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In the About the World of Outlander after segment, Matt Roberts explains just how they were able to film the bison for this episode. Yes, there apparently is a bison reserve somewhere in England, even though bison are native to North America. They almost went totally extinct, but we can thank Ted Turner for saving them.
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Ask the Outlanders: Questions for the Bookreaders
theschnauzers replied to Athena's topic in Outlander
The other problem dating back to season two is having Jamie’ printing press be totally destroyed. In the books, Fergus runs a print shop using Jamie’s printing press. Without that there’s not much that can be shown. -
In 607, Roger and Bree discuss teaching/singing to Jemmie the entire song, even if Roger doesn’t make it back, and here, Bree is doing just that. The use of the song was a metaphor of Bree was trying to induce Roger out of the PTSD was using the song, I found nothing odd about it.
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We know from 607 that the battle of Alamanac was in 1771, and referencing Jamie’s 50th birthday it was in May. The PTSD scenes shown began three months later, but not all in a day, with Aunt Jocasta and Lord John having both visited. So young Ian likely returns in the autumn of 1771. The Fraser’s trip to rescue Roger took several months each way last season, And Roger took a detour on the return trip plus there are the events of this season before the battle. My educated guess given distances and times, is those events wow in 1769 to 1770. So I think Ian was with the Mohawk around two years.
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Rather than using different minor characters or letters from Lord John, as was the case in the books, Lord John comes to visit. He doesn’t live all that far away in Virginia, and his connection with the British aristocracy, both in Londgon and the Colonies, points to a way to simplify things. John did get the astrolabe for Jamie and Claire in the book, by having William Ransom procure it. With Ransom studying in London, Lord John has opportunities to visit. It seems John was there for Murtagh’s burial, and he was the one who presented the letter rom the governor about the new land grant to Roger and Bree. In short, his more frequent visits than in the book serve a purpose. And David Berry is a favorite.
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Ian helped Jamie survey Fraser Ridge last season for protecting the legal title, so he would know how to get back to the cabin, but he ran into Jamie Claire and Jemmie and killed the boar.
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The show actually spoiled Young Ian’s return in the opening credits this week. But remembering Ian did return in the books in The Fiery Cross, I had been wondering when we would see it. And it led to a powerful performance by John Bell. I think we’ll learn more about Ian’s time with the Mohawk going forward, just as in the books, we didn’t learn the whole story of it all at once. A P.S. In the discussion among the characters about past trauma during the episode, no one mentioned Young Ian’s past trauma because of Gellis which I think was Young Ian’s original motive in volunteering to take Roger’s place with the Mohawk last season. So I can definitely see why the Young Ian return from the Mohawk couldn’t be fully explored in this episode. He had a different heartbreak with the Mohawk, and his reason for doing so, to deal with his own PTSD, is something that’s still out there to address.
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I love these last two episodes. The fact they are a skillful condensation of The Fiery Cross is a good thing since it brings back Ian, which Matt Roberts admit in the World of Outlander segment, was “early.” Rollo is an adult doggie now but I’m very glad to see him and John Bell back. The decision to have Young Ian go with Roger to survey Roger and Bree’s land grant and get them to each confront their separate demons, and given Ian’s sacrifice to save Roger with the Mohawk at the end is last season, was a perfect piece of work by the writers, and Richard and John pulled that off perfectly. And I like this more mature Ian, and it’s clear there will be a need for him going forward. And tying in future Roger lecture point about “burying thr hatchet “ and past day Ian actually doing so, was brilliant, just as Bree singing Clementine to Jemmy after Roger’s doing so in the last episode. I had no problem with the silent film, flashback device and how it was used to show Roger’s PTSD on the one hand and inform us about how traumatized Roger was. Then there’s the scene with Jocasta at Frazier’s Ridge. This episode has so much shine in it for so much of the cast fully of Emmy winning performance I just can’t say enough.
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Another cast member who’s cast as the American doctor in Paris, is Brian J. Smith of Sense8 and Threadstone. One of my personal favorites. And Cameron Monaghan is in this as well, although I haven’t figured out his character yet.
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The released date for the DVD is in late April, but if you want to get it through Amazon, delivery will be delayed due to the priorities Amazon has placed on essential items due to the COVID19 pandemic.
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Back when the viewers realized that Murtaugh had survived Culoden and the exile to America, I had suspected this would be the point he would die. The biggest remaining mystery from this part of the book series remaining that was briefly shown last episode, the gold bars is still out.
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IIRC, it was in 1968 or 1969
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IIRC Knox told Jamie he’d report him to th Governor for treason for anything he had done once his militia arrived in Brownsvile, even though Knox had killed a prisoner in cold blood. So it was self defense of his family even if you excluded Murtaugh, and he was protecting his godfather for the war he knew was to come.
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Perfect way is to read Diana’s own summaries in both volumes of the Outlandish Companion, which also includes bio blurbs of every character in the book series.
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Ask Apple, their autocorrect feature has become very annoying since iOS 13 came out. It probably was meant to be exposed people.
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That’s not a consensus. While people who have autoimmunity disorders or who are more likely to get illnesses may be more likely to become ill, no one is immune. The symptoms for most expletive tested so far are mild, enough so that they aren’t aware that they’ve been infected with the coronavirus as opposed to other illness, it is not a flu and it isn’t a cold. Not enough is known to say only certain groups are particularly venerable. That’s no different than it is for the flu. The other worrisome element is that one can be reinfected by the coronavirus. And the consequences of that aren’t clear. TAR is tough on people who are older, and that alone is a factor in casting. The 32nd season was filmed in very later 2018, so that a season was on the shelf when season 31 aired. That was the intention with filming 33 now. And it is important to remember this was a “temporary suspension” because of the coronavirus outbreak. It had reached a point where safety couldn’t be assured and filming options and how to travel to them safely had disappeared in that one week of filming three legs. As to how the season “will be worked”, the best example is how the original season worked out two temporary shutdowns. After the second leag, teams spent two extra days because of a flu outbreak in the cast and crew. Then in India, the race had to sit out several days while permitting issues in China were resolved. But the point is the filming was not cancelled, just suspended. This situation is a difference of degree as to how it is being handled.
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They didn’t suspend during mid-leg. The CBS statement said three legs were completed. From what CBS said in that statement, and what Bertram said in a reply post on FB about this. “There wasn’t a choice”, all options had been foreclosed for filming a fourth leg. I’ve reviewed the news information that developed over the week and especially in the 48 hours prior to the CBS announcement, and that really was the only conclusion. The issue here is travel options that were safe. And with cases now appearing on every continent but Antartica, connecting flights had become quite problematic. As to Survivor, filming its next two seasons soon, travel is likewise an issue, and with coronavirus cases breaking out along the US west coast, even flight connections become risky. This coronavirus can apparently survive 9 days on a surface, the incubation period is still not known, and it apparently can reinfect people. So even Survivor is at risk. At least one other CBS show has already been impacted. The CBS Summer drama, Blood and Treasure is currently filming, and at last report were filming overseas. They had done filming in China. All this is just the tip of the iceberg. TAR 33 has not been cancelled, but TPTB are going to have to reassemble the local teams and decide their primary and backup legs. And it’s totally unclear when the coronavirus pandemic will have passed.
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Keep in mind, the idea is to resume once the medical issue is resolved so that travel is safe. CBS stated explicitly that three legs had been completed. One of the issues, if you reason it out, was where could the Race get to safely and avoid transportation hubs where there was a chance of transmission of the coronavirus. While it is not transmitted airborne, a person can risk exposure from unsterilized surface from contact anywhere as the coronavirus can survive for nine days. As a consequence, the available safe options for legs or backup legs and travel options disappeared quite quickly during that one week in filming three legs. It’s a pandemic, simply put, and it looks to be the most serious since the “Spanish Flu” pandemic of 1918-1919. Many events, productions around the world have been and are being effected by the coronavirus. Others may be in the coming days and weeks. We will all need to be vilagent in the meantime.
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Just in the last 36 hours have cases been reported along the US Pacific coast, including five whose origins can’t be explain to travel from infected areas, or secondary infections in persons known to have been tested with a positive result. So CBS and production are making the right call. One thing to remember: Authorities are trying to isolate and quarantine this infection. San Francisco issued a declaration of emergency just a few days ago. And the CDC has said it’s not a question of whether it will spread, but when. They’re still not sufficiently ahead to isolate the overall infection.
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The great American road trip ides was season 8. Met with universal razzies. That won’t make a comeback.
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The show was able to survive the security issues post 9/11, and that was global as well. Other CBS shows, like Survivor, and som dramas, like Blood and Treasure, are also going to be challenged as well. And I’ve read some mention of San Diego ComicCon, May need to make a decision as well, as studios will have to decide whether to participate by the end of May as well. Deadline is maintaining a list of coronavirus affected events, productions, etc., locations, and venues as well that is being continually updated. https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-canceled-postponed-hollywood-sports-entertainment-1202870762/
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I’m wondering if the attempted Krypton Seg El cameo on Crisis (Cameron Cuffe confirmed the attempt but he had an acting commitment) is canon for Earth Prime anyways. That was the most in-depth use of Rao anywhere in the DCTV universe and would make the reference more understandable.
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It sounds as if the good pied piper created by Flashpoint in season 2 got reverted by Crisis, which Barry referenced. That’s a plus for post Crisis because having Andy Mientus back is a very good thing!
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I’m glad Hetty was live and in person for this one. We will miss Linda Hunt when she leaves the series. It’s been headed that way for a season and a half. And she one of the reasons I started watching NCIS:LA at the beginning. The show is so different when she’s there.
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It was apparent to me that when the print shop burned and that printing press burned and wasn’t saved, that particular book story line was being skipped.