

Kody + Christine = Mykelti

Happy Yule/Holidays! Keeping it all deliciously simple this year. Wine, great focaccia and lasagna that I call "Quarantine Lasagna" that I invented during lock down when the stores were out of lasagna noodles for a long long time and I used Rigatoni instead. We loved it and make it often. I also didn't want to just make pasta because eggs were hard to get, limited to a dozen per order and $8 a dozen back then... Those were the days ehh ?

I believe the references from Janelle about moved goalposts was because Kody gave out the printed "rules" too close to the Thanksgiving holiday and there was no way anyone in Janelle and Christine's families could comply (Holidays 2021). They all knuckled down for Christmas and got the family together that year. Fast forward to the arguments of 2022 in this season... Kody then changed up the "they need to follow the rules" to force everyone to obey to "the boys need to apologize have a conversation" so that they could swear fealty to the all powerful God King Kody... while on bent knee apologizing groveling. Janelle accused Kody of first demanding the rules be followed then changing his tune and moving the goalpost to then demand the conversation forcing them to be separate...and then throwing a tantrum because they were all separate. Typing it all out makes it sound even more ludicrous than it was on the show.

lol Great minds right? I am just sittin' here with my cuppa tea thinking this exact thing. I think Kody's philosophy of a woman has to bad mouth her ex to get another man puts Robyn's bad mouthing her horrible abusive ex story to the possibly not true category. In the back of my memory I remember a person randomly posted on Reddit aways back and supposedly they were a close relative of Preston. They said that Robyn was horrid and her spending destroyed his business and credit. That she hid purchases in a shed and denied they were hers when found. Naturally you take these things with a grain of salt, and as usual there were many people asking questions and the person never posted any follow up. But again...Kody's hard vetting must not have included a credit report. More things that make you go hmmmm...

Yes, I remember watching that show and hearing this story. I grew up very poor and I know what it's like to walk into a grocery store with X dollars to spend and that has to stretch for X people for X days. But I was never so poor that rotting food had to be eaten or dumpster diving. I really can't imagine that. My Grandparents were Depression Era and they had stories to tell, but Grandma taught me all her make it happen and make due skills. And food insecurity sticks through your life like DNA glue. My family is "doing okay" in this economy but I still know exactly what is in my root cellar, my freezer and pantry and exactly how long it will last for us.

Things that make you go "hmmm..." Right around the time of this season Gwen was kinda harsh towards Kody in her Patreon. Then at one point people noted that she suddenly became more apologetic towards Kody. And shortly after she admitted that recently Kody gave her and Myketi a large sum of money. What makes you go Hmmm is that was the same time she became symptomatic towards Kody but also Kody would have seen this at the Tell All when Mykelti was "bad talking" him (in his mind). A stretch...but it makes you wonder.

Mykelti talked about their poverty in her patreon. She mentioned that they ate the leftover bread from the bakery that is on the ranch (never mentioned on the show, but talked about by the nephew in an interview). When Tony heard her say that he said "but you had hot dogs..." and Mykelti said "no...we WISHED we had hot dogs" Which is probably where the hot dog reference comes from. And yes... even having such food insecurity with a gaggle of children Kody and the wives went on to have even MORE children. I believe Kody said in the book that when he was panting after Robyn and she dangled the "fact" that so many men in their church were after her...he proposed to her even tho he was "at his lowest financial place". Choosing to bring in more children, more housing and food needs and $30,000 ish debt.

Warren Jeffs style ?

Well based on a few comments just above me I think I am not alone declaring that I would be THRILLED to jump over the Mykelti making twins story arc.

They will bond quite well over their blame/hatred for Christine. Ran out of milk ? Thanks Christine !! Kids late for school ? Thanks Christine !! Kody's curls go flat ? Thanks Christine !! Flat tire ? Thanks Christine !! Ari raids the mountain of cardboard boxes and makes a sled to ride down the stairs ? Thanks Christine !!

I think it's coming clear that Christine/Kody's relationship was 100% transactional and he used her as a brood mare and childcare. It went bad when Robyn came in because Christine saw that Kody was fully capable of being an attentive and loving husband/father...just not for her/her kids.

Tell alls are usually filmed around the time that the season premiers. So July/August ?

Yea. Janelle was kinda wishy washy. "Oh I remember all the good times" Janelle. When someone shows you who they are (and what they are capable of) BELIEVE them the first time.

I think this is the first time that Leon's name has been used on the show.

I'm picturing Elmers in a spray bottle

Kody is the little kid that puts a toy on a shelf and expects it to be there when he wants it...20 years later.

So Kody vetted...and vetted Robyn HARD! The petty teen in me is giggling a LOT

OH KODY!! N O W they are Y O U R children?

Discovery+ also plays it right at 10...$2 extra dollars a month gets you no commercials.

Christine is long over Kody. Kody can NOT get over Christine leaving.

I think there are strict rules from Kody that Robyn has to be coddled and if not...he will pull them both off camera. And flounce with his curlzz bouncin'

If I knew I was going to be sittin' there on a couch in front of a camera...I would wear a blazer that didn't bunch up and look like it was picked up off the floor and ill fitting. Robyn has horrid posture and looks extra frumpy.

So Kody is trying to make up rules for Christine to follow...when she is long gone ?