TheGreenKnight

Hopefully HRC will be there on a day when Joy is there. Thankfully the new season starts on a Tuesday rather than a Monday.

Yeah. She did alright the rest of the show, so I give her a break for a little nervousness her first month or so on the job. Filling the Maddow time slot would be particularly daunting for anyone, I imagine. I enjoyed her. And I liked the graphics and look of the show as well.

I've enjoyed John Heilemann filling in for Nicolle Wallace. I think he'd be okay with his own show. I like him more than Ari Velsher, Morning Joe, Andrea Mitchell, Stephanie Ruhle, or Chuck Todd--just to name a few that come to mind. I loved his interactions with Vaughn Hillyard, too. I'd take Jen Psaki and even Tiffany Cross over any of those names, too. Alex Wagner's show hasn't aired yet for me to comment on her, but she seemed alright a couple of weeks ago when she showed up one of the nights they were all there together covering the 1/6 committee.

You'd think they'd have wanted Alyssa off on Monday's so they could all still have a day together without her, lol.

I see they're airing an episode from the week Ruffin co-hosted, when Ana's grudge began. Seeing that on the schedule and a re-run of Tara yesterday--I'll be honest that that particular situation is why I'm glad Tara didn't make it onto the show, aside from the fact I just plain ol' don't like Tara. It was obvious Ana and Sunny were pushing hard to get Tara in the seat, their egos would have got even more out of control if they'd felt they had "won."

I believe the only co-hosts who haven't been fired are Meredith and O'Donnell. I didn't think Lisa was fired either until recently back when she was on the show this season that she said she was, and that surprised me.

You'd think so, but the McCain years showed how little respect the show and the people there have for Joy to have allowed all of that, which is ironic considering without Joy agreeing to return in 2015 this show wouldn't even exist right now. There would be a third hour of GMA in this time slot. I don't buy it was Joy's decision since in the little video they had ending the show today, Joy said she doesn't think she would ever retire... That tells me her age isn't bothering her at all. It's more that someone had to sit out for Monday's, they likely pushed at Joy to be the one, and she went along to get along because she's always been that way. If she just wanted a 3-day weekend, it would've happened organically rather than simply because they needed someone to sit out for Ana's sake. Maybe Joy agreed to it since Ana is being a drama queen with her lately anyway--one less day to be around her. If Ana's going to keep being a raincloud on Friday's with Joy next season, she can eat rocks. Go back to your 3-minute guest spots on CNN and take the stilted jokes you read off Twitter with you. Speaking of other co-hosts who the show has treated like shit, that video they showed reminded me how I wish Rosie Perez could've come back as a guest co-host for the 25th anniversary although I understand if she wouldn't have been interested. I mean, I knew there was zero chance for O'Donnell appearing (she wouldn't have wanted to with Whoopi there and Whoopi wouldn't have allowed it anyway). I wonder if they even bothered reaching out to Perez at all.

I don't think anyone's going to reach Whoopi levels, lol. With Joy having been reduced to make room for her now 🙄, I'm going to dread Ana trying to stink up Joy Friday's even more next season.

Having watched the show myself, I know that wasn't the case. Ana had already stopped talking before Joy started telling the story. Ana's an asshole.

I guess that means I'll have 40 hours free now with Joy-less Monday's deleted.

Oh, yeah, she was mean to McCain, but I felt McCain started that exchange and Ana finished it. The only thing I know of that Joy's done to Ana is a few months back when Whoopi was out filming Joy went to commercial without letting her speak on a topic once because they'd run out of time. As if she's the only one that's happened to before--and she's still carrying that grudge. Get a grip.

Ana's comment after Joy's story about the dogs is why she's getting on my nerves lately. I liked her because, tbh, she reminded me of Joy, actually--despite their political differences--in that she could let things go, not take anything too seriously, have fun. But lately she's been morphing into Sunny--not able to let /anything/ go, making petty comments every time Joy speaks, sometimes days later about something nobody in the world gives a shit about, jeez. If you hate being there so bad, feel free to leave any time.

I guess part of me wonders if it's her decision so much as others considering she was mysteriously absent the first half of this season pretty often whenever the conservative try-outs would be trying out as if to make it "easy" for them... And with Teta favoring people like Alyssa, Stephanie, and Lindsey among the people who auditioned on top of having coddled McCain back when, well... I don't think her age is evidence Joy "needs" a day off. The View isn't hard labor.... Sunny's probably the only one who has to do much prep beforehand because of her legal notes. I feel the same about Joy being off Monday's as I would if if/whenever she retired: I wouldn't care if she's off as long as it's her decision. Barbara Walters got pushed out at ABC because she became too difficult for people there (at least that was my read on the situation although they'd never say it), since she was sort of a micromanaging type and her age took a toll on her ability to control everything as well as she once did, imo. If anything, Joy is more coherent and much less difficult towards people at the show than Whoopi in the present, much less when compared to Barbara at the time Barbara left, so I don't think Joy's age should mean anything in that regard.

Well, I hate that Joy will be off Monday's. When Whoopi stopped appearing on Friday's, it was a RELIEF because she'd got to be so unbearable after Rosie and Paula. That became the best day of the week. But a day without Joy is a Fast Forward Day. I'd much rather Joy, Sara, Sunny, and Alyssa alternate the day off. I mean, if it's Joy who wants a three day weekend, I'd say good for her. But if it's the show making that decision, they're morons. Sara, Sunny, and Alyssa are much more expendable than the other three as far as who the viewers tune in for, let's be real here.

I knew it would most likely be between Stephanie and Alyssa for the seat because of Teta. Personally, I was glad they went with Alyssa of the two because she's more unlikable. Stephanie had a sort of fragile, almost sympathetic quality. And, to me, someone who looks nice spewing evil things is much more dangerous. Whereas Alyssa, I mean... She just looks like a snake, tbh. Whenever she's speaking, she has this look on her face as if she's being sneaky with her words.

I think they finally made her "official co-host" to shutdown the media trying to push misinformation about the show that she's been passed over or whatever. She probably still will only be there Monday's and Friday's. I loved her back when she started on the show as contributor in 2015. Lately, she's been getting on my nerves a little with the weird attitude she has towards Joy, but I do still like her. Joy correcting her pronunciation of Teta was probably just her getting back at Ana for doing the same thing to her all the time, heh. As for Alyssa--I don't like her, of course, but she's not going to ruin the show for me like McCain did. We all have our different tolerance levels, for me how I'd rank the people who've been in that "role" based on Easiest to Tolerate to Unbearable, it would be Ana > Paula > Abby > Elisabeth > Candace > Alyssa > Jedidiah > McCain. Those last two were the worst and Alyssa isn't at their level for me. *shrug* YMMV. I leave Nicolle off the list because my opinion on her time at The View was complicated; I like her as a personality on her own more most of those others, but with Whoopi she was horrible. So Alyssa was an "eh, fine" choice as far as being neither a plus nor a minus to the show in that way, I guess? Thankfully she doesn't shout or scream, I can't stand that.

For me, it immediately made me think of that old SNL skit of her back when, where she was bringing out papers she'd printed off. Hard to believe, going on 15 years later, and that skit still has her down to a T!

McCain was worse than Elisabeth to me though. She used the same language, "infanticide" and all that. They're both vile, but McCain was so much worse, imo.

I'd forgotten Joy had an ectopic pregnancy at one time. I'm glad she brought it up today because, despite what Elisabeth would like to believe, women with ectopic pregancies will be affected by these abortion bans. It's too bad Whoopi felt restrained by the need to be polite because she's only there for one day, I'd have loved if Whoopi had felt free to say what she really thinks. Thankfully, the others don't feel that restrained going by this second segment. This "correction" post-commercial with Joy, please... If it's an embryo and no longer an egg, and life begins at conception, then it would still be "murder" according to Elisabeth's logic. So, yes, it is relevant to the conversation she began--and it highlights what nonsense that kind of inflammatory language is. Go Sara! I'm glad someone was there to give the other side as far as Christians go--not all of us Christians are like Elisabeth, with her judgmental spiel. And I loved Sunny bursting the bubble at the end of the topic, after the whole discussion had been about what the Bible says as if we're living in a theocratic state, by wondering why what the Bible says should have relevance to what the law is in a country where there's supposed to be freedom of religion.

I happened to see this on the sidebar of Primetimer's recent headlines when I opened the link @bluegirl147 had posted in the Future Hosts thread: https://www.primetimer.com/news/florida-governor-ron-desantis-the-view Cowardly, but I'm not really surprised. Freedom of opinion isn't really his thing. I'm surprised he doesn't try to have The View banned from airing in his state since Joy's and Sunny's views bother him, lol.

I haven't got a big laugh from the show in a while now, but Joy saying the insurrectionist who went to jail should have to scrub Pelosi's floors as part of his rehabilitation got me going.

Ana does live in Florida, so I'm not surprised if her local news sticks out in her mind more.

When the show first started, I was about to roll my eyes so hard because it looked like they were about to make Will Smith their first topic again, lol. Thankfully, they gave the first segment to something that actually matters. Pretty good discussion. Joy's right that McCarthy, McConnell, DeSantis, and so on are more focused on antagonizing veterans, women, LGBT, threatening to ban birth control, etc. than they are kitchen table issues, but they're seldom held to the same standard.

Yeah... I'm one of the few who don't like Tara--I agreed with her more than the other three in the running, it was more a personality / manner thing with her that bugged me--so I was happy when Tara made the mistake of shouting over top of Whoopi several days she was there... I knew Whoopi would never let her get the seat after that, lol. Lindsey on the other hand seemed so desperate to get this job (I assume for a pay raise compared to her other job) that she would say and do anything, and as LOUD as it would take. Alyssa always seemed like she would be the one they picked. She looks like a mixture of Elisabeth and Jedidiah, the pageant-esque Foxbot type The View always goes with.

Good show today, especially Billy Porter. I ended up agreeing with Ana for most of hot topics, whether it was comparing Biden to Trump in the first segment or mocking how much gravity people have attached to the Will Smith discussion among so many serious things happening these days in the second segment. Like Sunny, I think Will Smith should also apologize to Sykes, Hall, and Schumer.