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YMMV but I still don't think it is a big deal or that means she has been "a lot of drama". Amy's crying about the waltz came in like Week 5 of the show and she was crying over frustration of what her body could not do. Danica had the tears going in Week 2. And I'm sorry, I cannot begrudge someone like Amy who has had some really shitty stuff thrown at her, that most people will never experience, having one moment of feeling sorry for herself and being angry at the things she physically cannot do anymore versus Danica who is more than capable, having a cry-fest because of what I don't even really remember to be honest. Yeah others may not be bringing the tears but imo, Amy's crying twice is no worse or more repetitive than Candace who is a head case and goes on about her nerves every week, or Danica who has repeated multiple times about how she wants to bring out her womanly sexiness and not be girlish anymore even though she's posed for the cover of Maxim or Maks and Meryl's creepy, weird flirtations every week. Like I said about the only couple not bringing any drama or being repetitive in their rehearsal packages, is Charlie and Sharna and I guess he could get added to that after expressing his frustrations this week about not getting all 10's.

I honestly didn't think Amy's rehearsal package was that big of a deal. They were rehearsing the "dance of love" (hate that stupid expression) and her frustration with not getting the steps mixed with whatever tension/issues she was having in her relationship. She didn't badmouth her boyfriend, call him names, she just said the last year and a half (presumably because of all the training for the Olympics and now DWTS) has been difficult, especially with her schedule and them not spending as much time together. The moment lasted all of a few seconds and then she wiped her eyes and got back to learning the dance. And I especially disagree with the idea that she was playing victim and she's "always" doing this in her packages or it's normal or whatever else. Amy has ever only expressed frustration once before and that was when she physically couldn't get her body to do what she wanted it to do in the waltz. Her and Derek's rehearsal packages have actually been some of the more drama-free ones along with Charlie/Sharna (well except for this week with his stressing about getting all 10's) and Val and Danica and even Danica has shed tears. James and Peta's are relatively drama free but we always have to hear about their chemistry/heat or whatever, Maks and Meryl always have their creepy, awkward flirtations, Candace is a head case and who did I forget?

Well what I got from the conversation was that nutty shippers were calling him that at first when they didn't want to accept that Chris had a boyfriend so it was an excuse for why there was this guy hanging around him so much. But then some people started stating he was both - Chris' boyfriend and his assistant - because he seemed to be literally everywhere. And that's where I got confused because for a moment I thought that was the case and I even started thinking that that probably wasn't wise in terms of power imbalance, etc. Until someone said that no, he apparently has a separate job and he's just Chris' boyfriend, period.

Oh if the spoiler pictures I've seen and those vague comments Murphy was making about the show not necessarily being in NY next season and the summary for the final episode is anything to go by, they are DEFINITELY having Rachel move to LA to do a show based on Glee Club. I imagine they'll call in Sing per The New Normal. Pretty much... In fairness about the assistant thing, I stumbled on a conversation about Chris a month or so ago and didn't realize people were being sarcastic and really thought his boyfriend was his boyfriend/assistant. What convinced me they were being serious were screen caps posted of his boyfriend being an extra in a few Kurt/Blaine NYADA scenes and shots of him walking behind Chris while on set from one location spot to another. It just seemed kind of strange for him to be there that much. So I foolishly thought the comments were serious and the sarcasm went right over my head until some literally spelled out that no, his boyfriend is just his boyfriend, no assistant added in.

I didn't notice any looks and I'm going to choose to believe none existed because if there were I'd have to roll my eyes so far back in my head, they may be lodged there and think Meryl is getting as pathetic as Maks in their little showmance. It was Candace - married, mother of three who is worried about showing too much skin because of her faith and the fact that she is a wife and a mom, Candace. What the hell does Maks playfully touching her and trying to get her out of her shell for a few minutes even matter? Amy's not winning this thing. Derek's good, but he's not that good. I can see her outlasting Danica and Candace and with regards to the latter, I personally think she has been the better dancer. But she's not going to win this thing. Although, the sheer joy at seeing Maks' head explode if he somehow loses this thing when he was gifted the ringerest female since Nicole Scherzinger, and to Derek no less, would be worthwhile. But Amy's not winning. If Meryl doesn't win, Charlie will sneak in and take it. Unfortunately, Sharna's choreography hasn't been wowing this season (not that I think Maks' is much better but Meryl is doing a great job selling what he's giving her) and I don't know if she can pull the Derek move of blowing away the others in the Freestyle and winning with that. But it is certainly possible. The answer to the bolded is no. Peta's first "showmance" was only last season with Brant. Prior to that she'd only had married/engaged celebrities. Her first celebrity was Ron Artest and yeah, no. Then she was paired with Donald Driver who was married and she and his wife were very friendly. Then she had Gilles Marini who was also married and like with Donald, she and Gilles' wife were friendly. Then she had Sean Lowe who was engaged and then she had Brant and this season James. As also noted, with some of these she was also still with Damian and then later with Maks. So no, Peta's wearing skimpy costumes does not automatically equate to sleeping with every celebrity she's paired up with. I'd say that's more Maks' forte or at least his hook-up count is much, much higher than hers. Hell let's see - right now, he has two ex-girlfriends on the show with him (Erin and Peta) while he's in a new showmance with Meryl and before she and Sean got eliminated, there was also Karina, his ex-fiance.

Wait, there are actually people who believe this? What the hell am I saying, there are people who think Darren and Chris are a thing and secretly madly in love even though you know, Darren's straight, they're both in relationships and more importantly those two come across as two people who simply work together and nothing more. You know, I'm not really superstitious or anything but it really does feel like Cory's death was like the beginning of a massive black cloud that just engulfed the show. Without question that whole "fire most of the cast and bring random newbies no one gives a shit about" hurt the show and Season 4 was by no means great or even really good. But there was still some kind of life, small as it was in the show. I don't even know what to call what's going on now. Cory died and I think a lot of fans who loved him and loved Finn checked out because it was probably just too weird and hard for them. And it's funny, I was never the biggest Finn fan but I really do think his character left a massive gaping hole in the show. And then I don't know maybe if that also affected the cast, understandably, they knew him personally but that's when they all just started to seem checked out. And now all this behind the scenes stuff with Naya and whether or not she and Lea hate each other. And then for whatever reason they've decided to stop even trying to pretend the show really isn't all about Rachel and seem to be pulling this "straight out of Lea's" life thing that yeah while great for her fans, what about the people who aren't in love with Rachel? I don't dislike Rachel but again, what exactly am I supposed to care about anymore with her? From NYADA to hit on Broadway to Hollywood - like what is there left to root for? None of the characters are even a little interesting anymore, the Klaine fans who were once a formidable bunch have all but checked out, the comments about Chris and Darren seeming downright awkward and pained in scenes with each other are getting louder and louder on damn near every media tool, discussion forum, poor Kevin McHale, Amber Riley and Chord are kind of just there. It's just really all very sad. And yeah I've said it before but I can see Glee being used in some Film/TV Studies class years later as a case study of how the creators of a hit show can very quickly and epicly just fuck up their brand.

Yeah they're combined but I can still see Candace being eliminated or even Danica really.

On a more important note, why was Dr. Berman helping Candace with her live performance anxiety issues and why was she being referred to as a sports psychologist? I thought she was a relationship counselor or at least she plays one on VH-1. I mean I always figured all these television "doctors" are quacks but way to really lift the veil on that one.

I forgot to mention that I too enjoyed Ricky Martin. I was actually surprised at some of the reactions last week to his being announced as the guest judge. I knew he'd if nothing else, not sound completely brainless and have nothing interesting to say like RedFoo and Ricky is a performer - he may not know exact ballroom technique (but hell Carrie Ann is there and neither does she) but knows how to entertain, how to perform and draw a crowd in and would likely be able to recognize that in others. So I figured he'd be a decent guest judge. I thought it was also cool that he gave both teams a 10 because they were dancing to his song. I also saw Juan Pablo poking his head around and desperately trying to get on camera all night. Ah Juan Pablo, still hoping for that call from DWTS I see. Keep dreaming dude. With Andi's season coming which they were already promoting heavily tonight, they'll have a whole new batch of people to pick from. That ship has sailed - thank goodness.

So I guess along with Latin Night, the theme for tonight was also, "Night of the Bad Hair and Bad Outfits". Between that hot mess Danica was wearing, Meryl's hair, Nene's outfit, Peta's outfit and Team Vida's outfits, yeah just a whole lot of bad all around. Which speaking of bad hair, I guess someone had an honest conversation with Carrie Ann about how she really looks because tonight was the most toned down I've seen her in many seasons - the hair, makeup, dress was all very demure. I guess she got over whatever drug she was on last week that made her think that thing in her hair was a good idea. I didn't really care about the team dances because the outcome was so obvious it was just an utter waste of time. Also Val, I like you dude but shut it with that Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, etc. crap. Derek and Mark should have snarked about being the only ones who've actually won the Mirror Ball. I just found the arrogance in that clip very off-putting and especially interesting coming from the two who've actually never even won the damn competition. Meanwhile I agreed with Len about Maks and Meryl's dance. It was okay but I definitely thought it was hectic in parts and because it was, it caused some of the tricks to look sloppy. Also, I'm sorry but Meryl is not the least bit sexy to me and no amount of hip grinding is going to change that. It probably has to do with the fact that she has the body of a pre-pubescent boy. Meanwhile Charlie ol' boy, may be time to pull out the showmance with Sharna (kidding...) But yeah, he needs to pull out something outstanding next week because right now he's getting outscored by James and that's just wrong on so many levels. Speaking of James, ah Peta girl, I want to defend you because I do think some of the slut-shaming and name-calling you get is a little out of control but seriously...in your underwear, really? And then that wasn't enough you had to have the slow strip-tease with James' shirt too...really? Missed Amy and Derek so no comment on their rumba and don't care about Nene so didn't watch. Plus she got voted out anyway so it doesn't matter.

Wow, I had to double-check to see if I had written the above and didn't remember. This is so me to the tee. I too cannot stand Damon and Elena and for sure don't want Elena's stank ass anywhere near Stefan again. I have always said I am not a fan of triangles and this one is a perfect example of why. It's usually just nasty and often makes if not all, but most of the characters look bad. Like I'm sorry, no one's saying it clearly on the show because Elena is still supposed to be the Mary Sue heroine everyone loves and is willing to die for but the girl has now slept with two brothers. More than that she jumped on the other brother mere minutes after breaking up with the other and more importantly she is having all her furniture breaking sex with the other brother in the SAME DAMN HOUSE she was sleeping with the other one. It is straight up nasty. No matter how much the show sells it as her just being so madly in love with both at different points. So I completely agree with you that Stefan damn sure deserves better. But no, no matter how much the ratings dip and people complain about the tired, repetitive storylines, Plec and company refuse to truly let that shit go. I have being saying since they made the decision to have Elena be with Damon that it is just bullshit that they can't give Stefan a new love interest. Like it would be so hard to bring someone in for one season and just kill her like they do everyone not part of the Mystic Falls gang when they need Stefan to go back to being all about Elena. But for crying out loud, allow the guy a chance to move the hell on and have a life, other than basically hanging around getting thrown underwater, locked in a chest or having his brain fried. And this is why I know they'll never make him and Caroline happen or if they do it will be to quickly destroy it because Caroline is too much of a threat - in the sense that she's a regular, well liked character and viewers might actually start to support and root for the pairing. And can't have that because everything has to be about Elena and everyone has to love Elena like her vagina has some magical power that decrees no one is allowed to move on after they've experienced it. Even Matt was holding on for awhile after she moved on to Stefan.

So if Damon chooses to go off and start killing people and being his usual asshole self when he finds out about Enzo it will be Stefan's fault for not telling him immediately? Damon holds no responsibility here at all for his own actions? Also, I have never gotten the impression that Damon's main reason for going off the rails is due to feeling controlled. That's why Damon snapped Jeremy's neck the first time? Because he felt controlled when Elena very nicely and very gently told him she cared about him as a friend but she couldn't give him more than that and loved his brother? And he felt controlled again when Katherine as Elena broke up with him? Really, that's why he murdered Aaron and tried to kill Jeremy? That sounds like a lot of victim blaming in my opinion and again, has Damon done anything that is all on Damon or is it always the fault of his horrible brother who makes him feel not good enough?

Answering in Damon thread...

Except the counter to that is that Damon just proved how impulsive he is only a few episodes ago where Elena breaking up with him had him quickly murdering Aaron and threatening Jeremy's life. So yeah, I don't know it is fair to say that others don't give him a chance and treat him like a baby - they do because Damon often acts like whiny child. That said, I am not critical of Stefan or even Damon in this. I'm critical of the writers who pulled this crap out of their asses. Like I said, the whole trying to sell the viewer on this epic friendship Damon and Enzo supposedly had was beyond eye-roll inducing. And the only purpose Stefan telling Elena serves imo, is so they can act weird around Damon with this "secret" between them causing his raging insecurities to rear its head about what Stefan and Elena could possibly be sharing. And so once again, everything comes around to the triangle of suck that will not die.

It just occurred to me what else bothered me about this episode. Part of the reasoning for not telling Damon that Enzo is dead is because apparently Damon has had such a "hard year". Um wait a second - isn't Stefan the one who was locked in a box by a nutty vampire from like 2000 years ago and left to drown over and over while Damon and Elena, per Elena, had the "summer of their life"? And isn't he the one who just two episodes ago was getting his brain fried over and over in exchange for saving Damon and Elena but Damon's had a hard year? Oh I forget he and Elena broke up (oh the tragedy and we know his delicate heart can't handle that). But the most ridiculous part of this whole Damon can't know Stefan killed Enzo (which he really didn't but whatever) because they were supposedly bestest besties is that was it not the same Damon who with no provocation, murdered Lexie? You know, Stefan's best friend. And unlike this Johnny-come-lately Damon/Enzo best friendship, Lexie really was one of, if not the closest friend Stefan had and had been in his life for decades. Yet one more shitty thing Damon did that was just shrugged off and Stefan as is his habit, went right back to making excuses for him. Yet, somehow I'm supposed to believe Damon will have some right to be mad that one, Enzo killed his own damn self but even if Stefan had killed him, he would have done so while defending himself. Yeah okay, whatever writers.

I honestly had never even heard of Pure DWTS until I saw some comments about it over at TWOP and I've never visited there. The only place I ever discussed DWTS was TWOP. I venture to the ABC board once because I was actually looking for a video and yeah, I had to leave quickly. The discussions are very disorganized over there.

Honestly, I'm kind of just amused at this point. I guess I made the mistake of not falling in line with the "Derek is awful and the whole show is manipulated for him" and dared to make my argument on that point and apparently, well if Lockley's reason for banning me is true, some took offense and reported me for I'm really not sure what but honestly, it's like whatever. I get to not post for the one month they have left online - I'll think I'll live. I just think it was especially suspicious that I was just pretty much locked out of the entire board (seriously I can't even sign out) so I couldn't report this to anyone else. And again, this when I had never gotten any warning from Lockley. So I was supposed to know I was breaking rules without being told so and then apparently according to Lockley I was banned because it was clear " I would never change" even though again, I was never told or aware I was breaking the rules.

While yes a little ridiculous, I loved the excuse the writers used for why Caroline was not in the episode. That basically she saw Damon calling and didn't bother to answer. It's always heart-warming everytime the show reminds me how much Caroline hates Damon. Meanwhile, this episode felt way longer than an hour. I swear, half-way in when I looked at my watch and saw it was only 8:30, I was shocked because I was convinced it had been an hour already. Of course that probably had to do with so much of this feeling like a chore to get through. I don't know about anyone else, but I could give a flying fig about Enzo and his long lost love/past/history or whatever so yeah didn't actually care. I did love Stefan's mostly calm, "look I didn't kill your girlfriend nutty, so leave me the hell alone" attitude at the beginning. It was nice to have some reminder of Stefan/Damon's relationship sans the object of suck that is Elena between, with Damon admitting that Stefan was the thing he clung to at the Augustine prison and that he was bitter he was there for five years and Stefan never knew. That said, I never got why Damon was so pissed about that because hasn't it been a fact that Stefan and Damon were often on the outs throughout their 100 plus years existence and would go off, away from each other and do their own thing? It's not like they were the type of brothers who called everyday and checked up on each on each other every day. Of course it's not like this show's consistency has been too great lately and I will concede that yeah five years is a long time to not hear from someone. Poor Bonnie. Once again she's the sacrificial lamb. Still waiting for that to be Elena but sadly no, I have to see her continue to make her "sad" faces and whine about her horrible relationship. Such fun. But honestly, what truly made me roll my eyes so far back in my head it's amazing it's not still lodged there, is all this crap about Enzo and Damon's great friendship and why Stefan can't tell Damon Enzo is dead. Yes this would be the same Enzo Damon willingly left to burn to save himself after Enzo was the one who came up with the plan and helped Damon get strong enough to pull it off. Apparently they suddenly had this great, super amazing friendship that knowing he's dead might just send Damon back into "bad Damon"...whatever. This is as stupid as Elena's so-called amazing friendship with Aaron. Meanwhile, it is also ridiculous that Damon would be mad at Stefan for this because putting aside Enzo being the one who killed himself, even if Stefan had killed him, there was the little fact of Enzo trying to kill him and torturing him even before he turned off his humanity, not to mention his threatening to use Elena as well - the two people his so called best friend Damon loves and cares about - and then full on trying to kill Stefan after turning off his humanity. So what the hell difference would it have made if Stefan had killed him since he was defending himself. Oh but yes, he's apparently the greatest friend Damon ever had and Damon's delicate feelings can't handle the truth of his being dead. Whatever.

I don't understand how it was misleading. Katherine didn't initially plan on disappearing. She just managed to manipulate one of the people who were going to throw her into the cave, to let her go and so managed to escape. But her plan was to have both Stefan and Damon become vampires and basically have them both to herself for as long as she desired. But more than that, Katherine didn't hide her selfish/manipulative nature from Damon even before she vanished for a number of years. While she was mind controlling Stefan to be okay with her being a vampire, feeding on his blood and sleeping with both him and Damon, Damon knew all that was happening and was fine with it. So I don't buy that he was just so in love and she manipulated him. He could see what she was willing to do with his brother and to his brother and instead of recognizing that this is probably not the kind of woman who will madly be in love with him, he foolishly told himself that somehow it meant their love was so much stronger because unlike Stefan he didn't need to be mind controlled. The situation with Katherine is another one of the reasons I can never like Damon - nothing is ever his fault. Katherine manipulated him, it's all part of his vampire nature, Stefan is mean to him, he's always second best to Stefan, etc. etc. Nothing is simply that he makes or made a shitty choice and is suffering for it.

So this is interesting. Apparently Lockley just banned me from TWOP to the point that I can't even view the forums. Apparently the reason is because and I quote "You are incredibly repetitive and confrontational in DWTS and have racked up a ton of warning points. At this stage in the site's evolution i think it is counterproductive to continue to have to follow up on reports about you and monitor your behavior. You clearly are not going to change. Banned." What's funny about this, I never got one warning from Lockley EVER. Not one warning/note, anything informing me I was breaking the rules, none of my posts were ever edited, but apparently I supposedly wracked up tons of warning points I did not know existed. And every single thing is locked from me so of course I can't email anyone, make any complaint, can't even view the boards. And this is exactly why I refused to be fake and make a whole big show about the board closing. The board has it good points and most of it is the awesome posters who post there but there was just so much bullshit to put up with at times.

That's easy in my opinion, The Originals is in its first season while The Vampire Diaries is in its fifth season. It is the VERY RARE show that doesn't have its quality go down the longer it is on air. Because the writers are having to come up with new ideas, new storylines when they've already plowed through so many. For a show like The Originals, there is still so much room for new ideas because the show is still so new. I think the fact that this is the same writing team makes it more than likely that in a few seasons The Originals may start having some of the same issues The Vampire Diaries are having right now. I will say that I think one other key factor that's hurting Vampire Diaries is the focus on that triangle. Plec and company, no matter the ratings and viewer complaints, stubbornly refuse to let the triangle go or put a strong pause on it. They put Elena with Damon but refuse to make Stefan move on and have any genuine relationship. I really think it's this heavy emphasis on romance, particularly Elena's love life that's hurting the show and why it's making the show feel so stale and repetitive. Because that storyline has been going on since Season One.

Yeah I think there was one or two things stated that never happened. But judging by shots of the cast filming, script pages and all I'd say they clearly are legitimate on some level but perhaps storylines just get changed and re-written.

And like I said, I call bullshit on the whole "Damon is just a real vampire, embracing being who he is..." If that were the truth, then Damon would still be early S1 Damon who basically went around torturing just about everyone including Stefan himself and of course using Caroline's body as his own personal blow up doll. And again if he's all about just being true to who he is, why didn't he ever try to kill Elena when she was the one hurting his poor woobie feelings? I mean he's a real vampire right - their natural instinct and true nature is to feed on humans. It's only right. And like I said above, if who he really is, is this "true vampire" who really just wants to hurt people and be fine with it, then freaking man up and admit that and give no crap about it. Either way, I want him to shut the hell up and quit with the whiny ass tantrums that I don't give a crap about. I maintain that Damon's behavior has squat to do with embracing being a "true vampire" and instead the oh so obvious and cliche bullshit of the bad boy with the so called heart of gold. We're supposed to be moved by his deep desire to want to be good for only saint Elena. Except until he realized Katherine had duped his stupid ass for more than a 100 years, he was only obsessed with her. And I always have and will continue to disagree with the suggestion that Stefan doesn't want to accept who he really is and is fake or whatever else. Once again, Stefan is an addict with addict's compulsions on human blood. He has zero control of his actions and becomes completely unstable. Not wanting to be that out of control does not mean not being true to yourself. And yes in case it hasn't been obvious, I can't stand Damon but on a positive note, I'm more indifferent as opposed to loathing him like I loathe Elena. Damon doesn't feel good enough because he keeps getting involved with women who are also involved with his brother and basically being their second choice. Speaking of pathetic, let's talk about his being so pathetic for Katherine that he willingly wanted to become a vampire for her and willingly accepted her sleeping with his brother who she was mind-controlling to be okay with sleeping with them both. And then he wants to get all on his high horse to Katherine this season about how she ruined him. Seriously, once again, the idiot who WILLINGLY wanted to become a vampire. And now we're supposed to be moved everytime he feels insecure about Elena's feelings. Well gee that's kind of what happen when you pursue someone who is dating your brother, who kept repeatedly saying how much she loved him. Yeah he finally got her - it only took Stephan going Ripper, Elena dying and becoming a vampire. But truly he can have her because she is god awful. So Damon's not feeling good enough imo, is more of his whiny, man-pain that I'm supposed to find compelling except I just want him to take a giant cup of shut the hell up and get the hell over yourself.

Much of the spoilers sound pretty predictable and as much as I wished she was gone, especially with that stupid season finale hook-up, I knew Dani would be around particularly once she found Mike with his hands all bloodied. That's clearly going to be an issue. And like I said, I'm still expecting the season finale pregnancy bomb at which point I will finally give up the show. But that said, a couple of things that bugged me about these spoilers - that Lena/Timothy mess. I honestly can't even feel bad for Lena and instead just know I'm going to be annoyed at them because I'm sorry but the utter stupidity of picking someone you know personally to be a sperm donor when you have no plans for the father to be involved is just mind boggling. And then you go through the process without having any legal documents signed. So a part of me just feels like they deserve what's going to come. Meanwhile I need the show to effectively end the Anna mess because that character's just becoming like an annoying rash that keeps flaring up. One spoiler that threw me was Stef being concerned about Brandon with his hand, slowly parting from his family and his relationship with the new girl. Now the hand and pulling away from the family I get but shouldn't Stef be thrilled by Brandon developing a relationship with a girl his age and essentially moving on from the Callie mess? Unless Lou is some kind of juvenile delinquent which the spoilers don't seem to suggest at all.

*sigh* Why do I keep watching this show? Okay, so the traveler stuff was kind of interesting and Tyler having a traveler in him at the end was a cool surprise but everything else, just no. It's very hard to watch a show centered so heavily around a triangle when you hate the center of said triangle so much. I just cannot give a flying fig about Damon/Elena and I damn sure don't want Elena anywhere near Stefan. So every scene with either pairing was torture for me. Though I will say on a shallow note that Paul and Nina looked gorgeous in all the fantasy scenes - the lighting was amazing. And speaking of things I don't care about, Enzo and his search for his friend/long lost love/whatever..don't care. Other thing I don't care about, Damon's angst over Elena and Stefan's fantasies. Nope, sorry dude, I'm never going to feel sorry for you and your insecurities when you willingly chased after a girl who was with your brother. You know what they say, "if they cheat with you, they will cheat on you." Yeah she didn't cheat but the fact is, he's always going to second guess her feelings because she claimed to love his brother so much and he still managed to get her. So what's to stop the opposite from happening? And yeah, sorry, don't feel sorry and don't care. Meanwhile my eyes rolled back so far in my head at Stefan's line about how you can either be friends or in love with each other. Be more obvious there writers. Of course I would add that you can either be friends, in love or neither - especially when your entire relationship is a toxic, needy, whiny, pit of unhealthiness that is Damon and Elena. But hey, no one asked me.