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That struck me is odd as well. I get he was aware of his future, but that reference was just an odd one to make. As someone else said, he probably should have made reference to one of the big name 80's or 90's QB. That was what I was coming in here to say. I graduated high school in 1996 (Wow I feel real old saying that) and nobody in my school would have been caught dead wearing that type of clothes. That was two years before the episode was set. If you did dress like that in 1996, people would make fun of you. What they were wearing was big when I was in middle school so we're talking 1990 to 1992 time frame. They were wearing some Kid N' Play House Party clothes. I wonder why they chose this whole Force battle to be the season's story. The reason why I ended up yanking The Flash off my pull list was because I hated this storyline in the comics. I hope they can do better than what they did in the comics, but I am not holding out hope. Also, I have been racking my brain but for the life of me I cannot remember when Chester first appeared. I know it was some time last season, but I completely blocked out his introduction. Hell I did not even recall his name until last night. Though I do have to say I liked the storyline with him and his dad. It made him a more interesting character. As someone else said, he is far to similar to Cisco personality wise.

I like Leroy but for some reason I just don't care if he wins this season. Mainly because I feel like it is a foregone conclusion that he will win. It is like watching Cody win Big Brother All-Stars last season or Boston Rob win his season of Survivor. There is just nothing to him winning because it seems like most are willing to give him the win. If Leroy wins cool, but I really don't care if he does or does not. Honestly out of the guys left I would rather see Corey or Kyle win. As for the women, I honestly don't care who wins. I mean I would rather Kam or Kaycee not win but if they do it would not upset me. I would just be like, "Oh look they won."

I wish I could give this comment like four thousand thumbs up because no truer words have been spoken. I know this passed a while ago, but I always laughed when MTV would show commercials for that Korean boy band group BTS having an episode of Unplugged with them on it. Now I have only heard two songs from that group but I stand by this comment. How can that group do an Unplugged episode when they are so overly produced and sing with auto tune? They sound terrible with the auto tune, what fresh layer of hell must they sound like without it? Plus as someone who saw Nirvana on Unplugged, I am highly insulted that they put the horse crap of a band BTS on an episode.😄

I liked Kaycee during Big Brother and during her first season on the Challenge (This is her second right? Or am I mistaken) but yeah this season the ego is just getting to me. I watched that clip and I had no clue who Jisela was. I don't remember her at all, she was the only one. I am at the same point. I mean I am still watching, but I question why I am still watching. It's like last year's season of Big Brother after Janelle and Kaysar went, I keep on watching out of habit but I honestly am beyond caring what the outcome is. That is why I have not been posting in the episode threads, because I have nothing valid to say (Though I guess I never have anything valid to say, so I guess that is a poor statement to make about not posting.). Who flipped?

That was what I was coming on here to say, calling them All-Stars is a bit of a stretch. But I guess if Big Brother could call that cluster fuck of a cast from last season All-Stars, then MTV can call this group All-Stars. The Old Stars got a huge laugh from me.

I am normally neutral/in favor of Nany. I did want to see her lose because pretty much the entire house were backing her. Like you said it creates drama. Which, for the most part, is in short supply this season when it comes to votes and who wins in elimination challenges. The majority seems to get it's way all season long. I honestly don't think Fessy is going to win this season. Editing makes me think it could be Leroy or maybe even Darrell. Which by the way, is Darrell the only Road Rules person still doing the show on a semi-regular basis?

Aneesa will always have a special place in my heart because her Real World season was the first one I watched from start to finish. Prior to her season I would watch an episode here and there but never an entire season straight through. So I fully agree with you, while Aneesa is not in shape to run a final it still sucks to see everyone trash her. There really is not much to say about this episode. I guess I am in the minority here, in that I did not want to see Nany win her skull and I did not think of it as a feel good moment. Mainly because everyone in the peanut gallery was cheering for her. Also, Nany had the numbers to go in pretty much whenever she wanted to do so but chose not to go in and I think she knew she had the connections to choose when she wanted to go in.

I know this is not a Survivor thread but still. Natalie did not deserve to win Survivor 40, hell she did not even deserve to finish in second place. I am not saying this because I dislike her, I would be saying this about anyone who came back Edge of Extinction. I am still annoyed that, that one dude (I always forget his name and I am too lazy to look it up) won his season after spending nearly the entire season on Edge of Extinction. Still it is part of the game but Tony outplayed everyone that season and I am not even a huge fan of Tony. But Natalie's name should not have even been anywhere near the conversation for winning that season. If anything, Michelle got royally screwed because she should have finished in second place. Because her and Tony had to play the actual game.

I don't think I rolled my eyes more than when Kam said something along the lines of, "I like people to be humble." Paraphrasing what she said but it was something like that. I am thinking to myself, "Kam do you have any sort of self awareness in your body?" She might be one of the least humble people there. I hate seeing what happened to Big T. I have a soft spot for her even when she was acting like a jerk when she got power a few weeks ago. I just find her to be very cute and I like her personality and it sucks seeing CT dog her like that. Not switching partners but the way he went about it and I have always liked CT. Hell the reason why I liked CT in the first place was because he hated Adam all the way back in Paris and I could not stand Adam. So even when CT was a huge raging asshole I liked him, but this took him down some pegs in my book. For those who watch Big Brother did anyone get major Cappy gone/Jessie widows vibes when Nany and the other women were crying over Josh's elimination? What is it about Josh that everyone loves? I watched this guy for what four seasons of television and while he is not as bad as he was on Big Brother, I still view him as a piece of crap. Yet everyone he meets has this odd undying loyalty to him. I just don't get it. Nam brother you are an awesome guy and I hate to see someone like you go out like that. I hope he comes back because unlike Kam, this dude is the textbook definition of humble. I always say if I were to hang out with someone from the show I would probably pick Leroy. Well you could add Nam to that list, such a good dude and as a fellow suffer of back pain I know full well what it is like to have that happen to you. Also, please don't let Gabby fall to the curse of Corey. I have a thing for British girls (See Big T, Georgia, Melissa) and I would hate to see her go.

Actually I am wrong, because I thought for sure TJ told them. I would love to chalk it up to me getting the seasons confused or something like that, but I was flat out wrong.😄 By what you just said and by what Joanne says in the next quoted post below. The only time I was ever team Josh was when he was on Big Brother. And that was only during the first and last episodes of the season he won. I was team Josh during the first episode as he was targeted for early elimination and I thought he was slow (I am not trying to be mean here or not PC, I just cannot think of a better term to call him without being an asshole). I wanted to see him get a chance. Then I over the course of the season I came to realize what an asshole he was. During the final episode I was team Josh because he was, if you can believe this, in a final three with two people who were even more odious than him. One was a woman with mental problems who tried to/actually did (?) try to run someone over with a car. The other person was a hateful troll. So yeah Josh was the best out of the worst. As @aghst said, Hall Brawl is often mismatched which makes me not want to see it. I watch MMA and I would not bat an eye at the violence that happens in a fight, but there are weight classes there and they are trained athletes. On this show you have people like shorter Amber going in against Amber B. and Amber B. saying, "Yeah I play rugby." I thought it was a mismatch before that talking head, but once I heard that I was like, "Good god short Amber is going to be destroyed." That to me is not interesting to watch. Just like if they were to put Devin against CT. I would not want to see that happen.

Maybe I am bias because I find Jenna attractive, but she always seemed to me to be a nice person. Zach has had moments where I thought to myself, "Maybe he is not the raging asshole that I think he is.", such as cutting his hair off and giving it to Locks of Love. But those moments are few and far between. It sucks that Jenna and now a child are going to be stuck with him in their lives.

At the start of the season TJ absolutely told them if it was going to be a male or female day. So you are correct and are not missing anything. I think he stopped doing it during the third or fourth week. I would love to see that daily challenge as an Individual Challenge on Survivor. I kept on thinking about that as they were doing that challenge. That is probably why a lot of great players make for terrible coaches/managers. I love how Nany was all ticked off about Gabby not going in. But Nany chose to keep herself out until now as well. You can't get all indignant now that your window is closing to get a skull. I mean she probably could have easily gotten voted in during an earlier challenge with all of the allies she has. She has been playing the scared game as well. Lol to Kam saying she would take the time she had in power to smooth over anything beefs she had. That is obviously not true. Free Nam!

Cheyenne's reaction to that never fails to crack me up.

But that is not what I was talking about. Obviously Nam is well educated the dude can speak two languages at the very least. My concern is that this challenge typically deals with American pop culture. I was not expecting TJ to ask questions that had to do with general intelligence, I was thinking it was going to be more about typical pop culture stuff that he usually asks. Obviously I was less concerned once I realized that TJ was not asking American-centric pop culture questions only.

This is why I wanted to see her win. I didn't want Kam to get her way, but it ended up happening. Kam is starting to really become the new CM to me. Someone who I really liked as an underdog or not fully in control of the game. But once they get power they become insufferable. Which made the shallow part of me very happy. I can't get enough of beautiful women with British accents. The was my first reaction as well. I thought, "Well Nam doesn't have a chance here because it deals with our pop culture." I was happy I was wrong though.

I really hate musicals with a passion. I did not like it when they did it on Buffy all of those years ago and I skipped this episode. My question is, did anything of note happen during this episode or was it just a filler?

I do find it funny that Bill is having a conversation about being PC with Jimmy Kimmel. He is perhaps the most PC person out there. Now the Jimmy Kimmel from twenty years ago is different but who he is now...yeah totally PC.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Also, I thought he said on Big Brother that his family was well off and they owned a bunch of hair salons or something in Miami. I mean I guess owning a hair salon nowadays might not be profitable depending lockdown restrictions in the area, but I thought Florida was pretty much open. Kam irked me about the Kama comment. For one I do not believe in kama because people do bad shit all of the time and nothing seems to happen to them. Also, how arrogant does one have to believe that the universe will smite your enemies just because they wronged you? Not happy about Josh getting his skull but in the words of the late Randy "Macho Man" Savage, "It is, what it is." I wonder what the strategy is going to be for the guys who do not have their skulls. Do Darrell, Nam, CT, and the others try to take the skulls of someone like Fessy who might be hard to beat in a final or do you go after someone like Josh or Devin who while you might have a better shot at beating them. You would eliminated a weaker person who could be in the finals with you.

Is Amber B not part of the Big Brother alliance? Because nobody seems to mention her when talking about Big Brother players and I remember her from BB. Hard to forget her (Well because she's beautiful but that's not my point) because she had Caleb stalking her all season long. As @shantown said, I love how the canceled votes meant absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. I remember really disliking Jay on Survivor. But I have become a fan since seeing him on this show. My dislike of Natalie will never change though. I love how CT point blank said he hated Josh when he (CT) was talking to Kyle about the water tossing ordeal.

Same here, I just don't get the appeal of Cameo. Plus even if I was interested in it, you never know what you are going to get. I was listening to a segment from a wrestling podcast and they played a Jerry Lawler (He is a wrestling legend, the guy who slapped Andy Kaufman on Letterman all those years ago.) Cameo. He really put a lot of effort into the Cameo and it lasted at least five minutes. They then played a Cameo from another wrestler (I honestly forgot who it was, but it was someone who was a star in the wrestling world) and that Cameo only lasted a half a minute long. So yeah I think the whole thing is a waste of money.

I never watched the first season when it aired live (I saw bits of episodes here and there. Mainly because I live in Rhode Island and with Richard being from here he was an even bigger deal than he was nationally. So I felt obligated to watch a little bit of it.), my first full season was the Amazon (Though I did watch the final episode of Thailand and as stated before, I saw some of season one.). In fact, the first time I saw Sue, Rich, Jenna, and Rudy was on All-Stars. I finally did by the season one DVD shortly after All-Stars. When I finally did see season one I immediately disliked Kelly W., I am not sure why but I just did. Maybe it was like you said about how she would complain about being in an alliance. I also fell hard for Colleen, I just loved her personality and she was cute as well which did not hurt. My favorite first season challenge was the folklore one. Because I would have been like Rudy. I would not have paid attention to the story at all and then I would have run around saying, "I don't know."

I wonder if the Nam thing was something to do with being from Germany. I mean I only speak English (Some would argue that I hardly speak English correctly) but he has to speak at the very least two if not more languages (A lot of Europeans I have come into contact with can speak four or five languages). When I get yelled at I sometimes get flustered so to be yelled at in your non-native language has to be tough to process. Then you add on a grueling challenge on top of it, I really do not blame him for having lack of communication with Lolo. Plus from what little they have shown of him on the show, he seems like a very easygoing guy who might just want to avoid confrontation. Or he could be intentionally fucking with her, which is probably something I would do but he does not seem to be the malicious type. In regards to Kam, like @luckyroll3 said, I tend to not mind Kam. The Killer Kam stuff can be annoying but I watch wrestling and I always kind of viewed that as her gimmick. But after this season I am starting to wonder if it has become more of a gimmick and she is going Cara Maria on us. I hope not but who knows. I thought Kam said that Leroy's back was basically shot. If that is the case I highly doubt he would be back again win or lose. As someone who occasionally gets pretty bad back pain, it is no joke. Two years ago around Thanksgiving time I was in bed for about a month or so. Then right as my back started to feel better it seems like lockdown started. So while most people hated 2020, I hated 2019 and 2020.

Exactly and this is why this is laughable. Everyone needs a skull to advance but they are upset when they do not control the opportunity to get it. Then they bitch about someone throwing them into a challenge that they needed to do anyway. Kam came across as being really entitled in this episode.

Honestly even though I become obsessed (TM Tommy Bracco) with the show almost every summer, you haven't missed much. In the twenty years that you have missed there have been maybe four or five really good seasons (Seasons 3, 6, 10, and Fessy/Kaycee's season 20) the rest have been either somewhat watchable to just plain horrible (Too many seasons would fall into this section but Josh's season 20 and seasons 21 and 22 are really bad). As I was saying before the final three during the season that Josh won might very well be the worst final three out of any show in the history of reality television. It had three of the most unlikable assholes to ever grace television as the final three. Okay I know this is not a BB thread so back to the actual show I am meant to talk about... I don't mind something like Hall Brawl if the two people are evenly matched or somewhat evenly matched. Nelson/Fessy are somewhat evenly matched so I did not have a problem with them. But I would cringe if say it was someone like Jay or Mechie going against Fessy or CT. The challenge that took out Nicole and Liv I was not fond of. Even before both of them got injured, I had a strong feeling that there were going to be folks getting hurt in that challenge. I watch MMA and other contact sports and I have no problem with them putting themselves in harms way because they are highly trained athletes who know the risks (Well until recently a lot of football players did not know the risk but that is a whole other topic.). I do not enjoy seeing people on a reality show being put in certain situations because while a lot of the contestants are in fantastic shape, they have not been training for this their entire life, can you really train for some of these challenges, and that's what makes me wish they would ease back on some of these challenges.

He is actually pretty tame on The Challenge. He was a hell of a lot more annoying on Big Brother. But to tell you how loathsome the people were on his season of Big Brother. I absolutely despised Josh, yet once he was in the final three I wanted him to win so bad. Because the other two people in the final three were even worse. The guy he beat was the one who controlled Josh and told him what to do to get under people's skin. The other member of the final three was a chick who I think might be a legit psychopath. So yeah that tells you how bad that season was, when I was beyond thrilled that Josh picked up the win.