TheGreenKnight

Certainly the best on this panel. My favorite from this show was probably Paula Faris. Interestingly, Ana first joined the show the same season Paula did (and Sunny, too, actually). I also liked Abby. Sara is imitating the same function Abby played these days, but it's not really a good fit because Sara's been on the show expressing certain opinions for years. Her suddenly saying something very different now makes it seems like the show tells her what to say, whereas Abby was mostly herself. As far as personality, Alyssa is somewhere between Abby and Jedidiah (who I really did not like); so I'm never going to like Alyssa, but she doesn't "spoil" the show for me outright either. That's mostly in response to those who use that fact as a way to dismiss her jailing as justified and her life as worthless.

This can all be true and still be considered an unfair state of affairs at the same time though? And in a scenario like that one, it would become more about proportion. Is Griner paid proportionally in relation to what the WNBA makes to what a male player is getting in relation to what the NBA makes, for example. Anyway, to today's show. I agreed with Sunny that Sinema is re-writing history, that Arizona voted her in as what she was (it's not like her affiliation was hidden when they voted for her), and she's just trying to salvage her career now everyone despises her in her home state. Good luck!

I didn't get that either, I guess I'm more like Joy and Sunny. I mean, it would be over if someone I was with was "in love with" someone else, too, of course, but at least I think I could part amicably depending on the scenario. Sex, on the other hand, is an action and you can control your actions more than feelings. At least, I know emotions sometimes happen unexpectedly or uncontrollably. I disagree. I think Sunny was right that this story spotlights the uneven salaries between women and men in the same career. I don't think someone needs to be poor to "deserve" being paid equal to their male counterparts.

Whoopi was annoying yesterday, but she was a full-blown asshole today. Jeez. I don't care what she says, the Kardashians are NOT good actors and they definitely aren't role models. Ever since Whoopi and her family did that reality TV show some years ago, she won't allow anything less than worship for the Kardashians from anybody, ugh.

Sara and her hideous funeral parlor makeup pissed me off when they were talking about the whole gotcha border nonsense. Joy had barely spoke a sentence before Whoopi and then Sara both jumped in (because how dare Joy disagree with Whoopi even slightly). Joy let Sara speak and then when Joy tried to finish what she was saying Sara started going again and acted like Joy was the one interrupting her. I'm so tired of her acting like it's so hard for her and back-seat moderating the others. I was glad when Joy was snippy with her afterwards considering Sara's point was pretty stupid at that.

The LGBT topic was, as said above, a complete trainwreck. I think Sunny was the only one that got it right that it's about a protected class being denied. Alyssa in particular trying to frame a cake or any other product as "speech" was particularly eyeroll-worthy, you can see through her framing from a mile away. Sara is just nails on chalkboard these days. I know it's an UO here (oh, well), but I often find Sunny to be subtly hilarious with the way she puts on to get her disagreements out there when she knows the others are just going to throw cold water on anything she says. Between her during the older woman discussion and then "It's just a picture" to Sara and Alyssa, she was probably the best part for me today. The only thing that topped it was the last thing on Joy's list about pros for dating a younger man being you might need an organ someday. 😄

I remember Avalon (but I am a diehard, I guess). She and Sonika Vaid were my favorites from the 15th season's cast. I read the other day that Noah Thompson has moved to Nashville. He's released a song called "Make You Rich," although I'm not sure it's a single or merely an album track. Anyway, he and HunterGirl have teased a duet together (also not sure if that would be a potential single or just an album track).

Yeah... I don't think Ana dislikes Alyssa because she's jealous of her... I think it's more likely the other way around if there is jealousy at all considering Ana has popularity and fame unrelated to this show. What does Alyssa have that anyone would want? So I don't think that label applies. It's because of who Alyssa is, what she stands for, and what she espouses, the same reason some Viewers boycotted the show when she was hired. Ana has a right to her opinion on the subject as much as the Viewers do. Alyssa is very entitled if she thinks otherwise. Her quoting Albright of all people shows that she is still shameless and willing to say anything it takes, no matter how absurd it sounds coming from her.

Had to look up the clip being discussed above, but it seemed apparent to me that Alyssa was attempting to be shady towards the show itself with her comments and Ana undercut her with that Kellyanne Conway joke. Loved the audience laughter. Reminded me of when the last one who sat in that seat would make veiled shots at the show itself--if you don't want to be there, feel free to go... Heh. Too bad they didn't bring back Julia Haart along with JuJu Chang since they were missing two people anyway, honestly they were the two best guest co-hosts they had on last season. The show would be firing on all cylinders with one of them there instead of a career liar like Alyssa.

I'm skeptical that the Royal Family do much work themselves, to my view they mostly do PR events these days and get paid from the public's taxes.

I think they left because they, or at least Markle, didn't want to endure awful people, not because they didn't want to work?

@film noire: I had thought about the security aspect myself, too, but wow, I wouldn't have guessed it would rack up so high.

Sally Field, yay! I'd seen her doing the media rounds last week and hoped she might show up on this show, too.

Depends on how much they spend (or want to spend), I imagine. They're not living off taxpayers for the rest of their lives like I assume the rest of the royal family are?

I thought this one was so cute. The recurring jokes with the button were the highlight for me after them all on the ground with the turkey. Sad to hear this was Jordan's final episode, I thought I'd read back when his death happened that they'd filmed through episode 9 and assumed he'd be in episode 9, too. :( I agree with those saying the insults towards Kat are becoming a little too harsh to be believable. I'm so ready for Sheila in particular to be put in her place by somebody (Max?), she's been a complete twat to Kat every episode this season. I've generally found the show this season and last season more entertaining than a lot of posters, but even I admit the characters have been a bit more...mean and raunchy this season???

I don't blame them either, since I know this is probably mostly about supporting themselves financially. They have to take care of themselves some way or another, and it's not like someone at their fame level can take a random job. They'd easily be recognized and harassed.

I was surprised to see Joy today. Since she moderated Monday, I almost thought they were going to try flipping the week and have Whoopi moderate Friday's. I wonder how much longer before the show goes on break? I assume it being so close to the holidays is why Ana was there more this week than usual.

I don't think Whoopi was suggesting in any way that this was justification for Casey Anthony, she just objected to Alyssa inserting false ideas about supposed "biological instinct" for women into the topic when it was inappropriate. Also the point Whoopi made about not picking what you want because you're thinking of how the guy couldn't afford it and you don't want him to pay more, lol. But really Ana is the one that made me giggle on that topic when she went on some rant about how she can't drink cheap liquor or take cheap anything these days.

Refreshing to have a day without Sara. I agreed with Whoopi when she not so subtly blew up Alyssa's comment about instinct, because not all women are the same, being "maternal" is not something that comes naturally to every woman. Some people have it, some people don't. Also agreed with Joy in the opening segment that there need to be a mix of young and old leaders because the young can learn from the old. Whoopi said something there I thought was pretty dumb, but I'll let that be. I love Mindy Kaling. Not much else to say beyond that, it was nice to see her as a guest.

Joy looked great today in the red suit she was wearing. How much things have changed, I remember when Joy was the one who only ever dressed in black, meanwhile today Joy is the colorful one and everyone else was in black. 😄 I liked Sunny's hair, too. I disagreed with Sara today when she argued with Joy pointing out the inconsistency over LGBT issues versus women's issues. Sara claimed some people see abortion as "murder" because of religion and that's different, but that same extreme demonizing language for a woman's freedoms is used towards LGBT issues when they try to translate things related to LGBT (adoption or what have you) into claims of "child abuse" or "grooming." If you're going to try to legitimize that kind of inflammatory, demonizing language about issues for one group the way Sara did today, it is inconsistent to think it can't easily be applied to another group. I agreed with Joy calling Lee delusional, although I think it's more a calculated pretense he's putting on that nothing is in danger when everyone knows very well that it is.

Joy was talking to Teta off to the side and joking about how technology is beyond her as Sara tried to shut it off, lol. Personally, these little moments are fun for me usually, I don't really look to The View to be something oh so serious.

I was surprised to see Joy was moderating, but happy about it! The fiddling with the cell-phone at the beginning made me laugh, I don't know why someone didn't run it behind-the-scenes more quickly than that, lol. Also got a laugh out of Ana pointing out Sunny pronouncing "Desjardins" from her legal note almost like "sardines." Fun show today.

Well, I remember from the show that aired the day of the election 8 years ago (11/8/16, it might be on YouTube somewhere if you're interested) that she said she voted for his main opponent rather than someone else lower down because polls were so close.

Holiday week, so I only got around to watching Wednesday's show last night, and well... There was a little comment made at the beginning of the show that made me roll my eyes. I'm starting to detest Sara as much as I did Nicolle when she was there nodding along to Whoopi's petty, mean girl jabs against all the people she feels threatened by on any given day. To the posts above, Ana has never supported him. That's why Ana seems as repulsed by Alyssa as Sunny is most of the time. Last week, I loved when Ana and Joy clocked Alyssa for pretending to care about the character of a candidate when they were talking about someone else as if she doesn't have a known history. Ana didn't even look at her, just rolled her eyes to Joy, lol. Also, that other show has been unwatchable ever since they added male co-hosts (O'Connell in particular), not that it was ever that good to begin with. A show abandoning its original conceit like that is a sign of desperation and just shows how far it's fallen, hopefully The View is never bad off enough to consider the same mistake. Barbara always intended this to be a show for women's views.

I had checked into the opening of yesterday's show since I was hopeful Joy might be moderating, but unfortunately Whoopi was back already. And Ana wasn't there either? With Sara becoming more and more gross (going by today's show), too, that makes it even less likely I'd ever watch Monday's. Joy's comments about the Chrisleys were 👏-worthy. So true.