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I felt sorry for Hope today - so kudos (I guess) to KM - this is the first time I've actually felt anything in any scene she's done. (Other than irritation...) And I honestly felt sorry for Quinn and Wyatt, too. Just don't get me started on Liam - though you all have covered that pretty well. In the ER, couldn't Liam have just said 'she's my sister-in-law and we're trying to contact her husband'? That would make him family, with a right to be there...

I had read earlier that Hope fell down some stairs but those stone steps weren't exactly what I was picturing. As she tumbled all I could think of was - don't wealthy people have security cameras on their grounds? I hope so, for Quinn's sake. And I have never seen Steffy, so I'm a little curious about her.

I was thinking coma, at least. Then when she wakes up, she's someone else?

I can't even pretend to rationalize the show making Laurel look so bad in S2 - with flashbacks showing her scheming to get Oliver for herself and away from Sara. Or her reaction to Sara returning from the dead. I'm bitter about that, especially since all that remains onscreen is Laurel's addiction. I guess it gives her something of a life (AA meetings and bonding with Quentin) but what a waste of time it all was for the audience. This show is still under my skin though. I'm even bitter about how much fun the crossover episodes were. It's proof that the writers and producers can bring it if motivated...

So, did Quinn crash the shower or was it a fantasy sequence?

IMO, racial diversity took a real hit (not that it was ever all that great) once all the soaps were gone from NY. One Life to Live was probably the best. But to do people of color well you need a diverse writing staff and the way they keep recycling staff and stories, I don't expect to see that ever happen before they all get cancelled.

I actually have several of them (and read them all back in the day) and I agree, they are pretty good. I remember the good old days of haunting the bookstore every month waiting for the new Trek novels to appear. (circa 1980s). I envy the British fans, who had the same experience with Doctor Who.

The James Blish ones, not the movie ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_%28Blish%29 And I love Jo Grant.

I was happy to see Slade go by the end of S2 but I do miss the actor and his marvelous voice.

If only...

Same here...

I wouldn't want Wells to be Felicity's father, what with the murdering people thing. I'd be okay with him knowing about - or being involved with - his disappearance.

I didn't get a Pretty Woman vibe from the dress/necklace scene but more of a Kaylee/Shindig vibe. (Firefly) I think it's an interesting part of Felicity's character that she likes pretty dresses and isn't the stereotypical geek. :-) I laughed when she inhaled the couture dress.

I thought Barry was more like 10 when his mother was killed? I just binge watched the show to date this weekend, so it's all kind of running together in my mind, though. One thing that bugs me about super hero shows is how ignorance is supposed to keep someone safe. Has it EVER worked out that way? :-)

Me, either. They had a firmly established BFF relationship as kids. Even if Joe hadn't taken Barry in, there's a good chance their relationship would be exactly where it is now. Barry having a one-sided thing for Iris is kind of a relief after the mess that was the sister-swapping in Arrow.

I'm interested in seeing how this plays out. Do the "because comics" fans who want Laurel as BC outnumber the actual Arrow fans? I'm personally thinking this is a step too far but who knows?

Ugh. That was almost 6 hours (Arrow) of my life I will never get back. But then it did show me where the charm, camaraderie and what little light Arrow used to have went - to the Flash. Which was fun and intriguing and I enjoyed almost every minute watching it. So I guess I'm ready for the cross-over even though I'll probably stop recording Arrow once it airs. p.s. The episode Sara was one of the worst pieces of television I've ever seen.

I don't like TM choosing sides in a mob war but it wasn't as if they went hunting for Dominic specifically. Despite Harold trying to embed morality into the code, we know the Machine is just as likely to throw Elias's number as any other potential victim, so either it doesn't care what he does or it really sees Elias as the better choice when it comes to mob bosses. Since the Machine sees crimes in the planning stage (primarily terrorism but catching irrelevants too) I'm assuming Harold had to teach it to ignore a certain amount of organized crime or those crimes would overwhelm the potential results. If so, then Harold inadvertently caused this situation. :-) I don't know if they ever addressed how organized crime fit into the Machine's algorithms. I might have missed it.

I wish I had liked this episode more. It did have some good moments but it felt very scattered to me. And I still dislike Dominic and the Brotherhood. An intelligent, brutal, ambitious thug is still a thug in the end. And thugs are tiresome, not entertaining. Even Elias couldn't save this episode for me. Obviously just more pawns being placed on the chess board for whatever showdown the EPs have planned. Yawn. I don't get Martine either. She's supposed to be intelligent (an investigator for the Hague?) but what kind of dumbass shoots up a cosmetic department? None of this makes a police report - or the news or YouTube or Facebook or Twitter? Why doesn't Harold start wondering about that? Is Samaritan suppressing that kind of content or are people self-censoring? (That might actually be interesting... ) PoI is my show, so I get cranky when I don't like an episode. :-)

I guess I'm going to take the plunge and catch up on Arrow and The Flash. Well, I may skip (or FF) a few Arrows - it depends how much Laurel annoys me. I may be back in a couple of days to rant. :-)

The problem with Hope being gone for a few days is that she's so jarring when she returns. And while I agree she has a point with Quinn, the baby is in no danger from her at the moment, so I wish she would lighten up. Shouldn't Wyatt at least warn Hope that a rejected Quinn is potentially even more unpredictable? It will be easier to keep an eye on her if she isn't all dark, broody and scheming.

Thanks for the input. This explains a lot about S3. I lose track of which EP is more aligned with which storylines, hence my skittishness re: The Flash. I don't need another show to make me bitter. Arrow has that covered. :-)

I've been stockpiling S3 episodes (and S1 Flash) and need to find a way to either coexist with the bitterness and catch up enough to watch the crossover or delete them all and move on. (Bitter and hooked on a show you aren't watching only works for so long...) Or maybe I should wait until they finish up the first half and then decide? This show. It's making me crazy and not in the fun way. It's kind of ironic, because just when I was lowering my expectations , coming to terms with Sara and thinking of wading back in, I read all of the posts about the way they are writing Felicity and Team Arrow - not to mention - and it makes me wonder if I should even bother. But I did like Secret Origins and obviously, still wish I was watching. I need some honest opinions from (how to put this politely?) any non-LL fans who have kept up with both shows. Is The Flash worth sucking it up and binge-watching this weekend?

I don't think I'll be deleting this episode off the dvr for quite a while.

As a relatively new viewer, I have no emotional attachment to Ridge but I understand when a character that iconic has been played by the same actor for so long, it's really hard to accept a different actor. It probably doesn't help that he doesn't seem to have much chemistry with KKL.