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Also was Rachel in this episode? At any rate it was nice to see Gina being the person the guest choreographer would cast. nevermind I rewatched and saw Rachel

Does anyone else feel that Ava has a bit of a smug attitude? I don’t think she grasps how badly she did going from the top to the bottom last episode. She seems to think it was a bit of a joke rather than being professional when Kelli called her out and asked what she had eaten.

I think she says they mostly need to change the way they appear on the screen. She acknowledges the cheerleaders aren’t going anywhere.

I haven’t seen anything about the Mavs dancers. I didn’t read anything in her article as being a feminist crusade. Guess we just see it differently.

I haven’t watched at all this season and I haven’t missed it. Last season killed any interest I had - and I had watched every year before. i agree with the writer saying the uniform is outdated. We’ve all said that- they look frozen in time, not iconic. They could at least update them. I agree with her too that displaying the girls for perverts to photograph on a huge screen could be reconsidered. I didn’t like the way the screen became “in some ways, the only judge”as Charlotte said one time. The way a girl looks on the screen at tryouts can get her cut despite her being a great addition to the team. I wouldn’t mind if they were more respectful about showing the girls bodies on the screen. I didn’t read her article anywhere saying women can’t be sexy. She’s talking about exploitation of these girls and the team’s denial that it happens. She doesn’t say anything negative about the girls at all.

Like you said she’s young and immature. I thought the issue with her was the obvious special treatment she received and better dancers being cut before her. Veterans have been called out and cut for falling out of pirouettes. She got “ bless her heart.” As for how much she was featured, the editors loved making her look ridiculous. I’m not sure that she should want that treatment again. I found her to be spoiled and entitled. Other girls her age have been on the show and not had her obnoxious personality of pushing to the front, etc. Even that wouldn’t be quite so bad if she wasn’t, as you said, a mediocre dancer.

Victoria won’t stick to a 90 day strict diet. She’s not capable of it and my guess is that she like many people uses food to deal with stress. She needs those milkshakes! I doubt they learned anything from last year. I feel they blamed Kelli. My sad assessment is that Victoria will never move outside her comfort zone and her super controlling mom won’t allow her, even if she wants to do so. It’s hard to tell how much Victoria does just to please her Mom and how much she does for her own self.

I’m going to miss Lacey. She had an appeal from the firstseason when she kicked herself in the nose. I have just always liked her and I too have enjoyed watching her grow. She was 18 when she auditioned right? If so she’s one of the few arguments in favor of keeping the age limit at 18.

My opinion about Angela was that she was rightfully disappointed with not making show group. Was she assuming too much ? Yes, but her reaction was understandable. It was mean and petty to call her out for having a bad day and embarrass her on the show. I have issues with the lack of support they give girls and veterans instead of helping them recover they get berated for feeling down like a normal person. Then they act like they don’t want to “break a girl’s spirit.” I understand the girls shouldn’t let it show in their performance but I feel there are more positive and less abusive ways to address a girl who is having a bad night. Even more so when it’s a veteran who has been a solid, if not stellar, team member.

I have an overwhelming urge to call this year’s training camp the traveling circus or maybe the Texas circus. Other ideas for the initials TC? tearful cuts is lame

You can still have the same experiences but it’s definitely become more upscale in the past 10 years. The gorgeous outdoors and the lake remain the same. There is a lot of tradition there and they are celebrating the 150th anniversary this year. It was never the same as shown at the Borscht Belt resorts in the sense of everyone joining in group activities.

Mohonk has changed dramatically since then. It has a world class spa now with an indoor pool, bar/lounge and tv rooms for watching- though not in rooms. Air conditioning too. Ice skating rink as well with a massive stone fire place. Still primarily focuses on outdoors and nature. It an amazing spot and possibly my favorite place to go outside of NYC. It’s all inclusive so all meals, tips and almost all activities are included as well as children’s activities. also Mohonk was founded by the Smiley brothers who were Quakers. It was decidedly different from the Borscht Belt Jewish resorts but many of the outdoor things were probably the same.

Oh I forgot - everything about Chelsea getting cut- to the girls in the parking lot “The fatties, the fatties are still on the team.” to Kelli that night “my friends were hurting and I just wanted them to know we were going to be ok.” Kelli “bs” next practice - Kitty thinks Chelsea is “pissy” and Chelsea is shown dancing like a clunky kindergartener wearing their shoes on the wrong feet to Kelli the next night ”I just want to be a good veteran. I can’t begin to tell you how much this team has changed my life in just one year.I wanted to tell you face to face.” Kelli -“thanks. We’ve made the decision to release you from the team.” Chelsea- “I can’t have one more chance.” Kelli-“ the decision is final...”

“My paper is blank. I have no names on my paper.” - something like that - that was my favorite squad reveal Malena’s meltdown was epic in a sad way. Jasmine getting up after falling and then singing the national anthem perfectly.

I’m pretty sure that was “I’m a stripper. I’m a slut.” I think it was Christina. i remember #grandmamoses to Pittsburgh Shannon and the bitchy girl from the old salon who said “she couldn’t get the look.” Shannon is in reality gorgeous. The girl from the salon was a terrible judge. My favorite is when the weather guy was saying Victoria dances out of control and got the death stares from the group. Charlotte to Kelli “what are you feeding these veterans in the off season.”

But Kelli told her she didn’t see any reason why she might not make the team. It was when Malena told them she was quitting her job.

Does anyone think Malena was trying to get screen time by her actions because she came across as mentally unstable? Or maybe that’s just her real self? I hope she doesn’t return. I felt she was used by Kelli and the show but they didn’t expect the complete breakdown she had when cut. Maybe she’s just very used to always getting what she wants? I don’t think she can ever make the team with her memory issues, possibly a psychologist or cognitive therapist could help her. I don’t understand why she would want to come back but a lack of self awareness could easily be the reason.

It reminded me of a clown.

Because it was obvious she was the person to be cut and had been mentioned as the best cut by a couple of people including Kashara because of her attitude. Kelli would hurt team morale even more by cutting people better than Victoria while keeping Victoria on the team. She would confirm the favoritism that she ended up confirming anyway. So in my view she was protecting victoria from even more negativity.

Add me to the people that hope Malena has moved on. Her nervous breakdown at her cut should be enough for them to keep her away from the team. I also felt she was used, but I don’t think their intention was to trigger a complete collapse. She was way too intense.

I’m a little sorry the season is over. I hope any veteran close to being cut would retire. There are always a couple that don’t. If only a handful of vets retire, I expect tryouts will be a real fight. I’m hoping that they get the same type of strong candidates that they did last year. The show is better when the girls are more talented. I never completely bought the line that it was so hard last year because I felt they were protecting Victoria by not cutting people who were obviously better. Overall, the rookies were a better caliber of learning the dances quickly - except the one girl who couldn’t remember anything but quit her job for the team. Melina, I think was her name. I prefer them learn quickly and look solid on the field to watching the clueless girls continue to make mistakes through the entire series only to be cut at the end.

I think Charlotte would notice and remember mistakes as would Kelli and Judy obviously. Their standard is extremely high for making the squad and focuses a good deal on how an individual girl will look at any time on the 60 yard score board. They don’t expect the average fan to notice or care about minor errors, but they notice and they care.

When it comes to the girls i have always felt that for the most part we talking about them as characters on a tv show that they willingly participate in filming. I’m sure all of the girls have friends or acquaintances who could post about how wonderful they are in real life. Viewers only know what the show tells us - like how uninformed the girl who didn’t know about “#metoo” and got unceremoniously kicked to the curb. How would we know that otherwise? We form our impressions from the edit. Thats what happens when you watch and comment on characters on a reality tv show.

As I recall from the show it’s Miss Kitty who was calling the girls huge. It was Kelli nagging and threatening girls who had gained 8 whole pounds. My judgement of them is based on the standards the judges and the show has created, not my own. My personal opinion is that focusing so much on weight and size is actively harmful and destructive to the girls. I felt it was a mistake from the first season I saw for them to focus so excessively on weight. A girls weight should not be a storyline. Her fitness and dancing, yes. My view is no girl should have to have her weight judged and shamed on national tv. But, if the show is going to have Kelli call in for weight and humiliate gorgeous veterans who have performed brilliantly over the years, I’m going to call BS on the show and Ms Kitty giving Victoria “respect and time to lose the weight.” I’m only reflecting the DCC own standards and policies back to them. I have no knowledge of their personal lives. I doubt I would have anything in common with them. They are in a real sense contestants on a highly contrived reality show the same as any survivor or big brother contestant. The only difference is they are going for a very public and media intense job that continues after the show ends. Edit to add: I don’t follow any of them or the team on any social media. I only see what happens to be posted here. I’m certainly not judging them on their social media posts. (Except that comment about brides wear white to show they are virgins, or whatever idiotic, judgemental thing JennA. said. But I saw that here.)

I’m very excited about this group of judges. I think they will be exacting but entertaining.