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All those article say Ryan D ALLEGEDLY made death threats. I'm sure if any cast said they felt in fear of their life from the un-vetted guys, would be given security from the show. Same as if they said they got death threats from fans. Why didn't she file a police report--don't say security from production was the reason because did she expect them to be with her all her life? or did he put a deadline on his threat and after that time then all is forgiven. She is a media-whore. She also knew that the 100$ was a HOT BUTTON for Ryan so she brought that up to push his buttons in hopes of him exploding on tv. Bitch, please! I need real evidence and not some OTT remark made in the heat of the movement (if a remark was even made---just her word so far and I don't believe her just like I don't believe her when when she claimed Ryan said she looked trashy (I think he said, piercings look trashy but you look good) or that whole closet situation (there were TWO closets and she already had one but wanted more). where's the proof he is a coke head and a drug dealer? yet so many are ready to burn him at the stake. Ryan is dumb and Jessica totally played him and is trying to get her goal of FAME. What was that goal she had on some article done long before the show aired? Something about everyone knowing her name within X amount of time. I know I am in the minority about disliking Jessica more than Ryan D. I just wish people wouldn't assume everything she says is the truth and persecute a guy, who may have acted like a jerk at times, just based on what she says. Please wait for objective facts. Also remember the show is highly edited and any of the cast can be shown as more good or more bad then they really are IRL. Also, no person is 100% good/perfect or 100% bad/evil….well at least most people aren't. Also Jessica's cat liked RyanD and he didn't abandon it for 5 days to starve. Interesting that this was the only couple that actually lived together during the experiment.

All those article say Ryan D ALLEGEDLY made death threats. I'm sure if any cast said they felt in fear of their life from the un-vetted guys, would be given security from the show. Same as if they said they got death threats from fans. Why didn't she file a police report--don't say security from production was the reason because did she expect them to be with her all her life? or did he put a deadline on his threat and after that time then all is forgiven. She is a media-whore. She also knew that the 100$ was a HOT BUTTON for Ryan so she brought that up to push his buttons in hopes of him exploding on tv. Bitch, please! I need real evidence and not some OTT remark made in the heat of the movement (if a remark was even made---just her word so far and I don't believe her just like I don't believe her when when she claimed Ryan said she looked trashy (I think he said, piercings look trashy but you look good) or that whole closet situation (there were TWO closets and she already had one but wanted more). where's the proof he is a coke head and a drug dealer? yet so many are ready to burn him at the stake. Ryan is dumb and Jessica totally played him and is trying to get her goal of FAME. What was that goal she had on some article done long before the show aired? Something about everyone knowing her name within X amount of time. I know I am in the minority about disliking Jessica more than Ryan D. I just wish people wouldn't assume everything she says is the truth and persecute a guy, who may have acted like a jerk at times, just based on what she says. Please wait for objective facts. Also remember the show is highly edited and any of the cast can be shown as more good or more bad then they really are IRL. Also, no person is 100% good/perfect or 100% bad/evil….well at least most people aren't. Also Jessica's cat liked RyanD and he didn't abandon it for 5 days to starve. Interesting that this was the only couple that actually lived together during the experiment.

If you haven't seen the show Unreal then please check it out. I think Ryan D has issues but not as bad as what people are making him out to be. I think he did some stupid stuff (knock over the swan napkins, etc) and wa la, we have our villain. I don't think he is perfect and not completely innocent but I think Jessica is playing him in a passive aggressive manipulative manner. I didn't hear any death threats and how did she hear them if he was in the bathroom. If he did say them but I suspect it was hyperbolic talk when angry (stupid but not surprising). The experts were so sure she was genuine, lol, like I trust their opinion. The editing worked against him and I wish they re-showed the closet argument where she wanted BOTH closets. Her 100$ act at the reunion was her true self. She wrote her journey from doormat to spokesperson. Well done Jessica, you fooled many people so maybe you will get some acting gigs. I may be totally wrong and this is just my perception of Jessica/Ryan. I just find it hard to believe that everyone believes her without any proof just because an edited show highlighted some bad behavior from Ryan but nothing horrifying. Ryan was alway nice when talking about Jessica in his ITM but she tended to throw him under the bus in her ITM. edit: typos

I got the same impression while watching this season and then finding out the timeline of this behind the scenes stuff that happened after the reunion (suspicious that she waited so long after the reunion to file the order of protection). I always felt she was gas lighting him and manipulating everything to look like the victim during the show. Maybe she was genuine but it came off as fake and manipulative imo.

He is getting so flack for supporting Ryan (basically calling Jessica a liar and how everyone is believing her and taking her word as "fact")

http://www.ibtimes.com/married-first-sight-2015-spoilers-which-wife-filed-order-protection-against-her-1965980 What do Jason & Courtney mean by "A lie gets halfway around the world b4 the truth has a chance to get its pants on @ryandenino #MarriedAtFirstSight pic.twitter.com/g670mrugFG — Jason Carrion (@Kr0ss) June 14, 2015"

Thank you for the timeline crazychicken! Do you know when the reunion was filmed in relation to the timeline of events you posted?

Jaimie's latest tweet: Jamie N. Otis 1h1 hour ago Jamie N. Otis ‏@jamienotis I strongly encourage abused to stay away & abuser to get help. Both need counseling, albeit for different reasons. #NoToleranceForViolence WTF? now Jamie is claiming Ryan was VIOLENT with Jessica? Violent means physical abuse right? Abuse can be emotional, psychological or physical but violence is always physical right? What does Jamie know about this situation with Jessica and Ryan? This pot does not need to be stirred.

What online threats did Ryan make? She created fake social media accounts and created memes of his being a drug addict (and/or abusive). He figured out what she did in less than 48 hours. I doubt it was a murder threat. Also why is he responsible for his friends behavior and how do you know he didn't try to shut it down. OR the same excuse you are using for Jessica (maybe he is getting back at her). I think they are both in the wrong. If he is using drugs then at least there is hope for him (he could get clean). If he isn't a drug user/dealer then it is really shitty of Jessica to try to destroy his reputation (which already isn't good) even more. Why is she ashamed of her sexuality? If he slut-shames her then she should laugh it off and say she was too much woman for a boy like him. If it was his friend only then just ignore.

What abuse happened? You mean the shouting arguments we saw on tv? Is that it? WTF? I'm confused about this abuse claim and order of protection (why does she need it and what threats were made?)

QUOTE FROM gimipizzauoldtroll This is libel as it is written and preserved. If it were spoken on camera/on radio, it would be libel for that reason as well. This is not a common law defamation case (where the statement is about a purely private matter) because it involves a public figure. You're right, if it were that kind of case, then the defendant would have to prove truthfulness. But because it involves a public figure, there are first amendment concerns and the plaintiff must prove (in addition to the common law elements) the falsity of the statement and fault on the part of the defendant. END QUOTE So if Ryan sues Jessica and shows that he has never been arrested for using or dealing drugs and shows proof that Jessica posted stuff saying he was a drug user/dealer then would that be enough? He could even take a drug screen test. I am not pro-Ryan but I also and not in favor of painting someone as a drug dealer/coke head if there is no proof other than hearsay. Also we don't know why his friend was in jail/prison and if he has paid his dues to society then why is his friend (Ryan) being judged for JoJo's behavior. It's not like he can control it and maybe he wasn't in favor of it. If Ryan said or wrote anything that slut-shamed Jessica then that was shitty of him and applies to himself as much as it applies to her since he also was involved in the sex.

Has she been fired from the show yet? That is the only thing I want to know about her

Was it Jessica who said or wrote that Ryan was a drug dealer and cocaine user? If she can't prove it then can he sue her for libel/slander? Not that she has any $. I'm just thinking that if it is not true then those claims can really hurt his future. I have no idea if Jessica created those fake Instagram accounts but I would not be surprised. If Ryan made the "48" comment as a subtle threat of harm then fuck him. If he isn't a drug dealer/user then I can understand his anger at her for saying he is a dealer/addict. His friend's behavior of slut-shaming is wrong. Did Ryan slut shame Jessica? Anyway, two wrongs don't make a right and multiple wrongs definitely don't make a right. Ryan needs help with anger management and anything more is just speculation imo.

I probably should be embarrassed to admit this but I like Heather, Vicki and Tamra. They all can be bitchy and rude/pretentious/crude yet entertaining with their drama. I wasn't a fan of bible thumping Alexis, forgettable Lizzie, or new age crying Shannon. Stoner Lynn was entertaining but I think the show hid the seedier side of her life (I think the show protected her and her kids just like the show hid a lot of Kim Richards problems/addictions). With this season having a smaller cast, it will be interesting to see if they can get along together and how they will pair up. This is horrible of me but I am team mean girls since I can't stand Shannon. It's weird that I think Shannon is nice person but I still don't like her. I guess her new age holistic crystal praying ass annoys me more than bitchiness and backstabbing (in a reality show only~in real life I would hang with the freak rather than a backstabbing bitch…actually I would choose to be by myself alone, lol). It's not just her new age holistic stuff or even just her crying but add in her hypocrisy of drinking alcohol yet has these insane dietary restrictions, staying with a cheater, her helplessness and poor lil' rich girl woe is me schtick, and slight doormat like tendencies. Even though I am not a fan of Shannon I do wish her a happy and healthy life and I hope she develops into a strong independent female (by independent I don't mean divorced but I mean emotionally independent…too much to go into here). Who knows, maybe I will grow to like her. I'll watch snooty Heather, obnoxious Tamra, and loud Vicki any day over sniveling Shannon.

I don't get what is going on in the real and fake instagram accounts

I don't get all the Shannon love. She annoyed me from the very beginning of her stint on this show. All her new age bullshit drives me batty. Her quacky "holistic" treatments are misleading and can be harmful (just look at the toxic shit Yolanda, rhwobh, puts into her body). Her constant crying (makes Kyle look stoic) and poor little rich girl helplessness irks me. I'll take a strong bitch any day over a pathetic weak ass cry baby. LOL, I always like the housewives that everyone hates (I always have liked Kyle, Bethanny, Kendra and I'm even entertained by Tamra when she is being bitchy)

Thanks for the linked article!It sounds like Unreality is fairly close to "reality". Sure, it is filmed long before it broadcasts but the rest of the show seems very on point. This has been quite a year for behind the scenes shenanigans on reality shows. Just look at this seasons Married At First Sight (everyone), The Bachelorette (Kaitlyn and Nick), and The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (Kim Richards). I think Unreality more "real" than the actual edited reality shows that we watch. The behind the scenes drama seems more interesting than the manufactured drama (I would love to see the footage, if any exists, of Kim Richards at the Polo Lounge)

All these spoilers are much more interesting than the actual show! Thanks everyone! This has been a pretty good (in a train wreck rubber necking way) season for interesting behind the scenes action for some reality shows: MAFS--all the info presented here in the spoilers The Bachelorette--very fake and trashy season with juicy spoilers in the show's spoiler forum here and at RealitySteve's site. The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills---Kim Richards arrest, rehab, wild antics in Mexico and California, her dog attacks, etc I love the new show Unreality. I wonder how much of these MAFS spoilers will be mentioned in the 2 part reunion--how much will the show reveal and how will it be edited. I look forward to the real scoops once friends and family (and hopefully participants) are able to talk/write publicly about all this. That twitter link goes to a page that says it doesn't exist anymore. Basement Ryan has always creeped me out. I find it hard to believe he had an ex-girlfriend, much less one who would sleep with him. I also didn't like how he kind of slut shamed Jac. He didn't really slut shame her but made it seem like she was a nymphomaniac (or he had a really low sex drive). I was always creeped out by him but started actively disliking him after he went cold on Jac after having sex with her. I wonder if his "ex-girlfriend" is pissed at him for that and if she really is an "ex-girlfriend". At least alleged coke head Ryan (angry-douche) can go to rehab and anger management, but I don't think much can be done for creepy slug Ryan (basement; waking up from anesthesia; I hate Indian food; pathetic-douche)

only on page 2 of the comments but didn't kristen's husband set up the nail polish line for her and it was his contact through work that is making the nail polish gig happen? agree with the others who say "pop of color" is an outdated and overused phrase Bethanny walking away from Kristen was the best moment of the episode and I literally laughed out loud. How can Kristen be both boring and annoying? Her unprofessionalism at the nail polish business meeting was not surprising and I can see why she and Brandi are such good friends. Hasn't Kristen seen the interactions of Bethanny with others? Pretty STUPID of Kristen to question Bethanny in such an aggressive manner. She should have directly gotten to the point and just asked her what was said. I still find Kristen to be pointless and I'm not impressed with her. I have to give her obnoxious husband some kudos since he is the one who put the nail polish business together for her. Hopefully she has good people around her to help her with the nail polish (her husband has his own job to do). She shouldn't expect advice from a colleague (Bethanny likes Sonja so she tries to help her). Kristen can come off as an entitled bitch.

Every season of The Island (prior seasons were UK versions) all had nets. If one momma pig and some piglets show up then those were set up by Bear. LOL @ #ByeDavion hashtag. Was he the one in flip flops? Even though he annoyed me with his bs about Mike's dignity, I don't want him hurt and it sucks the guys lost another person. Benji is the beautiful blue eyes, right? He was hot prior to saving the turtle but that rescue made him even hotter! I also worried about it drowning and was wanting them to stop holding it underwater…but I don't know how long they can hold their breath or anything about there respiratory system. I think they should check the nets more often since you don't want fish dying and rotting in the net….that is, once they find a decent place to put the net and angle it correctly (I don't know how to net fish, lol). What is this Surviorman that is mentioned? off to google it;-)

Did I miss something? I heard Kaitlin say she had formed some special connections with some of the guys…WHO? I remember her one on one with Clint--he is gone. She thought of Nick during her date with Jared. One guy did the haunted house and told her about his mother's death---is that all it takes to make a special connection? I don't remember any "connections" and I don't count kissing someone as a "connection", at least not in a meaningful manner when you haven't spent more than few minutes actually talking to the guy. I think some guy kissed her on the roof or something and then did a deep dip with her or twirled her…something. That excited her otherwise there interaction seemed blah. The Aladdin play didn't seem conducive to making a meaningful relationship and they appeared to just chat about what was going on. Did I miss something else---that competition for the play….they just were on stage for less than a minute. Was that it or did they edit out their lines/song/dance? It seemed really lame. Ian got hosed.

Dark stuff--love it!

"I have the hottest girlfriends" Seriously? LOL

I think this is the thread for all seasons. There are 2 UK seasons (1st: just guys; 2nd: one island with guys and another island with women) and 1 USA season on NBC. I think episode 3 of the 1st season of the USA version of The Island is on tonight. I think a thread for each season would be helpful but I'm just happy the show itself has a forum. Was Bear the one who was a fraud? I think so. I know reality shows aren't "reality" but he could have spun the hotel thing better if it was him. It was Ernest (something like that) who got fire 1st and NOT Mike. I think they are delirious and attributing stuff to Mike that he didn't do (glorifying him). I think Mike could have been great but he had to go and it is only like day 3 or 4. Heck, Taylor who they all hated did more--Taylor found the beach. Both Taylor and Mike got violent in their dehydration. Taylor swinging at Ernest (big black guy who has not identified himself as gay; former military I think) and Mike swinging a knife and putting it up to him own neck. BRAVO to the guys who tried to get it on film. Boo to firefighter for not wanting it filmed to spare Mike's dignity. Hello, Mike signed up for reality tv so Boo Hoo to his "dignity" and put that on the Editors and not the embedded film crew! I was liking Mike until firefighter guy went all "dignity" on everyone which then made me want Mike exposed. Whatever… Bye Mike.

Kyle, imo, is the heart and soul of the show. She better get a contract for this upcoming year and I'm sure she will. Yo, with her somatoform disorder, should stay away from the show. She gives people horrible ideas--like stem cell treatments for some undiagnosed "I'm tired disorder" (aka I'm scared my husband is going to leave me and I'm still trying to save my image from my bullying/racist-pro-bg anti-Joyce team supporting). I fully own my pro-Kyle anti-Yo bias. Yo "advertises" unsafe medical practices and some viewers think this is the way to go since it is done by a celebrity. Yo, go see a psychiatrist. You are making yourself sick by "alternative treatments" for a constellation of symptoms of unknown etiology (most likely psychiatric; unconscious motivation imo without reviewing her medical charts/tests/exam/etc..). I can't wait to see Kyle without Kim and hopefully without bg (the one housewife I really dislike…even Tamara from the OC is loved compared to bg).