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I guess what I find funny is how easy it would be for Leah to diffuse all the food criticism. She could just make sure that during the week that MTV films, there are fruit and vege trays everywhere and she buys a couple of jars of sauce to whip up with pasta and throws together enough stew for two nights. Done. MTV can only film what they have and if she made a conscious effort to not have junk food everywhere during that week, we wouldn't have snark material. It isn't like MTV are actually following them around all the time, Leah could still feed them frosting, Cheetos and canned ravioli to her heart's content during the rest of the month. She would just need to sit down and plan what "healthy" foods she is going to be slopping up during that particular week. Given that the twinses are at Corey and Miranda's for half the week and she barely seems to be going to school, there really isn't a reason that even just for that week she throws some veges in a pot with stock and makes soup. Honestly, if Leah takes all this to heart so much, she needs to learn to play the game a bit better. Have a cleaner come, only have healthy foods in MTV time, don't post food pics on Snapchat/Instagram. She'd still be a shitty mother but at least she wouldn't be giving the haterz so much ammunition.

If Leah with her massive social media following is only pulling $1700 for two months, that ain't something to be proud of. If every shitty lip stick is $25 that means she has only racked up (about) 68 sales. Not sure why she thinks that is an achievement, all things considered, not even 2 grand for 2 months isn't really that impressive. When you consider her social media following she is hardly #businesswoman if she has 1.2 million followers and can only drag 68 sales out of that in two months. Especially when the first two months are when people will be interested in buying, no one gives a rat's arse 6 months in when a new shade of peach/rose/ugly comes out. She really should have capitalised on the first few months and I seriously doubt that those checks are going to get bigger. There is so many stupid people on her page that she should be rolling in the cash but she couldn't even do that.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree because here are my thoughts - 1. David not only pushed her out of the car but he also choked her, threatened to kill her and pushed her down the stairs and she nearly went into premature labor. Even if we just take the car incident, "going crazy" at him is not in any way shape or form an excuse for assaulting another person. 3. She does not appear to be keeping their son away out of spite. She appears to be doing it out of a well founded fear of danger, something which a judge agreed to, hence the domestic violence order. 4. This is the man who answered, "I'd beat her" to the question about what he would do if his daughter dropped his phone in the toilet, posted a sexually explicit photo of his girlfriend's kid and called a toddler a whiny little bitch and saw nothing wrong with any of that. And that is only what we know about. 5. I resent the implication that a woman who was assaulted by her partner would be keeping their child away out of spite. That implies that women are using the domestic violence system to be petty cows and while yes, for every Kail who is using an AVO against their ex, there are hundreds of other women who live in fear of their ex-partners. Given David's track record, I would suggest that his ex appears to be in the second category. Filing it later doesn't make her claim any less genuine especially since we know very little about this woman and her reasons behind filing.

Also, can we just all appreciate that Kaiser is Nathan's mini-me?

I'm with Vee. Jo seems to have Isaac 50% of the time at the moment so there should be a conversation about making that official. It's not even about child support but about having the current informal agreement made permanent, it should be recognised that Jo is taking care of Isaac half the time. And Vee isn't saying, let's jump in the car and go to court but rather that it should be floated as an idea although I'm sure that Kail would hate it. Their current agreement IIRC is that Kail has full custody. Well over the last year she has been doing 50/50 with Jo so I agree with Vee that it should be a topic for discussion. That said, I can also see where Jo is coming from. If Kail wants, she can change the situation and go back to the strict minimum amount of time that Jo gets because she is a controlling cow. She's been a manipulative bitch for years now and there is no reason to believe that it's going to change anytime soon.

Is it terrible that I can't remember which twin is Aleeah? They both have such silly names that defy the logic of spelling and include some form of "Leah" in them.

Plus Jenelle was always the one bankrolling them. I don't believe for a second that Nathan really contributed to their house/bills/endless vacations. Ditto with the other losers, she might have been a crappy mom and hated online but she was guaranteed a nice 3 figure check every year. I still think that Jenelle is paying for David but he doesn't seem reliant on her like the others. *Supposedly* he has a job but even more than that, he's far scarier than the others. I 100% agree with you that she's keeping the peace because his temper and violence is so much worse than the rest. Already she has seen him call 911 on her mother, complain that she is co-parenting with another man, been arrested for violating a order of protection and controlled her interactions with both Nathan and Barb. Criminal behaviour isn't particularly foreign for Jenelle but all that would probably mean that she has a vested interest in keeping him happy.

My mum continues to lift our 30kg Lab in and out of the car boot despite her own broken back because the vet said that the dog shouldn't over strain herself. The Dr said the same thing about my mum but she'll use herself as a ramp before our baby gets hurt. On the serious side, it sound like you were an amazing mom to your girl and I'm sure she appreciated the chauffeuring up and down the stairs!

So basically they want a group of girls who all got pregnant in their teens and want to be on TV? I think that Leah's holler might have some worthy candidates! Seriously though, it sounds like they are hunting for girls from low socio-economic areas (more likely to be pregnant) and poor family structures (more drama) who are willing to exploit themselves and their children on TV. Such a healthy combination!

Did the f*cking bitch need to use the word "favourite"? I guess you might as well be open about the fact that you don't really give a damn about your other two kids cause they have the wrong anatomy. Also, I feel that it is time for the annual "Oh my god Jenelle had another kid" thread name change! Someone a couple of pages back nominated "Birther of three, mother of none" which I feel would be rather appropriate (sorry whoever that was for stealing the idea!).

This is how I'm picturing it went down "Alright now how to we top Chelsea's announcement?" "I know! Let's wack a flower crown on Jenelle, put a bathbomb and some flowers in the bath and make it really snazzy. Also, we need to make sure that we maximise Jenelle's boobs so have the camera looking right down her bra. Post -baby snap back body isn't going to photograph itself!"

I fucking hate when people blame dogs because of behaviours that they taught them. We knew a family who wanted to save money on dog toys by having it play with their kid's old stuff. The kid was maybe 7 and they gave it a couple of old stuffed toys from when he was a toddler. In a completely unforeseeable way, the puppy went into the kid's room and chewed up a couple of his toys which were left on the floor. They were completely gobsmacked until just about everyone pointed out that the dog was basically told that any toy that smelt like the kid was their's, especially if it was on the floor. This was their first dog and they had genuinely never thought that the dog would think that way. Thankfully, once they realized, they had the grace to admit that it had been their fault and took themselves off to puppy school. If that ever happened with Jenelle or Kail they would have an ad on Facebook quicker than you could say idiot.

Through my work with kids I know a mother who also attends my university. She is currently putting herself through a law degree while raising two boys, one of whom has Asperger's, anxiety and problems with his speech pattern. Plus she works part time (was full time before she went back to uni). Plus she got herself a scholarship because she does so much volunteering in the community. So yeah, Kail can shut her mouth about how hard it is for someone on a quarter of a million dollars a year and with no job to finish a degree when other people are helping to raise her kids. If she spent less time at Starbucks and posting duck-face selfies she would have finished last year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4191974/Kylie-Minogue-tells-Kylie-Jenner-trademark.html Turns out that the courts agree that Kylie Jenner is a "secondary television personality" and can't just run off trademarking one of the most common names in the Western world. There can only be on Kylie and her last name isn't Jenner!

I think Kail had spent the first year of Isaac's life dreaming of a two-story house with a husband, couple of dogs and big car. She fought Jo for custody all the way because she wanted the picture perfect life with a mom and dad, which was why she encouraged Isaac to call Javi "dad". She wanted the 2.4 kids and big living room to decorate to her Pinterest heart's content. But once she got it, she realised that actually it's a fair bit of work to be a wife and mother. She didn't like being tied down to another person which was why she encouraged Javi to ship out. She didn't like being a practical stay at home mom so she tried to turn herself into a MILF. She's found out that the picket fence dream isn't as much fun as she thought it would be because she can't go out and party or bring home guys or do college life. She's realised that the kids are "holding her back" in want for a better phrase so now she is foisting them off onto others (Jo, Javi's family) so that she can go on vacation or have the dick of the month over.

I'm going to be overly cynical and say that Jenelle doesn't have Kaiser with Barb a lot because it gives fuel to the "haterz". She can't really be playing the victim of poor evil Barb's plot to steal Jace away if she hands over another kid. She can't tell her rabid twitter followers that she is doing everything she can to get "her son back" because "I am his mother" if Barb has also taken on the Roll or End Table. Even her brainless followers would probably twig onto the fact that she is "fighting for her son" but also voluntarily handing over another one to the same baby-stealing grandma. I don't think Jenelle cares about anyone but Jenelle and especially not her kids. I bet that she would hand Kaiser/End Table off in a heartbeat but it gets in the way of her SuperMom image that she wants.

http://people.com/babies/beyonce-expecting-twins-pregnant-jay-z/ Beyonce is pregnant with twins so we can all look forward to some desperation controversy from Kim and Kanye. Any bets on if it will be divorce, surrogacy or just plain old naked photos?

@Uncle JUICE completely agree, especially with what is a in-front-of-kids argument/discussion and what isn't. My problem with Javi and Kail is that they don't have discussions or arguments, they have flat out power struggle fighting. Even something as stupid as the car seat was all about Kail proving that she holds all the power (in her own mind at least) and that Javi needs to work around what she wants. IMO the issue is that neither of them are good at resolving issues so they aren't modeling particular good behaviour (as you and your wife are) so much as How To Be Argumentative 101. Especially since Kail very clearly doesn't want a resolution to anything, she seems to be of the attitude that it's my way or the highway.

This just goes to show what a sh*tty parent Kail is. It isn't up to Jo to explain why his ex is now getting divorced and why Isaac's stepdad won't be around anymore. Jo is the real MVP of this show. He has actively fostered a relationship between Isaac, Lincoln and Vivi and is prepared to put his own feelings about Javi aside to make sure that Isaac is happy. Isaac just broke my heart when he said "I wasn't ok" about when they were fighting. That right there is why adults need to keep adult business out of the kids lives. They had the perfect opportunity when Javi picked up the mail to talk about Isaac having his own room, what their relationship will be like (Javi wants friends, Kail wants strangers) and how they are going to work out custody. But noooo Kail had an urgent Starbucks appointment and now Isaac is paying the price. Also, whenever they cut from Jo's place to Kail's I find it quite striking with the difference in mood. Even though Kail would rather die than live somewhere so small, Jo's house always seems to be cosy and happy with Vee and Vivi playing or everyone just coexisting comfortably. Kail's house seems so sterile and bleak, the mood is always so negative because she's always bitching about Javi. I'd take Jo's little place over Kail's big Pinterest explosion anyday.

Also, somewhat late to the party, but I forgot to post this earlier. Leah - the sheer amount of irony in her segments make my head spin. Let's have a look at some of the highlights "Jeremy does things irrationally without thought!" - I don't even know where to start with this one. This from the girl who invested hundreds in Mary Kay, bought the worlds most expensive dryers and dickhopped from man to man says that Jeremy is irrational? Jesus God (Leah). "Maybe Jeremy will learn how to communicate from my example" - yeah if by this you mean "I'M NOT ANSWERING THE PHONE UNTIL JEREMY LEARNS TO COMMUNICATE" then sure. I guess Leah will be completely fine when Jeremy refuses to answer her calls/texts/smoke signals because she doesn't "communicate" well. Also I hope that Leah is able to get a refund on those grammar lessons. Jenelle - Kaiser cries for 0.25 of a second and she gives in even though it is supposed to be "nap time". Parenting 101 right here. When they are talking about how much "time" and "effort" it would be for two unemployed kinda-parents to find new land if the deal didn't work, I flat out laughed. Yeah, it must be hard to take time out of your schedule to be adults. I'm picturing that Jenelle's Land-Of-No-Hope goes like this 8am - feed Kaiser, 8-9am bitch about Nathan, 9-10am go to the gym, 10-11am bitch about Barb, 11-12pm Instagram selfie time, 12-1pm remember that Kaiser exists and chuck him a few hot dogs, 1-2pm nap time cause it's hard being Jenelle/David, 2-3pm argue with the haterz online, 3-4pm plan outfits for upcoming court dates, 4-5pm plan the next vacation, 5-6pm Twitter rants. Also, "So much possibilities we can do with the land" gives so many possibilities for snark. Chelsea - it's good to see that she is giving Aubree more responsibilities with the chore chart. As someone else said, she seems to be taking ideas from Aubree's old daycare and actual parenting guides rather than Pinterest (I'm looking at you Kail and Leah). Plus the way that she is preparing Aubree by talking about how she will be the special big sister is really sweet. Again, it seems like she has done her research which is admirable. Kail- where to start. I don't like Javi but it is beyond harsh to have him come back from 6 months of serving his country and find his stuff packed up in the garage, not being able to crash in his own house for a night, use the bin in his house and being basically humiliated (checking the keys, etc.). Kail wants to "close the chapter" but it doesn't work like that, not when there are kids and houses and insurance and finances involved. If Kail had her way she would be only communicating with Javi via lawyer and silently handing Lincoln once a week. She's a straight up bitch.

Also, not that it matters to mere mortals like us but Chelsea has almost the amount of likes on her baby announcement than Jenelle and her post is only 4 hours old (compared to Jenelle who put hers up a day ago). You just know that this is killing Jenelle inside. Chelsea gets the People article, all the applause and more social media attention while Jenelle can't find anyone who wants her photos. Unfortunately the third child by the third baby daddy isn't something that the tabloids are looking to celebrate, especially when both parents have criminal records.

If this show continues, I'm praying that Jenelle's segments are directly followed by Chelsea's. Chelsea - when Cole came to take Watson and I home from the hospital, he had the carseat that we bought a little while ago to be prepared. When I got home he had made a home cooked meal and Aubree was ready with a sign. He's currently singing nursery rhymes to the new baby with Aubree in between bringing me lemon water and crackers. Jenelle - we were partway through shopping for a crib when the baby came. The problem was, David forgot to bring the Instagram worthy baby's first outfit that I had picked out so we got into a screaming match in the hospital. He was still angry when we took the baby home and hasn't set up the change table. My mum had to tell Jace because I forgot that he existed. It's really hard having a toddler and baby so I'm planning on leaving Kaiser with the lady that works at the baby store because I'm assuming she has the "essentials". On the non-snarky side, it's good to know that mom and baby are well (I'm assuming anyway). Chelsea is a sweet girl and the baby will no doubt have a happy home. It's a shame that we can't say the same for Ensley.

Hahaha Jeremy seemed to be heading that way. He seemed to be one step away from cult chanting and voodoo. Completely agree, regrettably the girlses are more likely to be abused or injured in their own home than in a resort overseas. Especially with Leah's penchant for moving soul mates within months of meeting.

As others have said, I don't think that Leah can be trusted to take the girlses to Mexico. Not because there is the infinitely small chance they might kidnapped/held for randsom/sacrificed to the gods if you listen to Jeremy. I would have more sympathy if Jeremy had come at the issue with the perspective of "Leah has already let our kid wander off into the night and lost custody of the other two, don't think an international trip is a great idea. What about somewhere closer to home and doesn't involve so much travel?" Instead he came off as a racist hillbilly and turned everyone off. I wouldn't trust Leah to take anyone anywhere but that has less to do with Mexico and more to do with the fact that she is such a mess that she couldn't keep a houseplant alive. I can't see her being able to get three kids under 8 through various airport security screenings, passport control, managing the wheelchair, making sure they don't miss transfers/connecting flights and not having a complete meltdown. For f*cks sake the girl had a "panic attack" when she couldn't find the keys. What makes her think that a cross country international trip is a good idea when she can barely get them to softball?

I can sort of understand why Kanye wouldn't be appropriate for the event particularly in the light of his hospitalization (this is not a sledge on mental illness, more on the fact that he doesn't seem to be ready for a performance in front of billions). That said, saying that he isn't "American" enough seems pretty damn racist to me. I don't like him but if being born and bred in America doesn't make you American then what does? Saying his music isn't American certainly implies that there is only a certain type of "American" invited.