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I guess, but James also didn't try to play word games over it when confronted. The reason Elizabeth was grilled was because she kept verbally contorting herself to try to get out of admitting that she'd been in the cabin - I was frustrated watching it, so I can only imagine how frustrated Francesca was as she was trying to get a straight answer out of her. Although, that said, I think Francesca was wrong to have that initial conversation in front of everyone rather than privately.

James was reprimanded for that as well.

Wow, Rachel sure changed her tune/attitude once she realized she wasn't going to be able to turn Lee against Francesca. Not that it's going to matter since their season is coming to an abrupt end.

I think she's about to learn the hard way that most people can't get away with that as easily after 30 as they might have before 30. Rachel is so exhausting. It's like she can't function unless she can make a performance out of how aggrieved she is towards someone.

"Keep in touch"? Lol, don't strain yourself there James. I can't believe that someone who has been reprimanded as often in such a short period as Elizabeth has been could be so surprised that she'd get fired. Perhaps what goes around has already come around.

"But my sweet baby shouldn't be responsible just because his aggressive actions provoked an aggressive reaction." - that mother, probably.

Why? Seems pretty clear that Elizabeth doesn't consider being treated like garbage to be an obstacle to getting with him.

Elizabeth is too old to be this dumb when it comes to a fuckboi as obvious as James. Honestly, I'm not sure I would've been able to resist the urge to toss her over the side of the boat after last week's back and forth where she kept trying to talk her way around the "did you sleep in the guest cabin" question despite how visibly frustrated Francesca was getting each time Elizabeth contorted herself to try to get out of just admitting that, yes, it happened.

Does anyone know what the deal is with Robert Newman's month long stint as Kirk Cranston? I'm assuming that something happened with Joseph Bottoms that necessitated a recast, but it seems odd to me to bring in someone like Newman (who I'm assuming was already something of a name in daytime since he'd already had his first stint at GL) just to play out the last 28 episodes of the character's arc.

Few things I love more than when someone who is literally on television claims, while being broadcast on television, that they're a victim of "cancel culture."

I 100% believe that he accidentally killed her while trying to rape her. Dawn's claim is that he came home and said (this is from the transcript CBS posted)"I accidentally hurt her and now she's dead." "Who?" "Tracey." … "What happened?" … "I went over to Carl's to talk to Carl, Carl wasn't there. I talked to Tracey. I tried to talk her into leaving him. She got mad at me. We had a fight. We tussled and I accidentally hurt her and now she's dead." Mmm hmm, really. She entered into a physical fight with you because you suggested that she leave her husband (something a lot of people probably suggested). Right, believable. And while Dawn obviously has issues with the truth, the version that Jeff told to the police (that he and Tracey were having an affair, they got into an argument while in the river because she wanted them to leave their respective spouses for each other, and then she "went down and didn't come back up") is clearly full of lies and the investigator later gets him to admit that he pushed her under the water. And how many years of their children's lives did they actually have their family in tact, given that he spent a few years in prison?

Rachel is the crew's Dolores.

I couldn't help but laugh every time they cut to a shot of the Defendants' dog, looking chilled out AF.

Man, you weren't kidding. I'm now 400 episodes in (which brings me to the end of February 1986) so I'm at the point where Gallego is Santana, Jed Allen is C.C., and Robin Mattson is Gina, and Gallego's Santana is like fingernails on a chalk board for me. It's Brandon this and Brandon that. Even when she's got Cruz - looking fine in his tight little jeans and seeking some help getting over Eden - standing in front of her, it's still "Am I going to get Brandon back now?" I'd be a little more sympathetic were it not for the fact that Brandon clearly loves and is deeply bonded to Gina, but God forbid any of the adults in his life actually base their decisions about him on what would actually make him happy. At this point in the show, there's a lot of marriages/engagements of contrivance happening - Eden marries Kirk so that he won't have to testify against her about her pulling the plug on C.C., Santana is being steered towards marrying Cruz so that C.C. will give her custody of Brandon, Mary accepts Mark's engagement ring because he's in critical condition after an explosion - which is kind of annoying just because of the sheer frequency of it (at this point the only couples who are together because they actually love each other are Brick and Amy and Kelly and old ass Nick and she's cheated on him with Dylan), although I do kind of love Kirk going off the rails after realizing that Eden is still in love with Cruz. Like, dude, you knew that she was in love with Cruz when you talked her into marrying you. You can't be all surprised Pikachu about it when you find out that she's going to keep being in love with him even though you're now her husband. Overall, still really enjoying the show, although I continue to find it somewhat baffling how it has such trouble making new characters stick for longer than 6 months to a year.

But she still has to spend 24 hours a day with Shannon, so is that really living? Anyway, happy for her that she finally got the positive diagnosis she needed so that she could climb up on that cross she'd been polishing since the moment Covid hit the States.

I'm sorry, but how is Michael still involved with the show when a member of the crew is alleging that he touched him sexually without his consent (and there's video)? Doesn't that open Bravo up to lawsuits for creating an unsafe work environment?

I'm curious about the primetime reboot but, in all honesty, without Susan Lucci (and Agnes Nixon behind the scenes in some capacity) I don't think it would really feel like All My Children to me. It would just be another generic prime time soap. Given that Kelly and Mark are the ones behind it, I imagine that the most likely returning faces would be Mateo (pass), Maria (PASS), and Ryan (HARD PASS).

Maybe I missed something, but isn't the situation that she's staying somewhere else because the others are going to party? It doesn't seem like she's insisting that they not party; she's just removing herself from the temptation.

Welp, 2020 just keeps getting worse. I just agreed with something Kelly said (about Braunwyn "performing" her activism for a photographer). I bet Shannon's kids are so happy that she has to isolate in another part of the house. Being locked in with someone as high strung as Shannon would be hell.

Lordy, the only thing more boring than being in lockdown is watching other people in lockdown.

Lol, does Michael actually think that Chris is going to go to jail for pushing him? Juan was twice as rough with him while trying to drag him away. Michael behaves like such a fool, I don't understand how Ashley can stand to be seen in public with him.

Seriously. If you can afford to spend $2 million just in legal fees, then I don't want to hear you complain about money. Elizabeth acknowledged in a previous ep that she already has more than enough money to maintain a lifestyle that includes spending $30k a month just on clothes through the rest of her days, so hearing her whine about having to come up with half a million in cash to pay for the trial made my eye twitch. Why are you even going to trial over this? After a certain point the difference between X amount of wealth and Y amount of wealth is negligible. Just walk away and save yourself the stress and legal fees. You'll be fine.

None of them is a management degree, I guess.

I sincerely hope that if those kids try to, like, reverse Parent Trap their parents, that it ends up on the show. They could not be less enthusiastic about this relationship.

Here's what gets me about Elizabeth's "Big Pharma" thing (aside from the Covid is a hoax nonsense): As Elizabeth never ceases to remind us, she's part of the 1%, so even if none of that money she's throwing around is rooted in shareholdings in a pharmaceutical company or two, there is an approximately 0% chance that no portion of her wealth is rooted in shareholdings in an industry (or industries) that profiteers off of tragedy and disaster and exploits people's fears and bad circumstances. Being able to capitalize on shit like that is how people get rich and then get richer. So for her to be like, "You can't believe what they say, they're just trying to make money off of you, you gotta watch out for them" is a touch hypocritical because she's one of them whether she realizes it or not. Dollars to donuts she's someone who is wealthier now than they were pre-pandemic.