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Things that Chick(y) has going for it as an imprint: it's part of a large, well-organized, multimedia company with plenty of staff (apparently), they have money to give a more than decent salary to the head of the imprint instead of seconding a lowly assistant to do the job part-time for assistant pay, Liza can openly have a relationship with Charles.* *Though I worry that Charles, who now has plenty of time on his hands, is going to be needy and distracting. I know he said he wants to be there for his daughters -- who seem to have been bringing up themselves -- but he's not going to have anything else to do. Liza, on the other hand, wherever she works, is going to be busy. Oh, and I'm glad someone mentioned the bad optics of dating your employee, no matter how consensual the relationship is.

It was also in public, in a place where he was surrounded by authors, competitors and industry insiders, as well as his potential investors. I know beer halls can be loud but that doesn't mean you have conversations filled with confidential information. I bet that neither Empirical nor Millennial are publishing e-books or audible books either. It's been decades since traditional publishing merged with the tech world.

Charles has got to be one of the worst businessmen in New York. It was about October when he couldn't make payroll, December when he was handing out jaw-dropping bonuses, and now a few months later, they're broke again.* Why doesn't he sell his country place? That should cover at least a couple of months of payroll. *Of course, Bing tells me that the Frankfurt Book Fair is in mid-October, so I guess it could be a year since he's was broke last time... Nah, this show lives in its own timeline. P.S. I was amused to hear that AARP is one of the sponsors of Younger.

Aren't we two episodes from the end of the series? (Josh and Caitlin would feel far too much like incest. I can, however, see Caitlin with the older professor - she was always a Daddy's girl.)

True, but marrying Charles gives her an insta-family (with the added excitement of Pauline as the bio-mom and ex-wife). And you know that Liza is going to be the one looking after them (and/or dealing with their nannies). Ooh, ooh, ooh - she could marry Charles, then he and Pauline die in a plane crash, she gets custody of the girls, marries Josh who gets a family and Liza doesn't have to go through childbirth again. Win Win Win. ;-)

I was thinking back to Season 1(?) when Liza first babysat for Charles. That's when I saw a spark between them -- but it went out for me.

I think it's also about the divorce too.

I know Josh is problematic but he gives much better full-body hugs than Charles does. Oh, and when he's in relationship, he's pretty public about it.

Who is the big blond male model? Most recently he's had really long hair.

Red flags were fluttering throughout for me in this episode. Yes, Charles is behaving immorally, if not illegally. He's having an undercover affair with a woman who is his low-level employee - Liza is still Diana's assistant, with a side job as a principal in Millennial. (What does she get paid? Assistant minimum wage or chief editor salary?) That is already a sexual harassment waiting to happen. It already leaves him open to (inadvertent) blackmail. (I agree with Miss Evo that he bought the book because he thought Redmond was hinting about revealing the affair.) If he really cared for Liza (and his business), he would have waited to have sex with her when he was legally free (completed his divorce). He would have spun off Millennial into its own separate company. We know the imprint is successful, it's played its part in keeping Empirical afloat. He would have established Liza officially as a senior editor/publish and THEN begun a relationship with her as an independent woman. He's not a horny teenage boy who can't wait. (One the most romantic things I've heard recently was from a man who started a relationship with the premise that his woman friend was the one forever - not just a casual fling.) The secret relationship is so not sexy for me. I've been in too many of them, and always felt as if I was an embarrassment to the man, and not good enough to be considered an official partner. I'm worried for the girls too. He's been their primary parent for over a year and he can only cook 4 meals? I guess they've been brought up by nannies and housekeepers (and Liza as baby sitter.)

For some companies, people are required to use up their vacation time or lose it before the end of the calendar year. The time between Christmas and New Year's is generally a quiet time at work because everyone is doing this - often, the only people onsite are peons or temporary contractors that aren't paid if they aren't at work. We only follow the executives (and Liza, who, as a major player in Millennial, is basically an executive who gets peon pay).

Wasn't it just a month or two ago that Charles couldn't make payroll? What's he doing giving out bonuses that cause a lowly assistant to be gobsmacked by?

There's a good reason why Liza doesn't want any more biological children - she's surrounded by them in her love life. There's her first husband, her boyfriend, her boss..

Liza did offer to resign.

Charles is also someone who never had to look for a job. He had one waiting in his family publishing house. And, @chybee23, Liza has more options than Charles or Josh -- she even has an option of no-one for a while.

If Charles was attracted to the person that Liza actually is (bright, literate, interested and knowledgeable about literature, mature) and not about the attractive, young thing she seems to be, he would be relieved that she is actually age-appropriate for him and a person who is right to take the place of mother of his children. Instead, he's butt-hurt that she "lied to him", which says, to me, that he was far more invested in the fantasy than he is in the reality of a relationship with the real Liza.

I'd like to see Liza, Kelsey, and Diana take over Empirical and make it a raging success. Charles can retire to his country place and sulk for all I care. Romantically, I'd like to see all three women be at the start of a new relationship with men who are smart, emotionally mature, and in love with who the women actually are.

I watched this and couldn't help thinking "You're just upset because your fantasy 27 year-old subordinate is actually age-appropriate?" Yes, he should fire her or let her resign before they start dating. Yes, if he got away from the fact that he's not with some hotty half his age, he'd understand why she did what she did and why she was absolutely not able to tell her boss/owner of the company about it. Sorry, he really annoys me as a character even though he's 99% going to be endgame. When Josh turned up, I suddenly relaxed into the show.

Those seem so restrained, they might be pearl studs.

I'm just watching the show now and HAD to come here to comment on how absolutely distracting (and not in a good way) those earplugs were. The pig rings are bad enough but these are so unappealing. (Yeah, yeah, I'm old.) She didn't have them before, did she? I think I would have remembered.

Nitpicky question: if Steve and his team were traveling around the globe doing something (it was not clear to me quite what that was) that resulted in them looking sad, ungroomed, and raggedy, how did they get the jet, and how did they pay for jet fuel?

On a shallow note: I was very happy Cap didn't die in this movie and was sad that he was so devastated. I guess I'm just going to have to volunteer to comfort him...

I make a lovely strawberry ice cream with black pepper and balsamic vinegar (for the snarky bite?).

I'm sad -- Jason Ritter's character was fun and good-natured but they really didn't have any clear idea of a plot.

By the time they get to Devante, he'll be lucky to get a card.