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I finally got to actually see some gymnastics without watching it on DVR. I was getting so annoyed how it was almost always after 11 pm.... I was surprised they actually showed it before then last night after the couple hours of track and field. I was almost giving up. I just find it funny how they hype up the gymnastics and then put it on so late that it is in one of the worst viewing times of all of the disciplines.

I am in the camp of Luke's date was a bit overwhelming. I think it is a bit much to throw someone into a situation where they are meeting so many people at once without much warning. That is just not for everyone, and you could tell how much more comfortable Jojo was when it was just the smaller family together. I guess on the other hand if Luke wants to know if a woman is right for him, he should continue to have this as a sort of first date type thing--he can quickly weed out those that don't really care for his day to day lifestyle.

I feel differently about the Barbara/Jace thing than a lot of the recent posts. I don't think she is perfect, but I think Jace can clearly see the difference between what he has with Barbara and what he has with Janelle. I think he sees that Barbara provides him with a fairly stable and normal life, and I think it is clear when we see Barbara and Jace together on a normal occasion and Janelle isn't around. They seem to live fairly peacefully and normally. I don't agree that he will have issues with Barbara keeping him from Janelle on occasion because I think he feels glad to have someone to do that for him. He might say things to please Janelle that he wants to be with his mom, but I don't have any doubts he would be just fine without her, and he knows it...he knows his stability comes from his real home. Not the one that Janelle and Dave provide for him.

Thanks for the updates on Nathan's custody. I read the Janelle thread often, but I am sure I miss things here and there. I am glad he finally has time with Kaiser as it will be good for Kaiser to be away from Janelle and Dave once in a while. Not that Nathan is a prize but I honestly like him far more than Dave. Scary!

The thing that always gets me, is as much as I don't like Janelle--what is up with Nathan always leaving it up to her to give him time with Kaiser? Why hasn't he had time petitioned from the court yet? Has he still not tried? I am so confused by this....

I agree with others that she isn't really developing any relationships or using her time wisely to get to know the guys. And why she kept the two guys at the end, only to dump them very soon makes no sense to me.

Has Miranda asked to not be on the show? We don't see much of her anymore. I would think she would want to be on, even if it was just for quality control to counter what Leah has to say about her. I do appreciate that Leah is trying to improve, but we will see where that goes. I have little faith... I think Cole and Chelsea are great...they are a simple couple that enjoy being together. Works for me!

I think it was fairly obvious at the end that she was forced to choose Chad. Just the way she said it spoke volumes, and she seems very distant from him in many of their interactions...he becomes weirder and weirder at each conversation. Though I can see why people like that he was "honest", he was really quite the jerk in an obvious way so I just don't think honesty matters much at that point. He could hardly even be warm to Jojo, and she would have to see that is not exactly the kind of person you have a relationship with.

I just find every interaction with Janelle and Dave (is that his name?) just disgusting. He is so weird, and I hate how he is just like every other deadbeat boyfriend that says, "you should get custody of Jace!", and they say it like it should really happen and would be the best for him. It grosses me out watching him for some reason. I do agree Barbara shouldn't question so much, but I do think she is trying to gently find out what is going on for his own good. And yes, I expected to see comments on the frosting here! Too funny!

I like Wanya, but I think he lost his way even before last week.... for me he didn't seem to be improving or showing much change. He was good from the start, but there was room to improve. So I think last week, some of the public just kind of forgot about him a bit because he didn't really come out at his best (even if you factor out the prop issue). As for this week, I didn't really think his trio dance was all that, but apparently the judges loved it. I do think he did well in his second dance. I thought Paige rocked it this week. I loved both of hers.... and that AT was hot, and I would not normally associate Mark's routines with hot. lol I don't really care for Ginger, so not thrilled she went through. And Nyle I am hot and cold with him.

That's fine you don't agree blackwing. I don't agree with you either. I think you gave examples that actually led to my feeling of not much movement. Even when a team made up some time while another team had an issue there was no remote chance of the order changing. I didn't feel that way just because the team I liked didn't win. Other legs of the race were much more interesting and competitive in my mind.

I am okay with the ending but I really wanted Tyler and Korey to win. As said above I didn't like that there was no room for movement in the order of the teams. It feels like an easy win for the team who starts out in first after the first task.

I have liked Tyler and Korey all season. I like that they have fun throughout the race and make the most of it.

It seems like they have been in Europe forever by her instragram/twitter. I can see taking a trip to Europe but staying there that long is not cheap, esp with so many kids with you. I don't get her either... I think it really gets to how clueless she is. I think she truly is having money issues, that she sometimes admits to and other times denies, but then she goes on to do things that are extravagant.

Thanks, I had no idea. Too funny.

Who is Kyle (referenced further above about FTC)? I keep seeing that in these threads and need to finally ask.

I found this episode to be very funny. I laughed out loud several times. I loved how Beverly pulled out her years of coupons and the horrified reactions of Erica and Barry--as well as when they had to do the things on the coupons. I love Gramps interactions with Adam....he was funny in that costume with the martini. I also thought it was sweet how he understands everyone's situation, such as what Adam's father went through growing up, etc. Sweet ending to the episode as usual.

I was wondering that also, about the father not knowing since it was clear he had already met the cousin. How could he not know that the rest didn't survive...it just seems like something he should know.

I am sure it was editing and timing but the one disappointing aspect of Lea's story for me was how she just heard about all of her relatives dying in the Holocaust except for one, and then goes to her dad and says how excited she is. I know that she was going back to the other things she had learned, but it just sounded awful on TV to have it happen like that. They really needed to insert her comments about that right away versus waiting until the very, very end of the episode as it looked like she was insensitive to it. I felt more horrified by her news than she did...how sad. Otherwise, I loved her episode.

Molly's episode was interesting. Her reactions were subdued, and at first I wasn't sure what to think, but my feeling is that she was just taking it all in and then decided that she just felt very upset for what her ancestors had to endure. She seemed relieved to learn about the one that moved to Nebraska. I liked that this was kind of a simple episode with ancestors that were fairly normal to the times--people looking for a better life in America.

I am not sure I would have liked that combination of ice water and pushups. Wow, that was rough.

I think this episode was more on track, but for me it is too little, too late. They diverted from this kind of episode for too long, that I no longer find these types of episodes as good as I would have before.

I just don't understand why they have Keo around most seasons. Other pros only get a chance once in a while and yet they won't give up on Keo, but he hasn't shown anything that makes most viewers feel he needs to be there. He rarely has good connection with his star, and he hasn't really shined at choreography. I think he just hampers whoever is chosen to dance with him. So, I didn't really mind the criticism last night--if he didn't do a VW, then I am fine with that being an issue with some of the judges.

I found Katey's reactions to be completely genuine. I felt like she loved hearing about any family member she could because she didn't realize she would find something that went as far back as it did. Plus to find out that she descended from something unexpected--the Amish--seemed to be something she really identified with. I understand why they make connections to their ancestors because I do think there are bits and pieces that are connected through family, even if it is farther back than our immediate families. I think in her case she did seem to be pretty much in the the "peace" mode about a lot of things and was very clear about that--so of course she is going to find it interesting that her ancestors felt so strongly about the same. Overall a good episode in that she was clearly grateful for the news, and found some good information. She will be able to find out a lot more with that family tree and knowing more names.

I agree with this, Though the others are right that it finally moved away from some of the annoying storylines of late, it doesn't matter to most viewers now--it is too little too late for many. Though the episode annoyed me less, I didn't find it to be all that interesting either.