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Bethenny said that Ramona doesn't sleep around. Bethenny left the party and was talking to Luann. Ramona ran out to talk to her. I'm not sure we watched the same show. I've still got it on Tivo so I'll double check.

It probably is unlikely that the links are still valid after 2 years. Server upgrades, etc and that stuff just moves. No one goes back and repairs links. You need to catch this when it happens. Someone just asked why I thought that since Jason's PR person spun that the other way a month later and in the spirit of the internet if you say it enough times it's true. I know I saw the documents. They had the little boxes highlighted etc. So that's why I know that they asked for the same thing. I don't need other people to know that. Of course now that Jason has hired forensic accountants so that he can get every last penny of the $10 million he wants for a two year marriage ... yeah he's a douchebag.

Nope, that's what I heard too. And the inscription was just thanks for being there. I'm sure Heather felt a little foolish once she saw the actual taped event. God, wouldn't it be odd to always have taped evidence of how things happen. But to be fair, the guy who sued Bethenny gave her a name at a cocktail party so Luann could sue for $100 million.

Dorinda - It's early but she's going to be fun. I like her observations. Love that we have another summer in the Berkshire's gal. I hope we end up there again. I much prefer that experience over all the posing in the Hamptons. Heather - That was nasty over SkinnyGirl. Loved how they ran the clip with Beth telling Luann she called it the SkinnyGirl. I want a car for listening too! I think Heather is just a wee bit jealous that Bethenny hit the jackpot. If she continues this it's all about trying to be relevant. If this is the last we hear she just let the champs get the better of her. Sonja - Oh honey Ramona - Good grief, apparently no one is allowed to have brunch in the Hamptons but Ramona. Love the lost email. Even better was the clip they ran on WWHL where Ramona is committing the same brunch faux pas by asking Jill's guest Bethenny to lunch. I don't blame B for leaving the party. Luann - Finally a fine example of moving on with life. Sonja, Ramona, Beth - take notes. And how cute is Noel? Bethenny - Oh her talking heads are the best. Bitches who brunch.

So apparently 'Brandi is vindicated' means Kim never shuts up so Brandi looks good? So Brandi, Lisa is crazy? Everyone check her body language. She is practically on Andy's lap.

Kim, shut up, shut up, shut up. No one gets to talk but Kim. Man even Andy doesn't like it. Monty's dying so your daughter is a liar. Kim said the dog is off limits. Hahaha Monty's best friend. But boy he's not at a trainer. Lisa is killing it now. I'm glad she got her shit together. Damn Andy has already cancelled her contract. He actually sounds dismissive. Kathy talks to her 3-4 times a day? Maybe Kathy needs to spend some time with her son.

LVP is on target tonight. Ok she can come back next year. I approve.

Which is exactly why I think this is worse than what she said on the stand. If it was just spin then why didn't Jason want to cross examine her?

Even worse was she patted Eileen on the leg while she said it. It was the most dismissive gesture as well. It came off as Kim being up here and Eileen being down here.

Jason kept saying he asked for joint so it's one of those 'if I say it enough people will believe me'. That is what makes TMZ kinda fun. They like to get the court documents. The face that Jason is misrepresenting what he asked for is part of his creepiness. He asked for exactly the same thing that Beth did. So? Doesn't make him satan. What makes him a creepy person is that he continues to misrepresent it to make himself look better.

Ok, great news guys. I thought there was actual documents on TMZ and then after all the postings about how Jason wanted joint custody I decided to search in TMZ before I got all you guys are stupid and stuff. So here is the link. They both asked for exactly the same thing. There is a link in the article to the documents. TMZ loves linking court docs. http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/24/bethenny-frankel-husband-jason-hoppy-divorce-war-custody/?adid=TMZ_Search_Results

And as a Gladys Cravits on this that really pissed me off. If Jason didn't cross-examine her what else did she have on him? Damn, we may never know and I just bet there was something really good. Yes I know I'm going to hell.

The discussion was that every weekend was in Pennsylvania with the in laws. Jason suggested she just stay in NYC and he and Brynn could go to PA. That was when I got the first creepy in-law vibe. Then the next creepy bit was when they wanted to be included in Jason's birthday golf weekend with his buddies. Because that's not unhealthy at all. I actually have a bigger creep factor from them than I do Jason.

Well since the loft has her office, her employees offices and her custom built SkinnyGirl bar that's where photo shoots happen. They had one during her show as well.

So here is what I saw on the Bethenny show about the apartment. The decorator was going to fulfill the bar requirement with repurposing a lovely $50K armoire into a bar that would tuck away and be lovely when not in use. Bethenny corrected them because 'I'm not spending 50K on a piece of furniture to start but when I said I need a bar here I mean a bar with a 6 foot logo. That is what bought this place. This is our office and the bar will be used in display and photos for the business.' Fast forward to the photo shoot with two grown ass men walking around in their underwear grazing off the craft service table. That's where Jason lost me. He's not an innocent party. His parents are as creepy as they came off in the Bethenny show. I too have watched friends go through this and it is very difficult.

I've no dog in the fight. I don't love or hate her. I do think that what she is doing with SkinnyGirl is on par with Joy Mangano for branding and building from nothing and is nothing short of fabulous. But I have a thing about the internet way of 'if I say it enough times it must be true'. One of the twitter tricks that drives me CRAZY is where you compose a tweet of someone saying something horrendous but you compose it to look like you are just retweeting something they actually tweeted. Ack! So I always jump in when that stuff happens.

Well my favorite part is the beginning of the clip where Kim is acting like 'I'm 10 and just as cute as a button'. She's delusional. (credit to Kristen for that)

Her original partner was the fellow in Canada that manufactured Skinny Girl. She was being sued by a guy that said he was her agent and hadn't had contact with her since 1 year before the first bottle was manufactured. Her partner did quite well according to folks in Canada. The guy suing said he gave her that guys name and therefore was an agent and entitled to $100 million. Jason filed for primary custody. He didn't get that. None of those documents were sealed at the time and there were just boxes that you check. He checked primary custody the same box she checked.

The corporation that owns the apt predates Jason and Brynn. That's from the folks that dug it all down to Julie being president of that corporation. I'm sure that's what the forensic accountants are trying to break down. ( well I'm sure in my own little world anyway). They need to find a co-mingling of money that opens up Jason's right to the money. Cautionary tale, if you cash your gramma's bond to pay office overhead you suddenly are part owner of the business in a divorce. On the spin off it was very clear that the apt was bought with Skinnygirl money. There were off the cuff remarks about the built in bar with huge logo being omage to what bought the place. Then the office area being part of the reason for the loft purchase since it allowed a work/live set up. Not having the office there was not negotiable otherwise 'I' would have just bought something smaller. But it is still the marital residence so in NY Jason doesn't have to move until the divorce is final.

Thanks for that timeline. Andy asked about what happened on Halloween. So on October 31st Alexia saw a doctor. Since it was at night she would also have gone into the office after. It was the weekend so the first time she was seen by her regular foctor would be November 3 rd. so she gets bit, emergency care the same day, home care over the weekend and full infection on Monday. Since this is Beverly Hills and her family has money she may have been seen again on the weekend. But it's the right timeline for developing a serious infection. And you know none of the IG posts mentioned dog bite or Kim. All us minions jumped to that conclusion. Sometimes a rumor is true.

I'm with you here. I travel a lot. The entire check in process was full of please and thank you. She actually wasn't yelling into her cell. She walked over to him and addressed him personally. She posed it as a question not a command. She prioritized how important the request was. She slipped him a couple of bills. It was textbook well done. If we're concerned about not finding something to pick on just wait 5 minutes. This is Bethenny she'll give us something. But this exchange was not it.

I don't think asking for something from someone who is employed to bring those things, using the words please and thank you and handing him a big tip is behaving like a dirty classless ape.

This trust is administered by Bethenny's friend Julie. I think Radar made a big deal about that when they found the real estate records. They presented it more of a corporation. I do know folks with private jet money and the whole family has houses that are owned by the same real estate corporation. The beauty of the trust or corp for them is that if any of them die the house is a corporate asset and there are no taxes to an estate. I suggested that if they had a fight they would get kicked out of their house and I guess the legal stuff prevents that.

Wow, on a whole lot of levels that is a very sad clip. 1. Kim is in full blown addiction. She is using. When her children see this they will know she is using again. This is what an addict looks like. This is what an addict sounds like. It is so much easier to think of an addict as someone zoned out and unable to talk. Someone in rags with a sign about working for food. But let me tell you there are addiction counselors watching this clip and nodding. It's very sad. 2. If Kim is cutting off Kyle because Kyle won't protect her fucking dog then she is just as nasty and ugly as I thought. Your dog Kim, your dog. 3. And the lawyers for the family friend have downloaded this clip and licking their lips. Kim has absolutely no credibility in that case anymore. 4. Andy just mentally canceled Kim's contract because 1 + 2 +3 = a liability he does not want.

Absolutely, unless the pre-nup precludes him from profit.