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I bet Gina was at one of those Lularoe home parties, sold like Tupperware, at home or a get together event somewhere for that company. 🤨😟 It was trending for awhile, but I hope it’s become a thing of the past, because they are known for these bright, busy looking leggings and pajama like clothes. IMO, the ugliest articles of clothing I’ve ever seen, that for some reason became a thing. I can’t believe that would be cool in their circle, but this is Gina we are talking about. A woman of questionable taste for sure. Fancy pants would certainly not approve of it! I can’t imagine Heather dealing with Gina.

Thank you! I’m 52 and feel the same way. It seems to now be acceptable today. Just look at Twitter/FB for people to dictate what doesn’t sit well with them about yourself/what you post, or who ever 24/7. I think it’s our modern society that has led people to believe that you are a bad person because of xyz...because they don’t agree with you. It’s not always the case. Erika, for example talks about the dark cloud being lifted without LVPs presence in this “group” of women. Maybe Erika's the dark cloud. Just because the coven agrees with Erika on that particular subject doesn’t mean what it think that it means. I don’t dislike Erika, but I would argue the greater public thinks Erika is more of a buzzkill then LVP. Remember when LVP says her feelings were hurt about what she considers a cold, cordial sympathy note from Erika, she expressed her feelings were hurt. But does that really mean Erika is a cold hearted person because LVP felt that way? Maybe, maybe not, but that was her feeling at the time. Most people agreed LVP should not have said anything. When LVP realized she interpreted her note the wrong way, because she hasn’t been thinking straight, she apologized to Erika. She realized she was projecting her hurt onto Erika. Do these ladies ever self reflect that way and wonder if their beef with her is truly justified? Everything is not black and white. In fact, I’m still amazed by Kyle’s lack of compassion towards LVP during that scene at LVP dogs, “I’ve been going through things too Lisa!” Talk about hurting people’s feelings. But that’s just my opinion and observation...not a fact. Our world would be a much better place if people stopped judging motives and actually had constructive dialogue without assigning blame/character flaws 24/7. We are living in the age of the gotcha society. We have a first amendment here, pull up your big boy or girl panties and deal with it. They wanted to tarnish LVP and Camille,sometimes with or without their help while rejecting any discussion of their faults.

This is what all the animosity comes down to...insinuations of incidencesences (ha, ha) about LVP from the other ladies on the show with no clarification or clear proof of video/social media/texts. JD5166, you are so right, all Denise had to do was be nice, she didn’t even need to necessarily acknowledge what VPDs did for her 8 dogs. If she just said she had no issues with LVP, or was clear as to why she referred to incidents, the audience would have thought nothing of what she said on WWHL. Denise is her own worst enemy, like Brandi, but Denise is a gentler person.

This is why the NYTimes is not taken seriously anymore, the way it was 20+ years ago, that was my point. A clickbait-y headline that a reality star in the NYTimes,taking 4 bites of caviar is tacky IMO. Pathetic, tacky and ridiculous. Again, that’s my opinion. Sure, if they want a gossip section, whatever, but that headline was ridiculous. Bet they would not have used that on certain celebrities, only reserved for the ones they don’t like.

While I agree, she does absolutely come across like a tacky cow, the fact that NYT uses this as a gotcha headline is even more pathetic. Note the reference also to Devorah Rose, Tinsley’s enemy from her earlier reality show! Don’t know how anyone takes her seriously.

That’s what I don’t get...we know Barbara isn’t coming back (just a hunch) why wouldn’t she take her place? What about Lu? IMO, if they are going to ditch someone, she should go. She needs some privacy if she wants to be successful getting herself back together.

Remember in France, all those drinks Teddi ingested (how many calories was that?!) when Kyle was getting her to bed she had to take the chips away from Teddi? Then she drags her upstairs to put her to bed and Teddi whines that she’s hungry...hmmm Your point is spot on. It’s all about her control issues.

Glad you reminded me of this because I don’t recall this coming up at the reunion. They should have shown the clip of Teddi saying they postponed the “talk” or confrontation with Camille. How kind of them. 🙄 They clearly were planning to address/hold court in order for Camille to atone for her sins. They had to postpone because of a death and a house burning down getting in the way...dang it, I hate it when that happens, therefore they would look heartless and we can’t have that! Basically Camille was guilty of not buying into groupthink. When Andy was trying to convince Camille it was not a set up, that clip would have supported her point of view but then they wouldn’t be able to gaslight her! Unrelated, but with Rinna v LVP, Rinna is the one who brought up Munchausen, she discussed it with her hairdresser first, then Kyle. Then they talked about it with LVP and Rinna accused LVP of getting her to bring it up to Yolanda. As if Rinna, the sweet, quiet, non confrontational, demure cherub she is wouldn’t be able to stir the pot all by herself. I think she never liked LVP, because she was a fan favorite OG, didn’t like she was getting a much bigger share of the big bucks, and the spin offs while Rinna was stuck as part of the ensemble of wives. Also...Rinna was mad that Andy didn’t bring her on the show season 1, she auditioned but Andy wanted people like LVP that weren’t obvious actors. (He since changed his mind, thus Eileen, Denise, Rinna) At that time, the Hamlins were in a financial bind. Thus, IMO, the initial source of resentment.

Teddi needs to go. She is up Kyle’s a@@ and she is a buttinsky, probably the most annoying trait to me. Erika was right at the reunion last year, she caught onto her before everyone else. Erika has gone up a few notches to me, because she was either humbled by Tom’s financial issues or she realized she needed to be the calm one. (a little bit of both, perhaps) She appeared to be the grown up in the room. Next season, they need to drop Teddi and please not bring in another stooge for Kyle to buddy up with...Like some other posters mentioned earlier, nothing would be better to me than for someone like Nicollette Sheridan to show up and outshine Rinna. Rinna was like a Cheshire Cat all season. She reminded me of Tamra in her earlier seasons...giddy to be a bully. Rinna claims she wasn’t a bully but out of all these women she was the biggest cheerleader for knocking down LVP. All of their THIS group of women is wonderful! Please!

I really can’t believe how dumb Andy thinks Camille is, acting (that good ol fake amnesia!) as if he wasn’t stirring the pot with Camille and Denise. It’s just laughable to me. It seemed to me that Andy focused on the difference between Camille’s handling of her divorce compared to Denise. He asked several questions meant to elicit a response from Camille by pitting then against each other and on several other topics as well. They started getting irritated with each other in the last few episodes, then production and Andy saw their opening, and there you have the resulting conflict. Camille saw it all coming but she let her emotions get the best of her, exactly what Andy was hoping would happen. After all, without Camille and the absence of LVP, they needed fireworks for the 3 episode reunion ratings.

Well, according to Rinna, LVP should have cleared a medical leave with her and the other ladies. (again, main source from the Jenny McCarthy interview). Rinna was talking as if LVP needed to justify her absence to the housewives. Seriously? 🙄

I know, right?!! 😎😁

Nailed it! As an earlier poster said, it’s maybe more akin to envy then jealousy. She’s sophisticated and very clever and Tom Girardi picked up on that immediately...which Erika did not appreciate at their couples dinner way back when Erika was new to the show. I like how you phrased it...constantly being bested and put out by her because she usually comes out on top, smelling like sparkling pink rose. Rinna was openly giddy expressing that LVP must be slipping. She was gleeful that LVP was no longer “winning” the housewives game. (Which may lead to a raise for the remaining ladies)

Not that I expected to get the truth or any reveal about “the lovely woman” who supposedly adopted Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy, but the WWHL episode tells us that we will not get the truth at the reunion. The reunions rarely resolve any issues from the season. It’s clear from this episode and the previews we will not know any of the facts behind the scenes and LVP is guilty without evidence. Why do these ladies think LVP needs to answer to them? I can see Dorit and Teddi having an issue with her if they are the ones telling the truth about this saga, but why is Kyle shocked LVP is upset with her? Why would LVP reach out to Rinna or Erika? What about them reaching out to her themselves? Are their cars and cell phones broken? They can’t drive to her house or restaurants and ask to speak with her off camera? Kyle with her BS about how she should come to the reunion, so at the very least, we can agree to disagree, and we will support her...Like previous posters said, why bring her birthday present to the reunion? You can’t have them delivered? Why do they think they are the believable ones? These women have “their truth” but their version of events is not truth. I would believe them if they actually coughed up legit, hard evidence on LVPs role in puppygate, but they won’t...or there is no evidence, just opinion. Why is Teddi’s proof valid when all she has is a cropped screenshot from Blizzard? Where’s the beef?!

I think that’s proven by comments made by many of the ladies. The biggest evidence is Rinna, through her social media accounts and appearances. She is very clear that she was not happy that LVP seemed to be favored by Bravo. In her interview with Jenny McCarthy, Rinna commented that she felt LVP was profiting at her expense. She was tweeting about it. She’s uses Brandi like tactics on social media. I think all the ladies felt this at some level, but it was Rinna that was fueling the angst at every turn. She resents that LVP had a cozier gig with Bravo. Rinna is an actress, she knows that pay in Hollywood is determined by worth, not government mandate. Hey Rinna, LVP requested time off from Bravo...Andy has acknowledged this information. If you are mad things are not “even Stevens” than your wrath should be with Bravo and Hollywood producers, not LVP. Pay is not and has not ever been equal with many Bravo celebs.

Agreed!! The whole Denise vs Camille thing seemed to come very late in the season. I think the producers needed to create drama at the reunion and took advantage of the end of the season rumblings between the two ladies. I think Camille knew the ladies were ticked at her for not going along with the mean girls club. After all, she had the audacity to make nice comments about LVP in the People magazine article after her wedding and Rinna was clearly outraged. Really Rinna? How dare Camille make nice nice with LVP when she didn’t bother to attend the wedding...oh, the injustice in this world, huh Rinna? Camille and Denise were arguing at the party because Denise was not having Camille confronting Rinna, remember the “Back off” “No, you back off” tiff? Denise was acting like the buttinsky Teddi. Camille went into the reunion knowing the ladies were mad at her and she knew there were going to be coming for her. She saw Denise’s comment from the episodes about not being a “greedy, F@cking whore” then experienced the “No, you back off” from Denise...She is being addressed at the reunion and now Andy’s questions seemed to be setting up a comparison that Denise was more gracious about her divorce than Camille, the greedy whore, and she saw it coming at her as she’s now the new bad guy. LVP is not there, so they are coming at her for not going along with THE LVP take down plan. I thought I would like Denise, but seeing her so attached to the likes of the snake Rinna, bringing Brandi back on our screens, sugarcoating her divorce, what is going on?! She seems so cool, kind, chill, charitable and an awesome mom but between the Aaron talk, the Richie Sambora/Heather deal, and marrying Charlie Sheen, of all people...something is off. No to mention that she’s so beautiful and she ruined her face...almost as bad as Meg Ryan. Why??! Does anyone know what she did? Fillers or surgery? Did she use Brandi’s docs?

It definitely seemed as though Teddi’s was Kyle’s henchman/spokesman/bodyguard this season. Teddi likes to insert herself in conversations that have nothing to do with her and when someone points that out she cries and runs away like a toddler. Denise also took it upon herself to be henchman/bodyguard for Dorit. I get her being protective of Rinna, since they are long time friends, but why the sudden devotion to Dorit? IMO, Camille came in hot because she figured out the real scheme, squeezing out LVP, and the women were not going to tolerate anyone that broke from the coven. The other ladies seemed irritated that Camille wasn’t going along with the program. Was this filmed before/after Andy’s baby shower? That would clear things up. I agree, Rinna could care less that LVP, Camille, Kim, whomever, feels hurt or pushed aside because as far as Rinna is concerned, this is a game and she’s playing to win by securing her spot with her sh@t stirring ways...anything to keep her spot on the show. Oh, that hustle! They sure looked so proud of themselves at Kyle’s backyard lunch. It looked like they were congratulating each other on how “right” and “honest” they are...thanks to the poster who pointed out that Kyle thinks she’s the Regina George of the crew. I too, agree with Alexia, these bitches are next level. From the mouth of babes!

Thanks for bringing this forward. But...this is why I’ve never warmed up to this woman, I never felt she was genuine in any way, shape or form. I would much rather see the “real” Lisa Rinna then the soap opera version of her that Rinna has crafted. She really gets a kick out of herself, doesn’t she?! The worst display is her, it’s all about me, like at Andy’s baby shower. No, I don’t care about your high kicks Rinna, save it for Harry, pretty please! We also know, that Andy declined to put her on the show, season 1, because in the beginning he wanted the focus to be an insiders look on the real housewives, not actors. While some of the ladies had acted, it was not the core/center of their lives/worlds. Then Andy changed his mind and welcomed Rinna, Eileen and Denise, who are all well known as actors. Why the change in strategy? I feel like Brandi brought the show down and Rinna made it campy and ruined the formula. I miss the magic that was season one RHOBH! 🙁

Maybe it’s because on his very first day of filming, at a beautiful dinner, with people he never met before, Dorit called Camille a see you next Tuesday at the top of her voice. Just maybe that’s it...🧐

All of this! Camille is the next target of the mean girls clique led by Rinna. The difference is girls, she gives as good as the best of them try & fail to do to her. They, especially Rinna, snapped because Camille went off the script. Rinna was the one winding them up the day after Camille's wedding. Why? Camille dared to hold the snark towards LVP in the People magazine article. Rinna, Teddi and Dorit have been waiting to strike but were delayed so they could pretend to show Camille compassion after the fires. Rinna with her, “own it” lines pushing Camille to diss LVP for not coming to the shower/wedding. Camille was pushed on the subject by Dorit and then they are horrified that she spills the dirt on why she doesn’t trust Dorit? Remember, the producers cut the film of the lady chasing Dorit at the pool but all the ladies knew it happened. It’s true, financially troubles were front and center storylines on RHNJ, before it was in the press, because Jacqueline and Caroline kept calling Teresa out on it. Orange County, NY, Potomac, Atlanta and Dallas episodes have exposed financially woes of many of these ladies. This was part of Taylor’s story as well. Don't come for someone when you know they could outmaneuver you.

Oh Camille is definitely shady and shallow at times, for sure! i just don’t feel it’s right, just my opinion, to minimize another’s loss, because they have means that others unfortunately do not have to cushion the blow. Both Camille and Denise experienced a big scare, watching those flames engulf their neighborhoods while trying to get to a safer place. Denise was renting...they both lost clothes and household goods but Camille lost her home. I do think there’s an attachment there for Camille and her kids that Denise wouldn’t have with a rental. Again, JMHO.

While I agree, she’s better off than most, she did lose a lot of family treasures. Also, Malibu is her home base and likely contained the bulk of her main wardrobe. Just because someone is wealthy and will bounce back okay because of her finances, doesn’t mean this wasn’t a big tragedy for her and her family.

Does this mean that Rinna has now assumed the role of master manipulator since they iced out LVP?! She certainly didn’t help LVP or Camille with damage control tips...interesting.

Does anyone know what happened to Wirewrap? Haven’t seen her posts for a long time and she was a frequent poster. Just wondering.

I’m not necessarily fond of Erika Jayne and definitely prefer the Erika Girardi version...(mostly because I can’t stand the clinger known as Mikey) is there another persona there, as many astute posters have mentioned before? Who is the real Erika? While I don’t love her icy tone at times (still can’t figure out why she disliked LVP immediately) I think Teddi and Kylie were being ridiculous to her on this trip. She told them she was feeling comfortable (finally!) and their reaction is to question the validity of her words? I can certainly understand while Kyle was upset by Rinna’s words/actions while dressed as Erika (I’d probably feel the same way in her position) but once Erika said she was not bothered by it, then shut up Teddi/Kyle. Especially Teddi, who seems to think she is Kyle’s spokesperson, in her mind. I can see why Kyle was hurt by Rinna’s inappropriateness, but it’s not Erika’s issue.