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Exactly. Let people do what they want! You see groups split off on other housewives trips all the time. You are right, there must have been some logistics involved.

Well, you can call my well educated mind dumb, if you will! I think it’s smart to be particular with what you are eating. My husband gets sick almost every time we travel and I do not get sick. I would rather spend my time sight seeing than stuck in a bathroom. Everyone has a right to have their opinion without being labeled as “dismissive” and “dumb” IMO. Respect is a two way street. My husband will try anything, that is his prerogative. That’s what he likes to do, I don’t judge him. Being a part of another culture is not defined as only eating their street food. In fact, the CDC has recommendations for food and water safety, when traveling, aka common sense.

It makes me crazy! I’ll eat what I’ll eat and not judge you and I expect the same courtesy in return. I agree, people also get weird when you don’t drink alcohol. I don’t care what your drinking, but my liver does not fancy alcohol!! Live and let live. I guess there would no drama/show if that was the case.😚 That’s funny about the size differential on the McDs food and the tshirt. Like the ladies in Texas, the USA likes everything big. We definitely have a vanity size system for our clothes.

On your business trip, that was really sweet of them! Yowza, I wouldn’t eat McD’s though either! How in the world do you get out of that situation without offending their kind gesture?! 😳 No thank you doesn’t always work. For instance Kary was annoyed that all the other ladies didn’t want to eat from the vendor. Enjoy it yourself and shut up. Then there are the vegan vs meat eaters that can’t leave each other alone. My biggest challenge is my family questioning why, oh why don’t I eat this or that, like not eating every type of dessert is an offensive act! My Aunts get particularly offended. I will never understand why people care what other people eat/don’t eat. I won’t judge anyone else for what they eat. Why does anyone worry themselves about things like that?

I didn’t watch that show. Was that an ongoing side thing or was there a specific episode? I didn’t watch much tv, was knee deep in kid land at the time! I love Kristin Davis though!

I hear you...but I won’t eat street food anywhere. I live in Manhattan and have never eaten at a hot dog cart or a street fair. When I travel, I’m picky about where I’ll eat, but I will eat overseas. I’m very protective of my colon and TMI 😲don’t want any issues taking me away from the museums/locales. 😎 My husband travels frequently for work, Asia, India, etc and takes pills/shots before he travels (for particular countries) drinks only bottled water and still gets sick. Remember RHONY, was it Columbia? That was not fun to watch. There’s nothing wrong with being cautious and particular with food you are putting in your body.

Agreed. It’s wrong. I just think she was angry and making fun of Kary and using Kary’s own words on her. Leeanne was wrong, no doubt about it. She needs to apologize, perhaps Issue a public statement. It will most certainly come up at the reunion and we will see how she addresses the topic. I am just hesitant to use strong language and labels because, as you said, we don’t know her intent. That doesn’t make her words okay. I am hesitant to label someone without understanding the whole context as well. Leeanne really is like a stray animal. Asking to go to a restaurant where they speak English isn’t prejudice, it’s looking for convenience for yourself. Not wanting to eat street food is not prejudice. Leeanne is ignorant, that’s for sure.

No one is excusing Leeanne’s behavior. I also think this is a sensitive subject. I am guessing that Leeanne is going after the “going Mexican” and such because those are words Kary uses, according to Leeanne. I did see Kary tell one of Leeanne’s gay friends off on Twitter and saying she would “go Mexican” on that person. Does her attack make Kary homophobic?? I can’t judge because we aren’t necessarily privy to all that was said behind the scenes. It felt to me that it was a similar thing to the Italian ladies on NJ. Especially Teresa, always saying she’s going to “go Italian” on others. What does that even mean? Now that Joe is living there, is he handling all that Italian well?? I’m 50% Italian and hang out with my Italian side of the family. The only thing we mention is visiting relatives in the old country and eating good Italian foods. It’s not the center of our conversations like it is on RHONJ. So, what in heck does “go Italian” even mean?? What does “going Mexican” mean?? So, Im giving Leeanne some slack because it sounds like Kary uses Teresa “isms” about her ethnicity as well, because she’s Mexican. I’m not sure I would go that far to call Leeanne a xenophobe. Leeanne is messed up. Poking it at her relentlessly is akin to asking for a mangy, stray dog to not snarl at you when you tease it with food.

Kary is a total bitch, and she has been needling Leeanne from day one. She came on the show with the idea in mind that she needed to go after Leeanne to create her story and bring the drama. It’s pretty obvious that was her plan. Leeanne has severe anger issues. However, if you purposely rattle the lions cage, don’t be surprised when she reacts in an over the top way. Leeanne, Like Kelly Dodd, pushes buttons and crosses boundaries. I do think Leeanne in this case, was not the instigator and Kary was picking at her and was hoping for a reaction. No, D’Andrea, this was not a funny joke. The two of them were trying to ridicule the dress and humiliate Leeanne. Kary is very difficult to like. She treats her husband like a bank account, and when she realizes it’s not an endless financial free for all, she resents him. He’s not responsible for her kids from a previous marriage besides them living in their shared home. What’s the deal with Kary’s ex, is he broke? Her comments on how hard marriage is? I don’t think she would have married Eduardo if he was an everyday Joe.

On the Bravo app, they have lots of clips from BravoCon. The funniest clip to me was Ramona vs Vicki G. Vicki was feeling that Ramona was dissing OC by saying that RHONY “put the housewives on the map!” Vicki was mad at Ramona for saying that because the OC was the original show and, of course, she’s the OG of all OGs. All Ramona was saying was that they were filming as Manhattan Wives (their original Bravo name) and it was renamed RHONY and that it’s popularity is what drew attention to the Bravo housewives shows. Ramona said it was a producer or some Bravo exec that said NY “put the housewives on the map” and she was just repeating it. That was her opinion and Vicki wasn’t having it! While Ramona is cray cray and walks around with her foot in her mouth, I just thought it was hilarious that Vicki was so upset about Ramona’s claim. She really thinks she’s the Queen of Bravo in spite of the fact that she was demoted to a friend this season. Every interview she’s been in this year, Vicki voices her exasperation over the fact that she’s not a full time housewife. I actually don’t care whether she’s on the show or not, (don’t think she’s a big factor anymore) but I’m amazed by the self importance that she displays time and time again.

I had thought about going but didn’t try very hard. Then I heard scalpers bought up a lot of the BravoCon tickets. If they do it again, I will go...sounds like you think it was worth it?? Right now our home base is Manhattan so it would have been really easy for me to go. I’m now regretting that decision! Did you meet anyone? What activities did you go to? Were you there all 3 days? It did look like Shannon was not comfortable sitting next to Kelly on the couch! What did you see/know from the weekend?!!

Rick is a veteran (decades long) war correspondent...but if he marries Kelly he will experience stress and warfare on a whole new level. Kelly is her own worst enemy. If she could control her anger, she would have richer relationships. She seems to have a heart, but lashes out like a wild animal towards those that just want what’s best for Kelly. She needs to understand that there is a line, and crossing it is not okay. I like Kelly best when she lets her guard down, like the scenes with Jolie. She does show a kind heart, but there’s a hurt Kelly inside that appears as rage when something sets her off. The problem is, she’s the type that gets upset when you don’t expect it. I hope she can temper her anger and learn to control her impulses. I do feel for her at times. Best wishes to her and congrats on the engagement.

Someone said on a gossip mag site that Jim Edmonds has moved into the new house, and filmed the moving van arriving, as well as his kids playing in the house, navigating around the moving boxes. (It was on his Instagram page, I saw it). Hmmm... They designed and planned a mansion, that we have seen Meghan showing off for months on social media, and he happens to file for divorce just a week before moving in without Meghan. He was definitely planning well ahead of time and caught Meghan by surprise with everything. He wants to make sure she has no claim on the new house she just designed. Then, he tries to create a case against her, by calling the police, speaking out about her narcissism and parenting skills. He didn’t seem to want those kids he had before Meghan was even in the picture. Gawd, what a douchebag.

True,,,,however...we know Shannon just wasn’t really his type because she would never pose for such a risqué photograph, let alone post it on social media. We know Shannon likes Bret Michaels/80s rock, and her dark nail polish, college football, but that was the Shannon Storms that David thought he married. Well, she also grew up a country club girl, with a reserved personality, that became more and more rated G when they aged and had children. David didn’t want to be domesticated. David doesn’t want to grow up, or accept living with a mature wife. Tale as old as time. I thought it was the nagging, exhaustion of dealing with neurotic Shannon, but now I’m convinced he is smack dab in a mid-life crisis. Ewww. David and the new side piece deserve each other.

Ugh...can’t unsee it!! David Beador and his new love, Lesley, posed naked while on vacation in Italy on their social media. Can’t recall where I read the story, but Tamra Judge commented on the subject on her Instagram today. You see the hot and heavy couple in their birthday suits embracing each other naked. She has her pants or some article of clothing pushed down at her ankles. The worst part was it’s obvious David has been living in bike tights, from his suntan lines and his slimey long hair. Does he not realize he has teenage daughters that can see his/her posts?! I hope he is still not coaching young ladies in a basketball league.😖🤮

Spot on...you are on to something. Now we find out BW has recently admitted she had an affair a few years ago, her husband changed careers because he used to work too much. So, now they occasionally bring in a side chick for special occasions. Is this because she had an affair and all’s fair in love and war? Now they are even? They are fake, the move is fake and the mother is crazy fake. BW dresses like Carlton sometimes. They seem so odd. I can’t imagine they would fit in with most families in the more conservative part of CA. Where’s Ace detective Meghan King Edmonds when you need her?!!

Okay...the schools topic. My background is in education, as a teacher in public schools and involvement in expanding educational choices of schools in my home state. Keep in mind, every state has different rules. One state might not allow charter schools, some states have different rules for charters and some charters are funded differently...and that can also vary in the same state. For the most part, charters are a spin off from the demand for better options to local public schools which were not meeting the needs of the community they serve. When vouchers were authorized in some states, charters became popular with those who did not have a nearby Catholic school or didn’t have enough money to bridge the gap at a private school. I think the confusion is that it depends on your state, your communities and the various options. I lived in a state, where I went to public school, that has fantastic public schools, magnet schools, Catholic schools and some top notch private/prep schools. I’ve lived in several states (all East coast) and we raised our kids in my hometown after moving back for that very reason. A safe community with a fantastic public school. The problem? After decades of spending more money per pupil than other countries, too many of our public schools are failing our kids. Charter schools, vouchers, hybrid schools have cropped up by parent demand. Not everyone can afford private schools. (the ones near my family were on par with college price tags) Not everyone can afford Catholic schools or the charter schools where you pay a portion of the tuition (sliding scale, scholarships, hybrid) or lets not forget the cost or ability to transport children to those schools. I am not familiar with CA schools, but it sounds like a charter where a percentage of parents are on the board and most likely they are hybrid, where the tuition is partially publicly funded and fundraising is utilized to raise the gap. There are also franchise type charter schools. The reputation varies, some have great reputations and others disappear when the demand is not there. An example would be KIPP public charter schools. I am not familiar with them, they seem to be located in various states, but not all states. The last state I lived in, for 8 years, (my kids were not involved, they were all in college at the time) there were several charter schools and they were extremely popular with parents. Most had a lottery system to gain acceptance. I’m not sure exactly how that worked, but in that state, if one child gets in, the younger siblings are guaranteed a spot in the future if they decide to go that route, so a family could keep their children in the same environment. My home state was one of the hold outs against charter schools and I was a parent/teacher that advocated for them at the state level. My children were fine where they were, but I was for choice for where you spend your education dollars. That state sanctioned charters about 10 years ago. Keep in mind, that only a portion of what your district pays per pupil is diverted to vouchers or charter schools. (If any of that money) Vouchers are especially popular in low income areas. In my opinion, blaming Betsy DeVos for the current state of education is not reasonable, she has been there 3 years. Most high risk districts have been failing for decades. Whether you agree/disagree with her ideas (I am not sure myself) she was very involved in education for years and has raised high amounts of money for schools. She was a parent activist, trying to improve schools. I’m not sure what the answers are, but when parents are given a choice and have some say in the matter that’s a great thing. Some school districts in urban areas struggle getting parents to conferences and involved in their children’s welfare beyond the home. After college, I worked with students in public schools, for two school calendar years, before I was a full time teacher, tutoring them during the day and acting somewhat as a social worker as well. This was in NY upstate. It was a pull out style augmentation of helping kids that are falling through the cracks. None of their parents were even interested in speaking with me or showed up to classroom conferences. Parents need to be involved, you can’t expect the “state” to do everything. Gina’s daughter will have an IEP likely when she begins public school, if she is still showing a need at that point. BW was trying to make that point but her approach was not very good. She was trying to be helpful and she was right but sounded kind of bitchy towards Gina.

Celebrities, in my opinion, tend to grow a higher standard when they have children. (I’m talking about the ones who seemed to never have any boundaries) You are right, you can see this happening with Cohen. I remember snickering, I believe when Madonna said (scoffed) she didn’t let her children watch television and limited music. They inflict their filth on the greater public, than bubble wrap and shelter their kids from the dirty, unwashed masses. On the one hand, I give them credit for rising up to the job of being a good parent. That’s better for our society. On the other hand, at the same time, I side eye them for making coin off their X rated influence on everyone else’s kids out there. My kids were pretty sheltered until college, (housewives and similar shows were only viewed when the kids were in bed) and I certainly don’t make a living off inflicting the public with filth on my end...I just feel their behavior is super hypocritical. Sure, influence culture, push boundaries, but not when it comes to your children. While Andy was very successful before, I agree, it’s the housewives viewers that were his original audience for WWHL and they made him a household name.

I agree with this assessment. Years ago, I started watching the OC, NY, then BHills. Loved them! I had a good friend, originally from NJ, well educated and wealthy, and she told me that NY was a snooze...that the fireworks were on RHNJ! She said NY was “boring” (her opinion, not mine) Knowing her, you would think she would prefer a more highbrow show, she’s a country club girl inside/out, but she loved the craziness of NJ. I think it’s fair to say that NJ, the table flip and the clown show it was/is, maybe because of the familial ties, seemed to put the Real housewives franchises on the map. I’m not saying that I understand that, as it was never my favorite, not even in my top 3, but it did put real housewives on the map IMO. Now, fast forward to present day, I don’t believe it’s as popular now as it used to be, but NJ and Atlanta, with their zaniness and over the top emotions, are what most people think of when they hear the phrase, Bravo’s real housewives. Not necessarily my cup of tea. I do think Margaret added a whole new dimension and it’s much better with her than with the clink clink twins and the other one, Amber, with the douche husband. Kathy’s husband Rich was gross too.

D’Andrea is a pretty woman, but on WWHL, yowza!😲 I’m not sure if the look she was going for was J.Lo, but she came off more like Priscilla Presley wearing one of Elvis’ costumes in 1972. Geez. She’s always too much with her make up and outfits. Funniest part of the night was Andy C introducing Jeremy, who was in the audience, by calling him Rich! Jeremy turned beet red. Too funny. Andy can really step in it sometimes. 😎

I wouldn’t believe a word out of Jim Edmonds mouth. Firstly, Jim is responsible for giving Jim a bad reputation, on/off Bravo. Knowing people in St Louis suburbs, he already had a reputation as a womanizer, and the sexting with the baseball groupie woman is just one example, during his 3rd marriage. Second, he came off as a jerk on the show, similar to David and Shane. He talked to Meghan like a dismissive @ss and displayed a smug attitude anytime he was on the screen. Third, he cheated on all his wives. That makes him a douche-canoe. She was dumb to marry him and to think it wouldn’t happen to her as well. I find it hard to believe the nanny is just a friend. Meghan was home when he took Carly to the game and certainly not happy about it. How did she go from loving the nanny to being upset if it was innocent and there was nothing going on? There were also several posts on Jim’s Instagram with him/her, for example, working out with Carly at the gym. How many men take their nannies, 30 years younger than themselves, to games and the gym? That seems a bit odd don’t you think?! On other Bravo FB pages, social media posts and magazines, several people who followed both Jim and Meghan took screenshots of said posts. I don’t follow either of them but many out there do and thus all this dirt has has been uncovered. It took me all of an hour to find this information. According to Heather Dubrow, who is friends with both wife #2 Allison and Meghan King Edmonds, she seemed to believe, at the time Meghan came on the show, that Allison had long been separated from Jim when Jim met Meghan. She was friends with both wives at the same time and gave us no indication that Meghan was at fault in the demise of the marriage between Jim and Allison. This is a bad situation for all parties involved, but the common denominator and guilty party is Jim.

Agreed! After suffering through the antics of Braunwynn, her tongue, her outfits, her oddball husband and her Betsy Johnson wannabe turned Chuckie doll of a mother, Meghan would be a huge upgrade. I can be hot/cold with Meghan but I don’t hesitate to predict we will never see her swapping spit with Tamrat. Okay, first and only time you will hear me say, Vicki was right. She was not very nice about it, but she and Kelly were right about what was going on with Meghan.

I don’t remember the details, as you can see I posted this comment in July of 2015. That was over 4 years ago and my memory is not the best!! The only thing I recall is she was active on social media, and that would be where my assessment of her behavior would have come from most likely. Again, at that point in time. I haven’t been following her much since she left the show. I thought it was nice to see her smiling face at Shannon’s birthday festivities. All I knew about Meghan King Edmonds, at the time she came on the show, was that she had been married before, was on a reality show where she worked as a salesgirl for an upscale resale shop in the St Louis area, married Jim and they moved to the OC. She was like Gina, in a way, that they were both young, naive and were both convinced everything was okay in their world and they wouldn’t have the same problems all the other ladies were dealing with in their lives. As we now know, life can get messy and it doesn’t always go as planned... I wish Meghan had realized that a man with Jim’s reputation would not be a great choice for a husband. It sounds like he cheated on all his wives. I feel bad for her current situation and wish her the best. At least she has a nice family, supportive parents and siblings to help her during this chaos.

OMG, thank you for speaking for all of us, well at least me, when we give Tamrat any slack!! Too funny!! 😎😂 That’s how I feel about a lot of the housewives, especially Kelly.

This!! This is what I expect to see, housewives like Kameron, Shannon, LVP, Kyle, Sonja, etc. Women that are over the top in some form that create drama that’s not all about a dark energy but is instead more frivolous, fun or even delusional...not outrageous in the way that the OC has been the last few episodes. The in your face sexuality, hustling, shock value that Bravo is gravitating to on most of their shows. This is why I liked Alexis and Heather Dubrow. Bitchy, flashy, fashionable without going too far. I think Kameron is harmless and just I love her sweet pink Lady Dior bag! Please, more of that Barbie housewife for me!