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If only the show would hire an 'Improve Ron's Writing' Coordinator. That would be money well invested. I'd rather see them end up with an STD instead of babies...no way is Manwhore Alex not loaded with them. Realism, Ron, realism damn it. Ken and Ron have said that we won't see the stuff filmed for Peacock till Jan/Feb. I think it's far more likely NBC saw what was filmed for this Fall that was originally planned for Network, shook their heads, and made a much easier decision.

In most instances, I'd say no, but being possessed by the devil actually improved Allie's character significantly. I suppose they could get around the consent issue by simply having Allie post-possession begin to transition to a bad girl where she kept a lot of the Allie-Devil persona. It would make more sense than all the recasts they do where they notably change a character's personality. LA can pull it off, so really it was Ron's mistake not making her this was from get go instead of the wishy-washy mess Allie tends to be. Plus her and Evan had chemistry together. I'll admit, I've seen very few episodes since the move to Peacock, but I suspect normal bland Allie in a threesome is just going to nail home (no pun intended) her indecisive I-don't-know-what-I-want nature, much like how she couldn't decide between Trip and Chanel, rather than make her saucier.

A ball gag would be a must for any group sex that includes Julie. The more people around her, the harpier she becomes.

Ron's attempts at writing romance are as bad, if not worse, than his murder mysteries. So trying to pull off a three-some is bound to be as cheesy as Sonny's porn-stache. To even begin to make it non-repulsive, he'd need three actors/actresses with intense chemistry between them all. He doesn't even have a normal two-some couple like that. Also, if he was going to attempt this, it would have been better when Allie was the devil (and actually had a personality) and when he could have used Evan instead of Alex. Bring back the origional Chanel actress, and he might have pulled it off.

Fall Breaks are very common at colleges and universities, usually falling about the 2nd or 3rd weekend (plus the following Monday and Tuesday) of October. C&E seem to want to live that kind of lifestyle. Too bad they got married and had kids instead of being normal late teens/20 year olds. They obviously weren't ready for the responsibilities. Carlin also reminds me of an old Hole song (out around the time of my own college days.) The lines goes, "When they get what they want, then they never want it again." This seems to be true for all the things Carlin just has to have and have it in the moments or she whines--new baby, new house. Once she has it, she quickly loses interest. Fine if that's just a new pair of shoes, but these fundies brainwash them into "wants" that are above and beyond their maturity level.

I still think they secretly selfie sex in front of it. Give it time and someone's footage will be released....probably Carlin on "accident" for views. Evan weekly recap title: Caught on Film....Oh Shit, it's us getting freaky!

I can't stand KdP as Eve. She should have just played a new character because she doesn't look, talk, or act anything like Eve. Agree too that Eve and Nick were a good damaged pair together. A little dark romance-ish but they had chemistry together and it drew you in, unlike most of the couples today.

I kinda figured MTW would never come back. Moved on to bigger and better things. He was on something (forget what) my hubs and I watching one night some time back. When MTW came on screen, my hubs called out, "The Pretender!" To which I countered, "Mike Horton!" The kids just looked at us both totally lost. lol

It was probably a hint for some foolish leg-humper to feel sorry for them and gift them one.

IMO, Mike was an interesting character in the 80s when played by Michael T. Weiss. (He's really the only Mike in my book.) He played him as a fun loving, joking guy who had a great heart. Had good chemistry with many characters. RC's Mike is dull, somber, and boring. He should probably hang out with Eric.

ROTFLMAO And does that make Chad Jay? 😁

I haven't seen the episode yet, but I might have to watch it just for the scene of Clyde sticking it to Abs (no pun intended) over her role in Ben Goes Psycho. Back when KM played the role, I'd have paid good money to see someone....anyone stab Abs on purpose. I could buy Abigail thinking she could stand up to him, question him, and antagonize him. She behaved similarly to Kristin on Tasty Chicken Island. She always has been full of herself.

Yep, no interest. I've seen about 3 episodes and did a lot of skipping. The storylines all suck and the fall preview didn't look appealing either so nothing to look forward to. Alex is awful; Abigail's "murder mystery" was an epic fail; NuStephanie acts like a brat; and I've always hated Zander and Nicole so I'd never tune in for them. At this point, I think I'm just going to tune in for Orpheus's scenes as he's about the only character I root for and that's mainly because I liked him in the past and he's still smarter than the current idiot Salemites.

I'm starting to think NBC saw what they'd filmed for September, shook their heads, and went, "Oh yeah, this is totally moving to Peacock."

As long as she doesn't puke on the floor, I'm fine with Gwen. There are plenty of people on this show who either annoy or bore me far more.

It would be funny if the judge heard Clyde's defense, "Your honor, just look at that porn 'stashe. It drove me to insanity." Case dismissed. She's really screwed if she gets a stomach ulcer. Kayla will pass out before properly treating it. Oh brother! Clyde wears vanilla cologne. Of course he does.

This! It's like Ron's writing style and it sucks. Totally screams 'I'd fail a creative writing class if I took one.' He has no handle on pacing. I also thought the court resolution was poorly executed. Skipping over the scene of the judge's verdict to show a flashback was just choppy and anti-climatic. Didn't see today's yet so does it just look (red herring) like he's the killer or we've been shown he is? What happened to the video footage that cleared him? My gawd Ron really does supremely suck at writing mysteries. The Writing Rom: Ron: "I don't know what else to write for Clyde and JR is reoccurring and won't be around for a while so I've decided he will be Abigails's murderer." Writing Assistant: "But sir, you could just have him go back to jail for EJ's shooting. You never legally resolved that loose thread, remember." Ron: "Don't be silly. That would make sense and I need a big reveal that makes none." To RoJohn or Orpheus? I don't recall those hints.

I've wondered that too. There were small hints of something more between them in those island scenes. Had DH re-signed I wonder if she'd have gotten her own "Stockholm Syndrome" and things would have gone differently. Would certainly change their dynamics in scenes today. Finally found the clip I've been searching for. https://youtu.be/b-z3VI9Q0d4 Around the 8-10 min. mark you can see how calm and cool he was while being so menacing too. Of course, the background music was a lot better then as well.

Sad, but so true. Back then storylines had so many facets that brought together so many different characters without feeling forced. The stories were layered and so were the characters. Now they are too often one dimensional or just plain annoying. Stockholm was the storyline that introduced him. As Pearsons80 said, it was just one part (the ending part) of a long story arc. After they returned to Salem, he continued his quest to punish Roman for several more months. DH was filming another show so they worked around that by having him kidnap her via faking her death. The result though was some good scenes between DH and GD that surprisingly showed a softer side to Orpheus like this clip: As for today's episode... I guess we're supposed to see Kayla as the dedicated only doctor of Salem working through a deadly illness, but I just wanted her to slap a mask on her face rather than sneezing and coughing all over the place and then call Sarah and tell her to get her ass back to work and fill in for her! Non-contagious or not, who wants a physician who passes out mid-sentence!

Yes, Orpheus's character has always been cool, composed, calculating, and nonchalant even in the face of madness. When they were in Stockholm in the mid '80s, RoJohn/Steve/Kayla/Hope crew thought they had him locked/trapped in a storm drain, he just stood there and laughed as water rained down on him. There's also a great creepy/dramatic scene some months later when he has a hold of his siter-in-law. He very calmly but very coldly threatens to murder her and Roman's whole family without raising his voice. So I'd say Ron has at least got that part of his characterization right, but the odds are it's probably more GD remembering how to play him. He could pull off some good scenes. Ron's mistake in writing Orpheus though seem to be how many times in recent years he's gotten caught. 80s Orpheus always had an escape plan that threw his adversaries for a loop.

She didn't leave the room that we've been shown...yet. But this was the night of a half dozen or more visitors who all managed to bypass security and cameras. (At least Li knows alternate ways in.) Whoever killed her, I'm sure we'll get a completely new scene of their interaction like we did with the one between her and Gwen, who obviously interrupted her last news draft.

I think it might be Li too. Might actually make sense if Abigail came upon Rolf's lab that Li was looking after at that point, she saw Stefan, he followed her back upstairs trying to convince her to stay quiet, they struggled, and he grabbed the knife. I think Craig is just a red herring.

George DelHoyo does a great job playing Orpheus. I've always been a fan of that character. What grates me is that it seems like Ron actually went back and watched the old stuff (or maybe he just made his assistant do it; there's been enough details (i.e. hokey exposition) to suggest someone has recently); and yet he couldn't capture what made the Stockholm stuff great back in the day. If anything, he's just showing what a subpar writer (and possibly viewer) he really is. Back then, Orpheus's target and focus was Roman for killing his wife. He never really had a vendetta against Steve and Kayla; he only did things against them when they were in his way (Steve's tattoo clue for the bonds, Kayla accidentally walking into Steve's dumpy apartment at the wrong time, etc.) But then the stories were developed and complex enough that those things happened organically; they didn't need to be forced or contrived like they are now. A better storyline using the dynamics of all those characters (Orpheus, John, Steve, etc.) today would have been to create an old ISA case that required all their help. Something from back when Orpheus was still an agent (pre his wife's death) that John and Steve had to work with him while not trusting him and while Orpheus had his own agenda too. It would sort-of mimic the way in '86 they had to revisit a '79 case, but not just rip it off. This is where Ron fails and become Re-Run Ron with his stories. He's like a student in English class who can't figure out how to use the canonical and classical literature to inspire his own story/work; he just plagiarizes it. Joe was also in the second Jaws movie. Kinda funny because he's Sheriff Brody's antagonist in town as the one of the town council members who, of course, opposes closing the beach and also has a thing for Brody's wife.

Because they didn't pick up whatever virus Carlin and Evan's kids were battling while in NJ so they came to TN for a second try??? Zade looks like he's about to be smothered by Carlin's exploding closet in the first photo, and the caption on the caption to the second photo should read 'Five Fundie Women Embrace Patriarchy: Women Owned Businesses That Pretend to be Run By Their Men'

Based off the Fall preview where Jada is seen fainting, I wouldn't be surprised she turns up pregnant. Would also explain why Ron rushed them into bed so fast.