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still on page 3 but I haven't seen anything about how Kaitlin says she regrets nothing then at other times says sleeping with Nick was a mistake. She contradicts herself. I thought I would dislike all these fame whores but I actually am disliking Nick less than I did (still dislike Kaitlin and Shawn). cyber-bullying? LOL, I guess Shawn is fine with real life bullies (him and Kaitlin) but god forbid someone has an opinion (tells it like it is) online. GTFO you stupid fool.

I know 15 people move on but I would have liked more finishers. I think the weather played a crucial role in many of the obstacles. Are there more sob stories this year then in the past? I would prefer less or shorter background stories. Why don't they make the show have more parts or less sob stories so we can see the "while you were away" (lol, like it is live….so annoying) runs.

I was bored for most of it. The psychic reading was such bullshit! I found the Dorinda/Carole scene interesting (Dorinda and her London history and Carole's sad past). I liked them talking and relating to each other.

ok, sounds like the nut job is a mother. Well everyone dies so her mean tweet is ridiculous. Calling someone a "whore" is so misogynistic that I find it annoying that people who are unhappy with Kaitlin's actions as The Bachelorette are attributed to them being "slut-shaming misogynists". I can see disliking Kaitlin for how she treats people and I would feel that same if a male treated people the same as she does. Not all Kaitlin dislikers are sexist and/or prudish. I just happen to think people shouldn't treat other people like shit due to their own selfish wants…should try to not lie and should try not be hypocrites….be respectful of other people's feeling. No, don't be a doormat but find some middle ground. Don't claim someone is "the one" then hurt him (or her) by having sex with someone else. Don't claim your husband is in the room then claim you want to explore another option…In other words think before you speak and think of others in addition to yourself and not just yourself. Whores are honest about what they do so it's kind of an insult to whores to call Kaitlin a whore;-) Kaitlin is not a whore. She is many things but I would not say "whore"…just selfish and uncaring imo.

She said something about Shawn valuing honesty which implies the others didn't value honesty. Horrible answer imo

I don't recall any death threats but I was probably to caught up in my anger about this preempted strike against Kaitlin backlash that I didn't listen closely enough. Was there a death threat? That should go to the cops. How did Kaitlin know that one of the tweets/emails was written by a mother? What? Was it someone she knew? Again, the show didn't mind bullying Juan Pablo for not towing the company line. They seemed ok with his sleaze until he refused to answer CH about if he said he loved Nikki. I'm not a fan of Juan Pablo but good on him for telling the show to metaphorically fuck off. At least he didn't sell his "soul" to bachelor nation and seemed fine with coming out looking like a jerk (kudos to that guy…still not a fan but I'm glad he did that to the show but I hope it didn't upset Nikki). He stopped playing the game:) Guys or gals having sex isn't the issue I have. It is all the other behavior that stemmed from it. Also it doesn't matter if it was a woman or man who did the sleeping around but how it was handled….try not to hurt others. Ben H seems nice but he is very vanilla. What is Arie up to these days and is he coupled up? JJ seems to have lost his job…his title had "former….." (can't remember the actual job). This is weird but I'm more interested in finding out if JJ and Clint are friends again more then I am interested in who Kaitlin choses. I don't think jj and clint are guy and I think they hit it off as friends. I think JJ genuinely felt bad about throwing clint under the bus. I know the show edited them to look gay and maybe they were playing it up for airtime. Yeah they were obnoxious but I found them to be funny--funnier than Kaitlin. I think Kaitlin needs to wait before settling down. She can't be the poster child for anti-cyberbullying since she is a bully--at least she still was on TMTA. She wasn't "telling it like it is" because she made "jokes" to embarrass people and deflect. Trying to embarrass/hurt someone doesn't seem to fit with an anti-cyberbully campaign. Jared is still in love with kaitlin so I guess he didn't have a good BIP experience. He seems like a nice guy. I was so looking forward to TMTA and am so pissed that it was just propaganda I am posting more than usual. They ruined the episode that is usually the highlight of every season for me.

She could have said "Based on my relationship with Shawn I felt like I needed to tell him" or "Yeah, this format is challenging and I can relate some of you being upset. That was not my intent and sometimes there isn't a good answer" or something like that. I thought for two seconds and came up with that…she had months to think of something but she doesn't care--but we know that, which is why the show scrambled for Nick to get on the show imo. Her keeping guys around who were falling for her seems kind of heartless and better to let them go early if she already made up her mind. I wish JJ and Clint had stayed around longer so they could do their own thing since Kaitlin already had made a choice before really getting to know everyone. Shawn and Kaitlin seem more about passion than genuine love but I hope they prove me wrong. I don't like how she hurt some of the guys or didn't give them a chance and then lied (like, "I see my husband in this room"). I know some of it is just "script" but then it seems so disingenuous and …. I probably shouldn't be watching this show….lol. Maybe they were all losers/gross and she was bright to not to waste her time getting to know most of them…. I use to like Ben H more until I realized he drank the bachelor nation koolaide and sold his soul to be The Bachelor (I'm just guessing he is). He probably would have defended Kaitlin even if he wasn't going to be TB but since I think he knows he is going to be TB then it seems like towing the company line (protect Kaitlin). I don't get the fuss about Ben Z (dead mom). He seems nice but I don't get why the audience was orgasmic over him.

This is the first "tell all" episode that I did not enjoy. The OTT preempted strike against any Kaitlin backlash from the guys was so obvious and manipulative. Then the hypocrisy of the gay jokes was offensive and I don't get easily offended. The fact that the real questions weren't answered pissed me off. Why did she only tell Sean about Nick and imply the others don't value honesty? Why did she LIE about her prior relationship with Nick ("downplayed" my ass…she flat out lied and then exposed herself….idiot. Wait, is that cyber-bullying? So what are appropriate words? If calling her an idiot is cyber-bullying then what do you call her behavior of either making offensive gay references or out-ting someone(s)--people have killed themselves after being out-ed (I assume they have). What about her deflecting genuine questions with a "you voted for brit"….yeah, well Jared also voted for Brit so what the hell are you saying Kaitlin. What about Amy Schluer (sp?) and her treatment of JJ? It was hilarious but it was mean…was it bullying. Were the audience bullies? Whatever…. I can't believe I dislike Kaitlin even more than before. I don't care if she has sex with multiple guys. It's all the other behavior and comments that cause me to dislike her. I don't hate her but I dislike her. I thought Ian's OTT fake apology was perfect for this fake show. I'm more team JJ/Clint (except when he/they are defending Kaitlin) than I am Team Kaitlin. Or I am Team douche Ian more than I am Team Kaitlin. So I can't snark Kaitlin's appearance or I am a cyber bully? No more snark? Yet Kaitlin can make snarky gay comments and the show can snark itself and its immature idiot bachelorette who didn't even get to know more than a handful of guys.

This is likely all just bullshit but on this year's Big Brother viewers are saying Vanessa is getting too much of her Adderall (Ritalin) but I suspect she is slightly manic due to the environment. I do believe posters who say they know former contestants who claim their meds were messed with. Maybe it is the contestant blaming their behavior on something else…who knows but I wouldn't be surprised if a show assistant gave an extra stimulant here and there. I doubt it is officially sanctioned and the show itself would want plausible deniability however put pressure on the employees and who knows what they could do…I'm just speculating and have no inside knowledge.

Amish. Interesting. I did not think of that option but it makes a lot of sense. I hope he didn't get fired from his job since he went to one location and didn't get placed as a walk on so he then came to this one and waited 10 days as a walk on….that is a lot of time off from work. I thought the 56 year old made it based on him going "far enough fast enough". The single dad said his ex-wife left or went away because she had "mental health problems". I remember she was referred to as an "ex" because I thought it could be a bad "edit" since it sounded like he divorced someone who was ill (mentally ill but that is still ill…whatever but it stuck in my head). I thought he was annoying but handsome. Overall I got a bad impression of him and I usually root for the older people. Under his name it said Meteorologist but, good question, that is just his training/degree. It did not say if he was still working as a weatherman. Does anyone know if he is?

on whatever season of The Ultimate Fighter Felice Herrig was on, she was part of the "mean" girl pack that tried to bully/ostracize some of the other female fighters. Maybe it was just the environment that got to her but I am not a fan. She is not one of the top 10 female fighters but I understand the boasting which seems common with some. I was not sad to see her go out on the quintuple steps like she did. The host should have worn the green wigs for the entire episode!

I've heard rumors that Big Brother has messed with people's medications…..house guests have claimed their meds were messed with

I don't remember if someone mentioned/answered this but was Kristen really going to make her nanny or housekeeper do all the bedazzling? I'm not of fan of Kristen and I hope she isn't on next season.

I hope Heather checked the guy's pulse before leaving the room. I guess his rolling over was proof he wasn't dead. I can see being upset that there is an unexpected person in the dwelling but a passed out naked guy wouldn't scare me unless I got myself worked up about what could have happened. That could have been addressed in a more calm manner. Everyone could have done something different so that this debacle didn't happen but then the show wouldn't be so entertaining (yes, I have plebeian tastes most of the time)

I'm still 1/2 ways through the posts but it sounds like the following could have happened (tongue in cheek): Heather woke up naked after sleeping with Carol, then burst in on Ramona's guest who was sleeping as innocently as a baby (naked). She then whips Carol into a frenzy and they blitz Dorinda who is unaware of what the ruckus is about. They stormed into Ramona's room and demand to know why there is someone sleeping in the room formerly occupied by Bethanny. Ramona does the usual and then Luanne's door gets broken down. The slut shaming of Luanne begins and she is all proud of her sexual prowesses (but she only talked to a guy). Kristen vomits up something about the guy being married (it would require more intelligence than she possesses for it to be genuine 'throwing under the bus') LOL….I know that isn't what happened Isn't Carol the one who took some ecstasy (jelly bean or something) and got all high and threw up on her mid-life crisis sex toy? Heather was totally cool about that….

They should have killed the caiman right away. It seemed inhumane to tie it up and carry it from its legs on a pole. Maybe they didn't have a knife….then they sit around and debate it while it the poor thing this all tied up panicking . I hope they killed it right away and then staged the debate. One of the camera hotties (not Benji) seemed a little too happy while killing it…creepy but he still looked good (not as good as Benji). I can't believe they fed dickhead Jim and thug Dakota (stealing firewood and acting self righteous about it)--what a prick! I can totally imagine him partying at college….dickhead…the two dickheads hang together and were lucky the others "carried" them (fed and watered them) They camera men and doc were the best. Doc is a hottie who also seems like a good guy. edit: it does seem like the show ended early and what about after the island when they have to eat small portions of bland food and they meet up with the injured castmates? The UK show included that stuff.

there's no prize at the end except the prize of accomplishing their goal (whatever their personal goal is)

I wonder if the network has a twitter handle for him or if it has a comments section--you could put a link in there. I bet he would read that

I haven't finished reading the comments (I'm near the top of page 3) so I apologize if this all has already been said: Benji is mine! j/k, lol Ernest is a quitter and teaching his kids (when they watch this) that it is ok to quit and just bring up painful shit from your past and it will be ok. Hey kid, why not use your dad abandoning you for 2 weeks when you were 3 or 5 or 9 years old. Very sad about the funeral but I call bullshit on his reasons for leaving. His family (not wife and kids) and friends SUCK and he needs to cut all ties since they didn't go to the baby funeral (unless they were hospitalized or had a valid reason). That is heartbreaking…seriously heartbreaking but he still is a quitter. I do hope that it wasn't just an excuse and that he really applies this sudden insight but it will likely be like defensive driving where you pay attention for a few weeks then fall back into bad habits (or is that just me) I like Doc but he should of told Trey (sp?) to walk around. Lying down and not moving will NOT get the gut stimulated and can worsen constipation. Bark? Did he say there was bark in his feces? WTF was he doing eating bark? It sounds like he became obstructed and needed manual disimpaction. I wonder he his anus tore by straining or during disimpaction (did he try using a stick to get it out and that is how the bark ended up in the poo?). Poor Doc, he is a surgeon and not an internist The pig was put there by producers (Bear). Slight spoilers from the UK version: UK women are tougher than USA men; 3 baby pig so tame the woman treat them like pets (bad idea) so obviously a plant from producers. No momma or papa pig much less a pack of pigs. Baby pigs are adorable. The UK version is harsher and shows some of the kills…seriously upsetting but they were humane as possible and showed how some of the women (especially one) was upset. One found a CAN OF BEANS! No joke and they ate it. Like anyone would eat a can of beans from the trash washed up in the ocean….I can't remember if the can was dented (botulism) because I wondered how they opened the can (can opener). It would have been funny if it wasn't a pull top can and they couldn't open it. It was a total plant by production. One found a soda in the trash (I think Dr. Pepper or Orange Crush) and drank it. The UK version had some follow up at the end of the last episode. One guy who was injured was there. I think they do follow ups of injuries.

I'm not a fan of this modified rolling log as it seems too dangerous--heads bouncing around and banging platforms & head gash on the roll with blood all over. I did like the reference to Queen with the lyrics "he's got blood on his face…" but the "ride em like a cowboy" comment was total cringe. Tall paper mill guy from Maine was fun and impressive. Flip still seemed cocky with the "look at me, I'm not wearing a mask anymore" and making a big production about putting it on then taking it off….I get it, you want us to think you are humble. I agree with the comment about him trying for image rehab but it didn't work for me especially with his "6 buttons" comment. I liked the beautiful Russian "nerd" and hope she made it far enough fast enough. Are people really allowed to climb on the wall in front of (or near) the Eiffel Tower? It looked cool I like Travis--one of the veterans that is consistent and doesn't seem obnoxious

Thanks Unclejosh--I was trying to remember where I had seen the one smuggler--Spartacus I had been missing Strike Back and can't wait until the next episode

I'm not sure where to put this post. I like the "Wolf Pack" but it annoys me that Noah Kauffman wears his stethoscope around his neck while hanging out with everyone before and after his run. I don't think of it as a marketing ploy to attract business but more like he is wanting everyone to know he is a physician. I'm proud of my career but I would never "show off" like Noah. I do like him as a competitor on ANW despite all this.

I'm not caught up on all the posts but in case someone hasn't mentioned it, it was a firefly, not a moth or dragonfly

Next season's cast have it made. You know the show will do anything to have couples stay together. I wonder how much $ they will use to bribe them to stay together if things start looking dicey

All we have to go on is Jessica's words which the media has run with and has dragged Ryan's name threw the dirt. People see stuff written in articles and assume it to be true even though it is just rumor or something one person claims (could be total bullshit). Ryan has already been judged and found guilty by the press (and social media, etc…) of threatening to kill her, abusing her, theft, gambling, drug abuse, drug dealing, etc. He may have been a jerk at times on the show but I didn't see anything horrible (people say shit when arguing). I found her more disturbing on the show (she constantly threw him under the bus) since she came across as manipulative and fake (playing meek and setting up situations to make him look bad--he didn't need her help with that). I may be completely wrong but that was my take on the show. My take on what happened after decision day is Ryan is getting screwed over by Jessica and I want proof of what she is accusing him of before I believe her. I don't know why, but the more "poor Jessica" posts I read, the more I like Ryan and dislike Jessica. Sure production offering security kept you from filing a order of protection or police report…until inside info leaked (did she leak it) and suddenly it wasn't good enough for you--people have attempted to explain her timeline but why did she change her mind…whatever…it's all just speculation until facts are presented but as it stands now, I feel sorry for Ryan. I think Jason (last season) tweeted support then got smacked by fans so he is quiet now.