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I don't think you can dictate others' responses. Well. You can dictate, but unless you're the Mod and saying no one is allowed to voice dislike of the show, or have the ability to prevent people from watching the show and posting, how exactly will you impose your will on others?

I've always wondered if that was true or an urban legend.

dubbel zout, there's discussion about Che in the In the Media thread.

Sing it! That's exactly what I thought as the words came out of his mouth.

The Machine is the Redeemer. If this show goes on long enough, and he survives long enough, even Greer will have a redemption arc.

This might have been mentioned before, but I really like the theme for Haven. It's evocative and also reminds me of the theme from The 4400, which I also liked.

"French, Tish!" Gomez Addams was the best husband on TV, ever, imo.

I believe the "dumber than a" declension is: sack of hair, bag of hammers, box of rocks. But it could be regional.

I think you've got it, stealinghome, Reese has become the Everyman. I think the scene in DC where Finch, Reese, and Shaw are debating what they think the Machine wants them to do and whether they should, illustrates that. Reese is the middle path I was going to call him the straight man in my post because he serves an essential but under-appreciated role that lets the others shine. Summing up: His big character arc is done, until they find him another, but his purpose goes on.

Furryfury, I agree with a lot of your post, especially the part about the ridiculous kiss and appreciating the lack of romances on the series. But I wanted to quibble (just a little) with your comment about Reese. Although his time on screen (and Finch's, too) has been shortened for the sake of adding new characters, he's not irrelevant. He's become the glue that holds the group together, imo. He's the one Harold has the closest bond with and has known the longest, he's the one who press-ganged Fusco into what has become his redemption, and he and Shaw understand each other and he's the model she can use in her own redemption arc. Root is the only one he doesn't have a close relationship with, but that will come (preferably without stupid 'shipping). He's also the one who keeps Zoe helping them.

What I've learned about Naples from The Borgias and this show: Don't go there.

That was a very good episode.

Lots of forums have a Small Talk topic, but I didn't see one for POI. So here it is. I'll start: How are you all planning to celebrate the start of the new season? Theme party? Rewatch all previous episodes (I just finished the 3rd season DVDs)? Subscribe to a VPN? Learn Dutch? I expect I'll be having my traditional sangria and finding parallels to Lost in spite of myself.

Now that "Northern Lights" has been revealed by Vigilance/Decima, the Machine could try to recruit more actively. Until it was publicly known to exist, it was a secret people were killed for knowing. That's also part of why Harold only gets numbers; any more information would've alerted Control and co. to the backdoor. Exactly how the Machine would go about convincing useful people to do its bidding, other than saving them via Harold and friends to create goodwill like the Rooters, I'm not sure. But it's a super computer genius so it could probably think of something. When I start thinking about the Machine and Samaritan, I can't help thinking about Hitchhiker's Guide and Deep Thought. Which would make Samaritan the Earth?

It would be nice, but probably too much to hope for, that any nudity be equal opportunity and not just naked women.

Root said the Machine only gives numbers to Harold, rather than talking to him the way it does Root, because that's the relationship Harold wanted and the Machine respects his wishes.

Has anyone bought the DVDs for season 3? I got the Blu-ray/DVD set and have been having trouble with the BR ones freezing my player.

Jason Segel is really annoying.

I don't understand the question. What else could they possibly be implying. That line was not exactly cloaked in subtlety.

Doctor #6 immediately trying to kill Peri is what first endeared him to me. Go with your instincts, honey.

Probably muscle memory from Whose Line. Brandon Johnson can come back any time. The Sklars need to stay away for a while.

TWoP=Television Without Pity.

Future Stephen should've been Future Esteban, in my opinion.

No need to choose--be both!

Yes! I couldn't believe how much he looked like Ainley as the Master! I really enjoyed the episode and love grumpy Doctor and the OTT bickering with Robin didn't bother me. I was hoping for a reference to DaVinci's submarine when Robin and Clara went into the water--the actor playing Robin is Leonardo in Davinci's Demons.