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Too funny!! Thanks for the laugh.

Thank you. I completely agree with you. This binary/black/white viewpoint is quite interesting. Provoking somebody you have seen be unstable is on you. That is why we have the verb in the English language. Didn't C throw the wine glass? Candace isn't blameless as I have said before. All of this is ridiculous. In parting, I guess bulls are to blame when they charge after getting speared by a matador.

My opinion only, if you can stop drinking for a year at a time, you aren't an alcoholic. Alcoholics can't stop drinking and have babies with FAS. Acting out once you're drunk (ala Luanne) is a problem. Once again, my opinion only.

I liked the intro to the show. I can't quote it exactly but something along the lines of people think the OC weather is always the same but we've had many changes along with showing a montage of former housewives. I thought, yep, Vicki and Tamra WON'T be back. Good riddance. I may eat my words but I like the new HW. I think I would love her on the RHOBH. But seriously, how do these women marry billionaires? I'm too old (and happily married). Is it the Patti (Millionaire Matchmaker) "the penis does the picking" thing? As many of you have said, my antennae is up with Brown wind declaring herself an alcoholic. She has seven healthy children; alcoholics have children with fetal alcohol syndrome. She may be a problem drinker but I don't think she is an alcoholic. I'm not a medical professional so this is my 2 cents. We all know disaster is somehow looming but it was nice to see the women happy.

I'll give it a go. Never liked Vicki or Tamra so it will be interesting to see the direction the show takes. I really want it to get back to "nice." Yet I'm struggling to remember when that was. Season One?

OUT

I'm an editor so we will have to agree to disagree. I would edit this in my documents because it isn't true. This isn't "the moon is cheese." I've said my piece and I can let it go. You see the phrase differently? We're good.

Huh? If isn't meant literally, what does it mean? 18th to admit? Seriously, what does "first to admit" mean other than first to admit?

If you are speaking of First Ladies, I beg to differ. I probably remember this because I am sure I am much older than you are. Betty Ford founded an addiction center in San Diego (I believe). I was in high school/college and I think she admitted she was addicted to pain killers/alcohol. Barbra Bush (G.H.W.B's wife) was very self-deprecating. She spoke about her gray hair, gaining and losing weight, etc., and I found her very charming. Ms. Obama has much to be proud of, for sure. This is my favorite RH franchise and I keep watching fewer and fewer of them. Regardless, if Monique leaves, it wouldn't kill the franchise for me. If she stays, it wouldn't kill the franchise for me.

I'm white but I would never consider Monique losing it a reflection on black women. I think this is a case of (in all franchises), co-workers provoking their cast mates into the RED ZONE. I'm not a RH historian but in the Portia/Kenya altercation, I think Kenya was completely obnoxious with that bull horn (I thought it was a scepter or something) and Portia had finally had it. RED ZONE. As a viewer, I had had it as well. With Monique and Candace, they have a volatile history. Monique aggressively asks Candace to quit waiving her finger in Monique's face, it doesn't stop, Monique starts flipping her hair, this is turning red, somebody grabs at Monique, she reaches for Candace who then hits her face with a wine glass. Full on RED ZONE. Like road rage, (also RED ZONE) alcohol never helps. I'm going to say it, I think Candace shares some of the blame. She was warned to get her finger out of Monique's face and she didn't. My husband was a Safety Officer in the Air Force in one of his jobs. With aircraft accident investigations, there is a general chain of events leading to the accident (unless it is something like a wing falling off or something like that). In other words, there were a series of things/actions, if handled differently, would have prevented the accident. If either Monique or Candace had been in better spirits and lighter/less aggressive, this wouldn't have happened. I believe if one of the other women had jumped in earlier with something nice and light (Monique, I hate to interrupt but I'm not sure I thanked you enough for the weekend at your house, I would love to kayak again) (Candace, you don't have to be a mom to understand bone-tiredness; I'm sure you've felt that way with your extremely successful pageant career, the mimosas had me bonked out on the drive home--thank goodness for the drivers), it wouldn't have happened. Or even, ladies, while Ashley is away from the table, let's not squabble about sleeping, we need to come together to figure out how we can help Ashley. That is the most important thing right now. I don't know where the concept of grace has gone.

Seriously, thanks, I didn't know that. My BS is from ASU, the place Lori Loughlin and her hub paid money to make sure their kids didn't have to attend! I always wanted to go to Vassar. Ha! Like my folks could have afforded it. I need to look up U Penn. I never hear about it so thanks again.

I agree. Ms. B on WWHL was defending Dorinda because she thought Dorinda was upset Tinsley was "compartmentalizing her life." Hello, did we see the John break-up? Hey, B, did we see your kid? Have we seen Sonja visiting her daughter at her Ivy League school? Is it Penn State? Couldn't she visit at a Homecoming game? I know she didn't attend but I would think that weekend would accommodate parents. Dorinda is parsing her outrage. Is spending half a year in the Hamptons okay but not Palm Beach? Okay. Whatever. Their logic is exhausting.

This is genuinely funny! Well done! I mentioned china because I lived in England in the mid-80s as a new bride with a ridiculous exchange rate (as in--almost one-to-one for a time). I then inherited my great-grandmother's collection of depression glass. I asked our only child to keep the depression glass when we go. I love looking at my china but I don't expect her to care too much about it. Anyway, it is fun to hear about all of your fond china thoughts. Don't ask me about Polish pottery. Having laughed about all of Dorinda's over the top holiday decorations, I would love the nutcracker she procured for Ms. B. She should have kept it.

I love this! I think their load was not talking about what was actually happening in their lives.

This resonated with me. Yes, it can be a PITA but her house flooding is also an opportunity. We built a house last year and (hadn't planned to do it) we had many decisions to make. I assume some of her house was salvageable but even if not, she was able to pick out new cabinets, light fixtures, bathroom tiles, appliances, paint, finish, etc. It really isn't that hard to do. I was in the Air Force for a gazillion years so I had many opportunities to pare my belongings before each move. If Richard's stuff in the basement was ruined by water damage, just pitch it. Nobody wants it. IF her 18,000 holiday decorations (pick your holiday), were ruined, Hannah is eternally thankful. As an aside, I think millennials don't want or value the same stuff I do. I used to take a winter indoor cycling class and I would always set my bike up next to a young married couple. One day I mentioned something about china (I have a lot of it) and they both looked at me and said they weren't interested in ever owning china. So there you have it. BTW, I'm sure it was a shock to have her extensive water damage but you pick up the pieces of your life and move on. Aren't her mom and sister there? Why not have fun with them redoing your house? ETA: Her observation that John couldn't understand/didn't have the same level of responsibility, etc., ummm, I think he had a business to run (the kind with income and expenses, payroll and taxes) and I guess it wasn't going too well for him. She is a piece of work. Clip.

Was it this thread where Paris Hilton's documentary was discussed? I just watched it. In the end, I cried more than Kathy Hilton (who shed not a tear). Obviously this is Paris' point of view but wow. I thought it was worth seeing.

Dear Lisa, please move the show to LV if it comes back. Plan for a retrospective a year from now on "Where Are They Now?" It was a fun, young person's run but nobody cares about their maternity journeys. Let them pitch their own bullshit (and as a note) but nobody wants to see them decorate nurseries, meet with doulas, decide on pain-management options, etc. YOU had a great run--move this to LV. Start over.

Teddi was never very interesting to me so I don't think the show will be inherently better or worse with her absence. I also haven't been following her company/program but if she isn't doing some heavy lifting WRT lifestyle changes, the program is bound to fail her clients. Have any of her fellow cast mates weighed in on her departure? I hope she and Denise get replaced by the "ladies who lunch" crowd (I'm thinking Sutton's friends). I think the "Own it/Be honest" crowd are ruining the franchise. These women aren't very educated but it is time to bump it up a notch in that direction. Wonder if we'll see her at the next White/Black party.

I think it is because he doesn't want to get sideways with those promoting the needs of the mentally ill. It is clear to even the most casual of observer, Dorinda needs help. Unfortunately, it isn't clear to her. I don't know anything about the rehab discussion/ultimatum but I hope Dorinda gets help on her own away from the cameras. Leah's "I over-drank" explanations have me scratching my head; I've never heard that expression before. Curious. Regardless, Leah, you drank too much and have much to be sorry for on camera. This has nothing to do with Ramona citing an on-line article you wrote regarding your particular mental illness. I hope she doesn't return either.

Meh, Chicago has been playing for 25 or so years. Nobody needs to see Erika in a busted role. When I saw Chicago 25 years ago at the National Theater in DC, I couldn't tell you who played Roxie. Nobody cares about Chicago; it is a high school musical production at this point. I'm a broken record; Bravo is losing me. I know I am a party of one but I'm done with this shit show. I like Backyard Envy and Cash Cab. Other than that, I'm feeling done. No interest.

*Sniff sniff*. I smell another lawsuit happening......

I am very sorry for your loss. I bet her last thoughts were happy ones thinking about you and your Dad. I wish you peace.

I always appreciate your comments and this struck me. Lets hope Dorinda gets the help she needs.

Please tell me this is not true. Please. I'm not even sure if I want her to own it. Jesus. Tour de France is on. France is beautiful.

This literally made me snort wine through my nose. Luckily it was rose, a la LVP so it was nice and pink!