Fable

I thought about these things, but theory #1 seems farfetched. I can't see a network and/or producer paying needless money when the actor never got any real character development, so why would the the person who played them matter? Theory #2 might have worked if it had only been 1 regular who died, and in fact, I believed initially Beverly died, but once the sheriff died, all bets were off. Theory #3 I can completely buy, except I don't because I think this show is going to try and "shock and awe" us. I like the show, and I am intrigued, but I am not confidant that I will like the ending

Well, I liked it but not for the reasons I thought I would. I've had a morbid fascination with Manson and his ability to recruit and control The Family since reading Helter Skelter as a teenager, so I tuned in for that. Instead, I'm really enjoying the detectives more. I don't find the Manson stuff all that compelling so far. Maybe that will change, but I guess it doesn't matter since this is really a fictional show and only loosely based on the actual Manson Family.

I find it hard to believe that two people billed as regulars have already been killed off, so I assume that they either aren't really dead or are somehow brought back. I think this is the type of show I would have been better off binge watching. Ten weeks of head scratching is probably going to drive me nuts.

I don't really disagree, but the thing is, I doubt they are going to find a suitable replacement, and we will have to sit through another season of a cancelled TV show. I don't know a lot of people who watched this, but of the people I did know who did, everyone seemed to like it. Pity!

This! And what really chaps my ass is that it will probably be replaced by something as equally likely to get cancelled. Damn! I loved this show.

I thought Beverly was supposed to have removed her chip at some point in the past and kept it in her pocket to keep from being discovered, or at least that seemed to be what she indicated to Burke. I thought I saw Burke tape his microchip to the undersurface of the table at Kate's.

Well, I was surprised. Since the first episode up until the end of this one, I felt certain Beverly was playing a con on Ethan by lulling him into a sense of false security while pretending to help him, but was actually feeding information to the folks who are behind whatever is going on. I really enjoyed the first episode, but I found this one a bit frustrating and disjointed (too many WTF moments as noted by ottoDbusdriver). I didn't hate it, but definitely thought it was less interesting than the last one. I'm in until the end though because my obsessive-compulsive personality demands that I figure out what is actually happening.

I don't necessarily agree. I haven't seen either actor offer up anything worthy of an Emmy reel, but my like or dislike of their characters has nothing to do with it. I like Trubel, and I liked Juliette until she became a raging hexenbeist. I didn't even mind when found out she was a beist. It wasn't until the writing for her went off the rails and she started wreaking havoc that I took a serious dislike towards her, but frankly I don't think I would like Rosalee either if the writers had given her that story instead (though I do think that actor may have pulled it off better). I did think Toboni's acting choices seemed a little off when she found out about Juliette and when she was telling the gang about Nick's mom. It did seem like she was just reciting lines without putting much thought into it, and I thought it was a bit off putting, but maybe that is how she was directed. In any case, overall I like the character.

This is one of those cases where I can see both sides. It's frustrating being victimized and having nothing done about it, and I can see homeowners taking matters into their hand to protect themselves, but baiting someone to break in just so you can seek your own vigilante justice is what sticks out to me here and completely crosses a line. It reminds of the episode 12 Minutes on Elm Street, where an older man was living alone and had been repeatedly burglarized, so he set it up to look like he wasn't home so he could lure the thieves back into the home where he would carry out his vengeance. About 2 years ago, our garage was broken into when I was home alone, and a bunch of lawn/yard equipment stolen. I wasn't aware anyone had been there until my son came home from class that night and found the garage door halfway open and the equipment missing. Needless to say, it took me months to feel comfortable alone in the house at night. Then about 6 months ago, I was in my room watching TV when the phone rang, but the handset that I had with me, had a dead battery, so I got up to go get a new handset. When I got there, I heard someone trying to open the door that led from the garage into the house, which was locked. My adrenaline kicked in and my first reaction was to go to the kitchen and grab a big ol' knife because I was going to do whatever I needed to protect myself, and while doing so, I happened to see out the kitchen window a pickup truck outside the house. It was dark and I couldn't see what kind or what color, but all 3 of my kids drove pickups, so I looked at the caller ID to see if one of them had called, and fortunately my other son, who was doing some remodeling for us, had stopped by to do some work and knocked on the front door, which I apparently did not hear, then tried calling and when I didn't answer assumed I wasn't home, so he decided to see if he could get in the side door. I have to tell you, I shook like a leaf for about 20 minutes afterwards, even after finding out who it was.

I just can't watch this show with any regularity any more. I do keep up on it by reading recaps (and watching an episode now and again if the recap interests me) as well as watching clips on Youtube, because I did fall in love with most of these characters early on, and even though the show is sometimes too painful to watch, I am still curious about what is happening with them. Watching periodically just works better for me. I don't really have any expectations anymore, and I enjoy it more when I get to pick and choose which episodes I want to see and which ones I don't. I did end up watching most of the finale. I saw the first full hour, which I actually thought was nonsensically fun. However, I had an exhausting day at work and fell asleep somewhere during the second half, but I've read a recap, so I'm up to snuff. So, Henry is the new author? That's fitting, I guess. Emma is the new Dark One? Hmm, not sure what I think about that. Might be that I should go back and watch the ending.

Well that was better than I expected (though that isn't saying much). I almost put off watching because I was really dreading where they were going to go. I feared they were going to try to redeem Juliette, and I was also afraid Renard was going to be the one to die after being repossessed by the Ripper. Kenneth, the king and hopefully Juliette being dead I can live with, except I really don't trust the fact that Juliette is, in fact, dead, but the ending was, at least, satisfying. I'm glad Truble and Meisner are back, but don't know if I'll be watching next season. I'll start checking out the spoilers when they begin filming for next season before I decide.

I'd never heard of this show until I saw a promo a couple weeks ago and thought the premise seemed interesting, and it did not disappoint. It has a fantastic cast, and the characters all seem interesting enough. I did find Nurse Pam a little over the top, but I didn't really mind since it seemed to lend itself to the sense of other-worldliness which is intriguing. I'm not a spoiler-phobe, but there a couple of shows I watch that I'd prefer not to be spoiled at all, and this seems like it will be one of them. It seems like it will be fun trying to put the pieces together. I really hope this show does well and that they are careful with the writing, because I've seen too many shows/movies that start off with a great sense of mystery and intrigue that totally get turned upsidedown with inconsistencies in the story telling. That said, I'm on for the ride!

Even though we all saw it coming, Bradley's death was nothing short of disturbing (brilliantly filmed but disturbing nonetheless). I was never a fan of Bradley's, but it was mainly because I found her to be 1-dimensional and dull, but I always considered her a relatively nice person, who genuinely cared for Norman. Her death truly horrified me, because I could not begin to imagine what was going on her mind once Norman started becoming unglued. It also saddened me quite a bit, because her existence was so, so lonely, knowing that she would never be missed. Like others, I was terrified when Dylan started going into the basement. and I literally held my breath. I was so relieved when Norman was not down there. I agree with the poster who said this episode could have been the series finale and would have been satisfying. I am looking forward to future seasons, although with Norman already at this stage in his psychosis, I can't even guess how they are going to maintain the suspense much longer.

I don't think the writers were very fair to Kelly...to have such clever and kick-ass woman meet such ridiculous ending. It was so out of character from what has been established about Kelly. It's a shame really! RIP Kelly.

What a waste of an hour! This show is a mess. Not much of anything that happened this episode made a lick of sense. Why on earth did Nick come to the conclusion that Adalind would know what was up with Renard? That really seemed like a stretch. And, the Renard's Ripper arc seemed completely pointless, but at least it's over. No way in Hell would Kelly have walked into that setup (with a baby no less) and be taken out so quickly and easily….no way! As for Juliette, there are no words, so I'll just say what everyone else is saying – DIE!

I haven't read or heard that, but I try to avoid spoilers, but it sounds likely, especially after Monday's episode. I don't know what will set him off, but I suspect he is going to go full-on "Mother" on her, and given the fact that he has stolen one of Norma's dresses, I won't be surprised if he is wearing it when he kills her.

I thought it might be at first, probably up until near the end, when she was talking about how lonely and disconnected she felt, which then led me to conclude that she was doomed, especially after she tried to seduce Norman and Mother showed up.

This pretty much sums up how I felt about this show as well. I almost didn't continue to watch because I couldn't stand Backstrom, but because I liked all the other main characters, I stuck with it, and actually enjoyed it quite a bit. It took me a while to warm up to Backstrom though, and I can't say I ever grew to particularly like him, but he became tolerable, or perhaps sympathetic is a better word. Anyhow, it if gets renewed, I'll be back.

Color me surprised that Abby was actually the killer. I did find her behavior was often strange, but I figured, because she was such a little snoop, she must have known something. I didn't think network TV would have the guts to go with a premeditated murder of a child by another child (an accident perhaps, but premeditated?). I never would have guessed it. One reason I say this is because another show that I watch, Hannibal, which is a far more psychologically horrifying and gruesome show, pulled an episode out of its rotation because of children killing children. I agree all the signs were there with Abby, but I still didn't believe it until about the last 10 minutes or so of the episode. I was sure Abby hurt him, albeit accidentally, and that someone else came along and killed him. Good job to all who guessed otherwise. . Yes they can if the evidence suggests otherwise. There are many such cases, too many to link. Google search overturned posthumous convictions. I'm not sure it's much difference, just a mincing of words.

Wow....reading through this thread is almost like Sleepy Hollow revisited!

I watch on Hulu, and I've never had a problem.

I think it's canon if you can take the Inside The Episode seriously. I personally do but I guess it is all up to interpretation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UturBDUkuxs

I think so too...I seem to remember him buying some hair dye for her and claiming it was for his mother. Isn't that how he met up with Cody?

I agree that Lost was innovative, but it had the advantage of having compelling characters and a season or two of intriguing stories. I can't begin to compare the two.

That really is the million dollar question. He seems cautious and suspicious by nature, and he said it himself that chaos seems to swirl around her. It seems like he wants to let his guard down, but can't quite get there. I don't really blame him though, she has lied to him more than once. He keeps his secrets but he has never lied (that I recall). I wish Norma would have come clean about Norman, but I can see how she felt she couldn't. Even though she considers Alex a friend, he is an authority figure, and she is too afraid of losing Norman. He has come through for her before though by falsifying a police report and beyond, but would he do it again? It seems like he has proven to her time and again that she can trust him, and I do think he would be a rational person who try to help her sort things out without becoming reactionary, and Norma has trusted him with things, but now that it is Norman they are talking about, that may be a horse of different color. Perhaps if he had asked a different question of Norma that Bob had raised, she might have come clean, but Norman was just too close to home. I do think he has it bad [for her] (and that aint't good).