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Came here to mention this- I caught that instantly (am deaf & use ASL) and was so happy that they showed that! :) :). Sad that Rob & Corey came in third due to navigation (as mentioned in above snippet of their interview. But happy with Greg & John winning. R/C and G/J were my two favorites. Lukewarm-ish on Joel & Garrett but good on them for 2nd place (the 'underdogs' angle was a bit too played up for me). This season was a good one. No teams that were utterly awful- either in actual task performance/navigation or personality- only mildly to moderately irritating (coughS&ALcough). As for Greg/John being well-off... yes they are in tech and likely pulling down six figure salaries but they both live in high cost of living cities and taxes will eat into the salaries as well. I say good on 'em- they can invest the million and retire early or help out others- whatever they decide. Oh and I definitely would love to walk on the Space Needle! My brother lived in Seattle for about 5 years- sadly I never got a chance to visit him but did visit a friend of mine who lives in Poulsbo (now) twice. Didn't do the Space Needle though (yet) due to $$$$.

Yep- years ago my father went to England for his antique car- as he had shipped it to get it 'refurbished' (an Alfa? I can picture it but can't quite remember the model ATM). He is left-handed and said the same; I believe he almost got himself in trouble at one point driving on the road and trying to make a turn. He grew up with manual transmissions well into adulthood so a challenge for him driving in the UK (even more so if he had driven his Alfa with steering wheel on the right!) What a great episode- F3 is great, can't remember the last time I liked all three teams! Rob/Corey still my top team but won't quibble if Greg/John or Joel/Garrett wins. Yep- I believe navigation hurt AL and Steve more than the Roadblocks did. What AL said at the mat "The worst feeling in the world"- I've heard other teams say the same though the worst one was that football player who REALLY lambasted TAR negatively. Freezing cold water? Whoooo. that wake me up in a hurry like Joel said Riverdance... Amazing to watch- I would still be there- terrible balance and I likely would not have been able to hear my tutor calling the steps on stage! (Hearing aids only amplify sound not clarify them). Corey and Anna Mai were so cute together :). Hurling looks really cool- seemed like a cross between baseball, lacrosse and field hockey! The recitation- Rob's was awesome- ASL is his primary language even if his speech is fairly good (with a 'deaf accent') so I am very sure there was an ASL interpreter behind the scenes interpreting in whispers to the judge what Rob was signing. It looked like most of the crowd was behind the racers so no way most would see Rob anyway (or understand him ASL is not the same as Irish (or British) sign language). Joel's dramatic pauses in trying to remember his was a bit nerve wracking! Gotta agree here- it sounded more like gentle ribbing/teasing more than anything as over the race they've never been unfriendly with any teams or spoke ill of anyone- other than "I wish they'd stop following us!" re Robbin/Chelsea and AL/Steve this episode. Looking forward to the final- Rob/Corey FTW ! with Greg/John my 2nd choice. To those wondering what Corey's instructor's name was, closed captions said Anna Mai.

Good lord I was worried for Steve, his face was so red and him holding his side while running. Amazed he hasn't passed out on a leg yet. I'm sure the TAR medical team is keeping an eye on him 🤞. Re Express Pass- I think in the moment Rob/Corey thought that taking it on the Roadblock was the better choice as they usually do Detours easily enough. They could have not known there would be an intermediary "task" (find the violinist)- bled a little time running completely around the building. Garrett/Joel were so sure they were either 4th or 3rd Maaaaybe 2nd- never expected 1st- that was fun to see. Meantime the wandering of the 3 other teams was a comedy of errors until they found someone with a phone to use google maps. Ashlie/Todd- bummer that they didn't make it (would rather have had them instead of Steve/AL) but despite some of the down/negative talk Ashlie was doing sounds like overall they enjoyed their time on the race (notably the skydiving for Ashlie). Greg/John- awesome as ever- loved when Greg was doing the roadblock and said after the first check failed- 'well time to debug it!' My final 3- Corey/Rob, John/Greg, Garrett/Joel. I hope that R/C wins though. And if S/AL do manage to squeeze in- 3rd place. I don't hate them per se just not a big fan of AL and worried for Steve- regardless of 'well he signed up for it!'; I do wonder if he felt that he could do it but didn't anticipate just how hard all that running etc was and what it was doing to his body. He's 54 (thought he was older than that?!) so that's partly why I'm a tad worried on just how winded he was.

LOL- that was one of my favorite moments of the ep- Rob and Corey arguing about who was best at Darts (not soccer). Playing Darts is a big thing in the deaf community- I used to be a part of a Deaf darts team when I lived in Colorado (still have the shirt too). Sad to see the Philly pair go :( but navigation - or lack of it- really burned them. No idea what happened fully since we only get snippets on screen but it seems like they handled the elimination with grace (the comment about the party being held already without them was memorable). Steve and Anna Leigh sure showed another side of themselves this episode- and not a pretty one. Still don't care for them though I like Steve a bit more. Greg and John continue to impress and I love them for the finale three. Rob and Corey- they're just amazing overall- I'd be on the ground crying with that Soccer Dart (Dart Soccer?) detour after a bunch of tries lol. They definitely stopped for a minute to see how they could improve their odds and it worked. (BTW- loved the silent laughter in the talking heads- visual communication at its finest lol). Garrett and Joel- kind of lukewarm with them though liked that they at least didn't melt down thinking they were last. Lena and Morgan- ooof... I feel like after the India (KF) leg they were more apt to be at each other throats. I'm terrible with directions and probably would have done the same thing that one of the sisters did turn right instead of left (I do that enough when I use google maps!) Robbin and Chelsea- eh...they seemed...I don't know like what others have said like they aren't enjoying it much though they seem enthused at the mat for a 2nd place finish(!!? was so sure they'd be lower down in the order) Todd and Ashlie- not much to say but they were smart to switch detours and Todd admitted that he wasn't quite thinking clearly regarding his wife's preference (and not doing well with the ball kicking). Malaina and Andrea- they were fun to watch even with the out of towners deal and I love that they barely bickered (maybe some)- their friendship is strong. Thems the breaks that they had such a bad leg- was sad they didn't get to enjoy the carnival and the horse-bike. My final three- Greg/John, Rob/Corey, toss up between Garrett/Joel, Lena/Morgan (even with all their bickering) and Todd/Ashlie. Chelsea/Robbin and Steve/Anna Leigh I'd like to see walk off into the sunset.

Coming here a bit late-- just wanted to comment on two things.. 1. No idea if Luke did or did not have an interpreter if he or his mom had to do a task apart from the other but if he did TAR likely kept the interpreter off screen. First time I've seen an interpreter shown (I wonder if TAR/CBS directly hired him and in past only hired 'terps on contract... ) 2. As already noted- no Rob is not mugging for the camera (on purpose or not)- Facial and body expression is a BIG part of ASL and visual communication with the Deaf. 3. Somebody noted that because Rob could voice, he may have lost his hearing as a child. Maybe but I've known quite a few Deaf people born deaf who could voice very well and very clearly (with or without Hearing aids/Cochlear implants)- me being one of them. Luke if i recall could voice somewhat but not as well. So not sure on Rob's background- it seems like he attended (and later work at) CA school for the Deaf at Riverside. And.. happy to see TAR back. So far most of the teams I like. Rob/Cory, Ian/Joe, Andrea/Malalia(sp?), John/Greg, Victor/Jocelyn. Rest I'm luke warm on for now. Don't care much for Todd or Ashleigh Anna Leigh (managed to mash Anna Leigh and Aslie together).

Coming way late to this (life and all lol but figure I'd comment anyway. Yes the actress that played Wilder is deaf...oooh didn't realize she made her mark in the Deaf West's production of Spring Awakening; Marlee Matlin (she was the doctor trying to convince Wilder to go for the Deaf School of Medicine job). On that note even though that school doesn't exist....yet- I hope it does some day- Can almost see either NTID or Gallaudet U adding that on lol. Sadly yes this is true. I grew up oral and went to Gallaudet (with a 6 week-ish crash course in ASL provided by Gallaudet the summer before freshman year). Many Deaf people also have treated the DeafBlind community badly (and still do to some extent); never really ran across seeing intellectually disabled people being discriminated again(tho I am positive it happens) but I can see autistic people being discriminated against by d/Deaf people. Honestly pretty much any group of people who are different including LGBT are 'less than' or 'sinning' (the LGBT one) in the eyes of some d/Deaf folks. I have hope that things are better now than in the 80s but currently racism is a hot button as it is with the rest of the US...

Yes there would have been an alternate interpreter available if for whatever reason Ben has to do something or at least has a day off/vacation. As for staff learning sign... maybe they did but they're not showing it in the show for some reason (They should) Source- I'm deaf and familiar with interpreters. Actually I'm a little surprised there isn't a team of interpreters as they do need to rotate every 2-3 hours to allow rest and prevent carpal tunnel syndrome. I'm no doctor or medical personnel so don't know what a day in the life of Dr. Wilder would actually be like in the (so-called) real world outside of tv shows. Ahh the superpower of reading lips (and I'm surprised the deaf actor went along with it). She can read lips yes but most times it's a supplemental aid- kind of like a tool... Hearing aids/Cochlear implants aren't magic so some deaf lipread, sign and write (paper or phone). At least Dr Wilder was smart enough to write on the wall (graffiti!..) in the stairwell. Not sure why they didn't do the phone back and forth like they did in the All Night Long episode- I was thrilled to see that.

Just a note from the previous episode continued here- My lil theory that the 'curriculum' could have been some sort of software program or something (I am going to see it that way :P - probably the only one). This ep she mentioned something about opening many schools for blind/low vision kids. But as I'm typing- thinking/remembering that I think that was more in the line of "wishful thinking" or potential goals for the future not a reality in the 'present time --> day of Rebecca's funeral. This episode...I really thought we'd see more flash forwards like Randall & Beth with new grandson; what happened with the younger generation Big 3 (Only thing is Hailey working at some art gallery); we see more of Jack D in the past 'flashforwards- nothing on Kevin's twins! Overall good episode but WHY in the hell did it end on RANDALL. I mean...I like the guy but the show was This is US not This is ME...would have figured closing scene would be the big 3 even further into the future with their kids grown or something!

Haven't read the rest of the the thread but wanted to get this down... been meaning to since seeing the episode last week (on Hulu); kept forgetting. 1. I liked the episode- the train was interesting; I can see why that was the case because Rebecca (somewhere) said she liked riding trains with her dad so that popped up in her mind. 2. Re Kate and her curriculum... I kind of wonder if the "curriculum" is some sort of software to aid in the teaching of music to blind/low vision kids (and working with Toby lol)- so I can see and understand the California and going international angle. That's my theory and sticking with it (err.. will be putting new thoughts in the last episode thread ...:-O ) 3. LOVED that Toby asked Rebecca if she liked him more than Philip. I still don't care for Philip. I may be misremembering but didn't he at one point say he hated children? (That thought came to me in the episode where he proposed to Kate). 4. Happy to see a bit of Annie in there, poor kid...This Is Us nearly pulled a Chuck Cunningham/Judy Winslow move. I'm sure I'm forgetting something... Oh yes-- the Marcus Brooks subplot- took a bit too much away from the main plot- I spent half the time trying to figure out why they were focusing on Marcus and who the hell he was.

Plus one- for Rebecca's situation being a lot like my late grandmother's. She was fairly quiet, 'vacant' if you will. There were periods of fear & lucidity in what was happening to her- she was aware at times and it broke my heart when she did show that fear. After a major seizure- one thing that happened was that she stopped smoking because well she forgot she did- that's after a 70some year habit along with a faster decline in her mental/physical state. There's more but that's the gist of it. It's like what many have said already- dementia & Alzheimer's manifests in many different ways for everyone. At least one of her 2 children has said that line "That isn't my mother" to me; the same person may still be 'there' but the essence and personality was not the same as before the disease took hold and progressed. So to me that's a believable line coming from Randall and Kevin.

Meant to come here earlier after I saw this episode.... The scene of Jack at the hospital getting stitches kicking & screaming made me remember the same happening to me. No, didn't escape the house to go outside lol. story below- hidden so not to bore people to tears 🙃 Little Jack was adorable and loved the 'teaching moments' with Kate and the song to teach Jack how to navigate (taught him a little too well- he had it memorized quite well!)

Came here wondering if I was the only one not being a fan of Dusty/Ryan (Mainly Dusty- now that I know which one does the howling/hooting/screaming)....10x worse when you have a pair of hearing aids that amplifies sounds- loudly. Ouch. I also think there's quite a bit of KF going on and it's noticeable in all the teams more so with Arun/Natalia. They seem to bicker more than outright fighting each other though.

Reading the posts about manual vs automatic and how hard/easy it is to learn reminds me of my experience learning- Mother and sister taught( or tried to) me- 3 of us went to a local school parking lot (empty must have been a weekend). I did ok driving around but when it was time to leave, I went to stop at the exit before turning onto the street. Stalled out the car...and immediately managed to restart the car in third gear. Both of them said well nope you ain't driving home! Haven't tried to learn since. Would be nice if I could try again though.

I seem to recall they did the same with Ziva's desk when Bishop first arrived... which was Kate's desk when Ziva first arrived...

When did Will/James say this? I know that one of the beard brothers said the same thing... "take take take..." So it's not all on them.

LOL... That's me too. My mother and sister took me to the nearby elementary school (that us kids went to) and taught me how to drive stick shift. I don't remember but I think I did ok in the parking lot...but the next part I remember too well. They told me I could drive them home (not very far)...so as I approached the exit, car's in third gear, I stalled out. Then promptly restarted the car... in third gear. Mother and sister looked at each other... "get out of the car...you ain't driving home" (paraphrased lol). I have not driven stick shift since then. Have had at least 2 friends promise they'd teach me. One never got around to it- the other one lives on the west coast; I'm east coast.

Didn't she ask for permission though before being rebuffed? I didn't hear (or see via closed captions) anyone else ask. As for my thoughts... * Sad to see Frank and Jerry go- they were good guys but yes had a lot of trouble that caused them to get eliminated. One of the very few teams who gracefully accepted that too. Will miss them (and the Olympians- I know a lot of people here didn't care for them but I liked them and had hoped they could overcome the last place deal 😞 ). * Not liking Leo and Alana much. Alana pretty high and mighty but then falls apart when they're U-Turn... which IS part of the race (whether it was a "Stupid" u-turn or not). Not sure how much more I can take of their arrogance regarding their Masters & education. * Will and James.. they're okay but they do need to tone down and step back a bit. Jury still out for me. * Love the NFL guys DeAngelo and Gary. I love how they interact with each other- that's what long term friendship is like- ribbing and teasing.. along with being supportive. * Not feeling it for Michelle/Victoria and Hayley/Kaylyn. Facepalmed when M/V wandered all over creation looking for the clue... not sure how they could have missed it. H/K.. I think their U-Turn was kind of silly/wasted too... "We owe it to Leo and Alana...." Not a real good reason in my book. * Riley/Maddison (aka Beard Bros)... Neither here nor there. Very competent racers so far. (and I have never seen Madison spelled that way... I wonder how many times in his life he's had to spell that out and/or get paperwork with it spelled wrong lol). * Eswar/Arpana the Engineering bro/sis- they're competent- kind of doing the best they can but not really standing out.. yet. I like them though- mostly calm no blowups that I know of... yet. Hmm I'm missing a team... Oh, Hung & Chee. Love them- They're the dark horse in a way- they don't seem particularly strong (physically) but seem to do well in racing if their placements are any indication. They're going to go far. Marketplace was a hot mess- crowded confusing and noisy (I'd have been a quivering mess- apart from the language issue, I wouldn't be able to hear anything anyway), Blow gun was cool but sad to not see the racers themselves do it. I seem to recall in the distant past racers did do a blow gun task? Really curious if there was a Roadblock.. drat.

Park's patient being trapped reminded me of an NCIS: Los Angeles episode that did something nearly the same. Victim was crushed between a wall and a car, move the car guy bleeds out. He wanted to talk to his wife... but his wife lives in another country (I can't remember which at the moment). Kensi managed to finagle a way for him to say his last goodbyes to his family through a satellite connection. Gotta agree with the whole Shaun/Lea thing... I really hope they don't shoehorn it into a romantic relationship. They're better off as friends. Not sure if Vera will be around next season but would be interesting if she was... along with Paul (Vera's ex) lol. Still not a fan of Reznick- completely arrogant and self-absorbed.

Wow... Sad to see Floyd and Becca go 😞 was hoping to see them in the final 3...:(. Still not a big fan of Victor & Nicole. Rooting for either Christie & Colin or Korey & Tyler. Meh on Leo & Jamal.. they're ok... I like them more than I dislike them. Beautiful scenery. Netherlands is one place I'd love to visit one day (I have friends in Netherlands and Belgium). I don't know if I could have done that cow hoisting detour but all I could think was... good thing it wasn't a REAL cow! Tandem bikes! We had one growing up and we took it "down the shore" every summer- Mom and dad sometime rode it when we were there but usually it was Mom in front and one of us kids on the back (yes sometimes we cheated and didn't pedal lol). I wanted to like this 100 times more. This. You can't? After 31 iterations of TAR? I am betting there were far worse episodes of how racers treated the locals, judges or their environment (breaking things, throwing things...). The perception of Becca's comment is mild compared to others. which leads in to this: To me, the tone of her voice had no malice or anger when she said "I'm gonna throw the egg..." and the guy even smiled when she said it. Even though I only have 'residual' hearing (I'm deaf), I'm able tell the difference between the tone of that sentence and "I'm pissed!". Even the captions lol- it did show the ! with I'm pissed. Her face at the inspection station looked more dejected to me than anything else...but humans....everybody will see something different. I felt she was more angry/frustrated/dejected with herself and the team but she did apologize in her way to the guy when they came back. I thought it was a bit extreme that they counted the hairline fracture on the egg- I barely could see it (if at all- probably why they didn't see it with the quick look). As for tossing the eggs over...I would think that would take more time because tossing and actually catching them without breaking them would take a bit more time- seconds seem to matter in this race. Floyd was smart to toss the cheese to the other side though. Someone mentioned why not put hay in the sack to cushion the eggs... I wondered about that unless there was a stipulation they couldn't. I seem to recall usually there's a LOT more text/info on those clue cards than we see or know.

1. "ABsolutely NOT!" Cackled when I saw/heard (captions) Christie say this. Even the captions seemed like it was accentuating the AB and NOT lol. 2. Glad to see the Reilly sisters gone. I felt like Rachel and Elissa were trying to over do things when they went to talk to Leo & Jamal. That just cemented their feelings about them and made them trust them even less. 3. Loved Chris & Brett sauntering close and stretching to hear what they were talking about. That likely influenced their U-Turn vote even more. 4. Speaking of the U-Turn twist, I'm not a fan of it... it feels so Survivor-esque. Rachel certainly went into melt-down mode each of the times she was voted for a U-Turn... but was fine "Oh it's not PERSONAL!" when voting for Christie and Colin. 5. There was a tiiiny bit of old Colin with the cow but nothing more than normal frustration to me. I couldn't tell you who said the "it's bullshit" line or if it was dubbed in or what... but nice to see how Colin and Christie changed. LOL yep... cats seem to like me (I had 2 at one time with a third staying with me for a short time)...dogs I'm fine with but still kind of terrified around big dogs (notably Chow Chows...*shudder*). I was bitten badly by a Chow years ago; have the scars for almost 30 (!!) years now.

For sure. I first "met" Rachel in her first race on TAR (I'm not a BB fan and never will be), and yep I remember her ego being outsized back then too.

OH Lord... the ego is STRONG with this one....

I came here to post that TMZ link but looks like some folks were faster.. and as I noted to my FB group- I knew that half (more than half?) the fans in this forum would NOT be pleased. I'm sure not. Why a "crossover"? They're copying The Walking Dead! oh...wait... <side eye>

No. I'm equally not thrilled that either team won. Out of the 4 people, Scott is the only one (IMHO) who deserves the win.

The 34>134 was Kristi and Jen- they were puzzled because their height was waaay off. Henry and Evan's was 111cm >114cm so they were off by 3. Good two episodes... 1. Not sorry to see Luke and Brittney but sorry about the way they went out. I believe this is the third...no fourth time a team has been eliminated because of a lost passport. After this I hope future TAR racers figure out a way to GLUE their passports to their bodies! 2. Yes Jessica you're useless, no Jessica 99% of the time camels do not have both udders AND testicles (wonder if there are intersex camels...hmm). Yes that was a cold thing to say about karma regarding B&L. No Cody and Jessica I do not like the "well we lost BB so we're here for redemption!". Drives me crazy when teams- notably from TAR and Survivor- do that. 3. I like Evan and Henry, I don't see them as some of y'all are. They seem to work well together. They hardly ever have screaming matches or even get upset about much- especially the U-Turn while Brittney/Luke and I think Jessica/Cody did rant more about it. I don't think Evan treats Henry poorly... if that were the case I think I'd be seeing Henry a little more uptight and tense than he is. 4. Extreme- Kristi/Jen- better this ep though the whole back and forth about the detour was grating... THEN they ended up changing detours ANYWAY (and turns out benefited them)... 5. Indy.. they're okay- competent when they put their minds to it. I'd like to see Yale, Skiers and Indy in final 3. So of course.. BBers will be in it :P.